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 ====== Vehicle Identification ======
 ===== Frame Numbers =====
 There was no frame identification for purpose of ownership on 1957-1969 model Sportsters. \\
 However, there were stampings on the different parts of the frame combined with certain features that can be used to date the frame. \\ [[techtalk:ih:body01w|Click Here]] to view Ironhead Frame Identification in the Sportsterpedia. \\
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 ====== Related Manuals and Documentation ======
-See the Navigation menu on the upper left of this page. \\
-From there you can go to the main Ironhead section menu, the Reference section for general and in-depth procedures, and the Misc Resources for documentation. \\
 Below are some suggestions for manuals for your ride. \\
-You should have, at minimum, a Factory Service Manual (FSM) and a Factory Parts Catalog for your year model. \\
+__You should have, at minimum, a Factory Service Manual (FSM) and a Factory Parts Catalog for your year model__. \\
+**Factory Service Manuals (FSM)**; \\
 The FSM will have the most accurate information, procedures and specs. \\
 Clymer and Haynes make service manuals also for Sportsters but some of the information is in error to the factory FSMs. \\
 And some of the information in the aftermarket manuals is vague in information or procedures but they may have more pictures. \\
 So it is generally said you can get use from both an aftermarket manual and the factory service manuals but get the factory manual first. \\
+[[techtalk:miscres:miscres10|Click Here]] to view the Factory Service Manual page in the Sportsterpedia. \\
+**Parts Catalogs**; \\
 The Parts Catalog has part numbers of course but it also has exploded parts views. \\
 However, IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE AN ASSEMBLY MANUAL. \\
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 But, all in all, the exploded views do help finding what goes where. \\
 Most of the fasteners listed in the relevant parts catalog individual pages have thread sizes and lengths also in case you need those. \\
+**Note: ALL 1957-1978 PARTS CATALOGS LIST PARTS FOR PREVIOUS YEARS**. \\ Below is a simple list of original and "latest edition parts catalogs.
+The in-between year books may show different part numbers for the same year model bike. \\
 [[techtalk:miscres:miscres12|Click Here]] to see the Factory Parts Catalog page in the Sportsterpedia for parts catalog uses and a full list of parts catalog numbers from 1957 to present. \\
+(complete list of other parts catalogs and supplement catalogs that pertain to each year model on the bottom of that page) \\
 Some often acquire several year model parts catalogs and that page will help you decide which ones are right for you. \\
-[[techtalk:ref:tools803|Click Here]] for the HD List of Ironhead Sportster Hardware P/N & Descriptions page in the Sportsterpedia. \\
 **Suggested Manuals**: \\
   * **Factory Service Manual (FSM)**:
-    * **Original**: 1959-1964 Sportster Service Manual (99484-64)
+    * **Original**: 1964 Sportster Service Manual (99484-64) in a loose leaf binder
-    * **Latest Update**: 1959-1969 Sportster Service Manual (99484-69)
+    * **Latest Edition**: 1959-1969 Sportster Service Manual (99484-69) in book bound form
   * **Factory Parts Catalogs**:
     * **Original**: 1964 Sportster/KH Model Parts Catalog Supplement (99451-64)
-      * Issued October, 1963.  Updates the 1953-1963 full parts catalog for Sportster / KH Models (99451-63). \\ Lists closest to original parts available for 1964 models.
+      * Issued October, 1963.
-    * **Updated**: 1955-1965 Sportster/KH Model Parts Catalog (99451-65)
+      * Updates the 1953-1963 full parts catalog for Sportster / KH Models (99451-63).
-      * Issued July, 1964.  Full parts catalog and lists parts available in 1965 for 1955-1965 models.
+      * Lists closest to original parts available for 1964 models and updates changes (only) to the previous full catalog.
-    * **Updated**: 1957-1967 Sportster/KH Model Parts Catalog (99451-67)
+      * [[https://www.harleykmodel.com/literature/spare-parts-catalogs/documents/99451-64/99451-64.pdf|Click Here]] to download a PDF from Harley K Model site (989kb)((https://www.harleykmodel.com/literature/spare-parts-catalogs/documents/99451-64/99451-64.pdf))
-      * Issued September, 1966.  Full parts catalog and lists parts available in 1967 for 1954-1967 models.
+        * **Use With**: 1953-1963 Sportster/KH Model Parts Catalog (99451-63) \\ Issued November 15, 1962. Full parts catalog and lists parts available in 1963 for 1953-1963 models. \\ [[https://www.harleykmodel.com/literature/spare-parts-catalogs/documents/99451-63/99451-63.pdf|Click Here]] to download a PDF from Harley K Model site (50.2mb) ((https://www.harleykmodel.com/literature/spare-parts-catalogs/documents/99451-63/99451-63.pdf))
-    * **Updated**: 1954-1976 XLH/XLCH-1000 Parts Catalog (99451-76A).
+    * **Latest Edition**: 1954-1978 Sportster XLH/XLCH-1000 Parts Catalog (99451-78B)
-      * Issued May, 1976. Full catalog and lists parts available in 1976 for 1954-1978 models.
+      * Issued in 1989.
-    * **Latest Update**: 1954-1978 Sportster XLH/XLCH-1000 Parts Catalog (99451-78B)
+      * Full catalog and lists parts available in 1989 for 1954-1978 models.
-      * Issued in 1989. Full catalog and lists parts available in 1989 for 1954-1978 models. \\ Includes some parts that were not available in the -78A catalog.
+      * Includes some parts that were not available in the -78A catalog.
