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--- sportster_history:1985_sportster [2021/09/20 01:13]
hippysmack [The Ironhead Multi-Year Parts Catalog Curse]
+++ sportster_history:1985_sportster [2021/09/27 06:20]
hippysmack [Related Manuals and Documentation]
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   * **Factory Service Manual (FSM)**:
-    * 1979-1985 XL/XR Models 1000cc 4-Speed Service Manual (99484-85)
+    * **Original** (and latest edition): 1979-1985 XL/XR Models 1000cc 4-Speed Service Manual (99484-85)
-  * **Factory Parts Catalogs**:
+  * **Factory Parts Catalogs**: \\ **Note**: ALL 1980-1985 PARTS CATALOGS LIST PARTS FOR PREVIOUS YEARS. \\ Below is a simple list of original and "latest edition parts catalogs. \\ The in-between year books may show different part numbers for the same year model bike. \\ [[techtalk:miscres:miscres12#sportster_and_k_model_parts_catalogs_by_year_and_date_of_publication|Click Here]] **to reference the chart of "Sportster and K Model Parts Catalogs by Year and Date of Publication" in the Sportsterpedia** \\ (complete list of other parts catalogs and supplement catalogs that pertain to each year model)
-    * **Original**: 1979-1985 XL Models Parts Catalog (99451-85) \\ Written in 1984 and should have the closest list of original parts for 1985 models.
+    * **Original**: 1979-1985 XL Models Parts Catalog (99451-85)
-    * **Updated**: 1979-1985 XL Models Parts Catalog (99451-85A) \\ Written in 1990 and lists parts available in 1990 for 1985 models. \\
+      * Written in 1984 and should have the closest list of original parts for 1985 models.
+    * **Latest Edition**: 1979-1985 XL Models Parts Catalog (99451-85A)
+      * Written in 1990 and lists parts available in 1990 for 1979-1985 models.
   * **Factory Owners Manual**:
     * 1985 XL Models 1000cc Owners Manual (99466-85) \\ [[https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/search/view-result?id=6414&terms=1985+owners+manual&options.inTitle=true&options.inDescription=true&options.inContent=true|Click Here]] to download this manual PDF (English) from the H-D Service Information Portal. \\ [[https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/content/document/view?id=6416&parameters=highlight%3D1985%2Bowners%2Bmanual&options.inTitle=true&options.inDescription=true&terms=1985+owners+manual&options.inContent=true|Click Here]] to download this manual PDF (Eg/Fr/Gr/Sp) from the H-D Service Information Portal.
 **Pics of Manual Covers**. \\
-Below are pics of used manual covers related to 1985 model Sportsters. \\
+Below are pics of used manual covers (original and latest editions) related to 1985 model Sportsters. \\
+See the full list of pertinent catalogs in the link above.  \\
 Click on any pic below to enlarge: \\
-|  1979-1985 FSM (99451-85)  |  1979-1985 Parts Catalog (99451-85)  |  1979-1985 Parts Catalog (99451-85A)  | 1985 Owners Manual (99466-85)  |
+|  1979-1985 FSM (99484-85)  | 1985 Owners Manual (99466-85)  |
-|{{:sportster_history:l001-fsm-1985_edition_cover_for_1979-1985.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1985_edition_cover_99451-85_for_1979-1985.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1985_edition_cover_99451-85a_for_1979-1985.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l003-om-1985_edition_cover_99466-85_for_1957-1969.jpg?direct&200|}}|
+|{{sportster_history:l001-fsm-1985_edition_cover_99484-85_for_1979-1985.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l003-om-1985_edition_cover_99466-85.jpg?direct&200|}}|
+|  1979-1985 \\ Parts Catalog (99451-85)  |  1979-1985 \\ Parts Catalog (99451-85A)  |
+|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1985_edition_cover_99451-85_for_1979-1985.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:sportster_history:l002-pc-1985_edition_cover_99451-85a_for_1979-1985.jpg?direct&200|}}|
 ===== The Ironhead Multi-Year Parts Catalog Curse =====
-The parts catalogs can be a lifesaver in many situations as mentioned above. \\
-They can also drive you mad at times due to the many errors and discrepancies in them largely due to the compounding amount if information they contain. \\
-Most Ironhead parts catalogs are multi-year catalogs (many year spans of Sportster models in the same book). \\
-There were many model and parts changes, company turmoil's and policies from the beginning Sportster years thru the end of the Ironhead era. \\