-    * **Other**: Reference the "Parts Catalog" page in the Sportsterpedia for a listing of other parts catalogs that pertain to your year model.
+  * **Factory Owners Manuals**:
+    * 1964 Sportster Rider Handbook (99466-64)
+    * 1964 Sportster XLCH Rider Handbook Supplement (99467-64) \\ Use for all XLCH changes. For any info not in this book, refer to the 99466-64 handbook.
 **Pics of Manual Covers**. \\
-Below are pics of used manual covers related to 1964 model Sportsters. \\
+Below are pics of used manual covers (original and latest editions) related to 1964 model Sportsters. \\
+See the full list of pertinent catalogs in the link above.  \\
 Click on any pic below to enlarge: \\
-|  1959-1964 FSM (99484-64) \\ loose leaf (obsoleted)  |  1959-1969 FSM (99484-69)  |
+|  1964 Rider Handbook \\ (44966-64)  |  1964 Rider Handbook \\ (44967-64) (supplement)  |
-|{{:sportster_history:l001-fsm-1964_edition_cover_99484-64_for_1957-1964_loose_leaf_inside.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{sportster_history:l001-fsm-1969_edition_cover_99484-69_for_1957-1969_book_bound.jpg?direct&200|}}|
+|{{:sportster_history:l003-om-1964_edition_cover_99466-64.jpg?direct&150|}}|{{:sportster_history:l003-om-1964_edition_cover_99467-64_supplement.jpg?direct&150|}}|
-|  1964 Parts \\ Catalog Supplement (99451-64)  |  1955-1965 \\ Parts Catalog (99451-65)  |  1957-1967 \\ Parts Catalog (99451-67)  |  1954-1978 \\ Parts Catalog (99451-78B)  |
+|  1959-1964 FSM (99484-64) ((pics from a collection by The French Owl of the XLFORUM)) \\ loose leaf outside and inside covers (original)  ||  1959-1969 FSM (99484-69) \\ (latest)  |
-|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1964_edition_cover_99451-64_supplement.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1965_edition_cover_99451-65_for_1955-1965.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{sportster_history:l002-pc-1967_edition_cover_99451-67_for_1957-1967.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1978_edition_cover_99451-78b_for_1954-1978.jpg?direct&200|}}|
+|{{:sportster_history:l001-fsm-1959_edition_cover_1st_for_1957-1964_loose_leaf_binders.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l001-fsm-1964_edition_cover_99484-64_for_1957-1964_loose_leaf_inside.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{sportster_history:l001-fsm-1969_edition_cover_99484-69_for_1957-1969_book_bound.jpg?direct&200|}}|
+|  1953-1963 \\ Parts Catalog (99451-63)  |  1964 Parts \\ Catalog Supplement (99451-64)  |  1954-1978 \\ Parts Catalog (99451-78B)  |
+|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1963_edition_cover_99451-63_for_1953-1963.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1964_edition_cover_99451-64_supplement.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1978_edition_cover_99451-78b_for_1954-1978.jpg?direct&200|}}|
 ===== The Ironhead Multi-Year Parts Catalog Curse =====
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   * The MoCo knew about and tried to correct at least some of the parts catalog mistakes.
-===== Misc Resources in the Sportsterpedia =====
+===== Search the Sportsterpedia =====
-There are links to many factory service bulletins, parts and accessory bulletins plus information on part numbers and casting numbers in the Sportsterpedia. \\
+See the Navigation menu on the upper left of this page. \\
-[[techtalk:menu#misc_resources|Click Here]] for the Misc Resource section for more information. \\
+From there you can go to the main Ironhead section menu, the Reference section for general and in-depth procedures, and the Misc Resources for documentation. \\
 ===== Illustrations =====
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 {{:sportster_history:1964_xlch883_illust_right_side_edited.png?direct&400|}} {{:sportster_history:1964_xlh883_illust_right_side_edited.png?direct&400|}} \\
+\\
+General dimension drawing for 1957-1965 XLH / XLCH frames: \\
+This is a "short frame". Dims shown are 1957-1966 (all) and 1967-1969 XLCH. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/148782-animal-mother-reigns/page4?postcount=58#post3178758)) \\
-{{:sportster_history:1964_xlh883_illust_engine_left_side.png?direct&400|}}
+{{:sportster_history:illust_-_frame_dims_-_general_-_1957-1965_xlh_xlch_the_french_owl.png?direct&400|}} ((illustration from a collection by The French Owl of the XLFORUM)) \\
-{{:sportster_history:1964_xlh883_illust_engine_right_side.png?direct&400|}} \\
 ====== Specifications ======
 [[techtalk:menu#ironhead_technical_categories|Click Here]] for the main technical menu in the Sportsterpedia. \\
 Also see the "Misc Resources" section on the bottom of that page for technical docs and information. \\
 ==== Model Designations ====
   * XLH, XLCH
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 |{{sportster_history:1964_xlch883_by_magneto_sportster.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|    1964 XLCH ((1964 XLCH pic courtesy of the owner,Magneto Sportster, of the XLFORUM ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2012146&page=2))   |
+|    1964 XLCH ((1964 XLCH pic courtesy of the owner,Magneto Sportster, of the XLFORUM ((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/189006-nice-original-64-xlch-on-ebay/page2?t=2012146&page=2))   |
-===== External Links =====
-[[https://www.harleykmodel.com/literature/spare-parts-catalogs/documents/99451-64/99451-64.pdf|1964 Parts Manual]] (989kb)((https://www.harleykmodel.com/literature/spare-parts-catalogs/documents/99451-64/99451-64.pdf))
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