-One can only imagine what it took to keep up with the all of the new HD models and changes for one year (especially before the digital revolution). \\
-We're talking typewriters, pencils and erasers, drawings made by hand or on drafting tables (T-squares and straight edges) in the early days. \\
-And at the same time having accurate "current production parts" information for all previous HD models down to the early 1950s. \\
-All of the new information went into the next year catalogs. \\
-(including what parts in production "today" will fit all of their HD models from 5, 10, 15 years ago depending on the year in question) \\
-Whatever the exact reasons were, the end result was confusion placed on the end user trying to decide what parts go on their specific year model Sportster. \\
-(obviously it wasn't grins and giggles for the dealerships deciphering the parts catalogs on their end also) \\
 Below is a summary of an article on the Sportsterpedia Parts Catalogs page regarding parts book errors. \\
 You can also read the full article from this link: [[techtalk:miscres:miscres12#the_ironhead_multi-year_parts_catalog_curse|The Ironhead Multi-Year Parts Catalog Curse]]. \\
+Due to all of the errors and non corrected editions, it's always a good idea to acquire several year parts catalogs surrounding your year model. \\
+Which year catalogs you'll need will depend on many factors but the main Parts Catalog page in the Sportsterpedia will help you decide which ones you need. \\
+[[techtalk:miscres:miscres12|Click Here]] to see the Parts Catalog page. A full chart of all the parts catalogs made for Ironheads is at the bottom of the page. \\
   * Not all multi-year catalogs will list factory installed parts on your bike.
   * You may need several year catalogs to determine factory installed parts for your year model.
   * Some parts first appeared or only appeared in Parts Supplements, Service Bulletins or other literature
+  * Later catalogs may show parts for older models that were never factory installed on them.
+  * Some catalogs have missing parts and/or missing models in some parts listings.
   * Some illustrations do not have a part number listed.
   * Drawings may or may not look like your part number.
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   * There may be misleading information about parts that fit your year model.
   * Fastener lengths and thread pitch may change depending on catalog used.
+  * The MoCo knew about and tried to correct at least some of the parts catalog mistakes.
+===== Misc Resources in the Sportsterpedia =====
+There are links to many factory service bulletins, parts and accessory bulletins plus information on part numbers and casting numbers in the Sportsterpedia. \\
+[[techtalk:menu#misc_resources|Click Here]] for the Misc Resource section for more information. \\
+===== Illustrations =====
-====== Illustrations ======
 The following illustrations are displayed for historic and period specific parts identification only. Refer to the original OEM documents for additional information. ((illustrations from various academic journals)) \\
 Click on any illustration below to enlarge. \\
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 ====== Models ======
-====== XLH 1100 ======
+===== XLH 1100 =====
 What is the Current KBB Value?  ((http://www.kbb.com/motorcycles/harley-davidson/xlh-sportster-1000/1985-harley-davidson-xlh-sportster-1000/trade-in/))
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   *
-====== XLS 1100 Roadster ======
+===== XLS 1100 Roadster =====
 What is the Current KBB Value?  ((http://www.kbb.com/motorcycles/harley-davidson/xls-roadster-1000/1985-harley-davidson-xls-roadster-1000/trade-in/))
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-===== Engine =====
+==== Engine ====
 XLS (( photos by iNSaNeSHaNe of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=72&t=1750617 )) \\
 {{sportster_history:1985_xls1000_pic_02_by_insaneshane.jpg?direct&300|}} {{sportster_history:1985_xls1000_pic_01_by_insaneshane.jpg?direct&300|}}
-====== XLX 1100 - 61 ======
+===== XLX 1100 - 61 =====
 What is the Current KBB Value?  ((http://www.kbb.com/motorcycles/harley-davidson/xlx-61/1985-harley-davidson-xlx-61/trade-in/))

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