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--- techtalk:evo:engmech02a [2018/08/19 19:53]
hippysmack [Installing Evo Cams]
+++ techtalk:evo:engmech02a [2020/08/27 18:08]
hippysmack [The Exact Position of the Timing Marks May Have To Be Interpreted]
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 {{:techtalk:evo:engmech:gearcase_cam_location_by_phillober.jpg?direct&400|}} Cam hole identification in the gearcase: ((photo by Phillober, annotated by Hippysmack of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1122547&page=6)) \\
-==== Cam Identification ====
+==== Cam Timing Mark Identification ====
 **Note**: If your cams have “V” markings on them, disregard those markings. The “V” markings on the cams are not used for timing Sportsters. ((Turbota of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26379)) {{:techtalk:evo:engmech:cam_markings_by_bsaman.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by bsaman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=693559&page=2)) {{:techtalk:evo:engmech:cam_timing_by_austinxl.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by AustinXL of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1701132))
+Here's a Buell XB using the 'V' timing marks on the cams. ((photo by soulhamster of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1321505&page=3)) \\
+{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:buell_v_mark_on_cams_by_soulhamster.jpg?direct&500|}}
 ==== Working Around the Lifters If Installed ====
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 |**#1** cam dot faces the center of the #2 cam bore|**#3** has two dots. Each dot faces toward the center \\ of the two adjacent cam bores (#2 and #4 respectively). \\ The dots won't line up correctly installed upside down.|
 |{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:installing_evo_cams_5_by_phillober.jpg?direct&400|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:installing_evo_cams_6_by_phillober.jpg?direct&400|}}|
+| 86-90 cam alignment ((photo by iwntobliku of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50047))|
+|{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:89_cams_lined_up_by_iwntobliku.jpg?direct&400|}}|
   * #4 cam can be installed at any time after #3 is in place and it's the least of the worries of installing incorrectly (outside of checking that the cam number is correct).
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     - Cam #2 to cam #1.
     - Cam #2 to cam #3.
+**Another consideration**:
+The position of the mark on the pinion gear to line up #2 cam is straight across from the slot in the back of the gear. \\
+This slot can be widened with wear and not line up perfectly with the keyway on the pinion shaft. \\
+The key is actually what #2 cam should line up with. \\
+So if the pinion gear is off a little from the woodruff key location, the cams can appear not to line up perfectly together (even though they are). \\
+So while lining up the pinion gear and #2 cam, there may be a fudge factor there also to consider when the dots aren't lined up perfectly. \\
+You can see that the pinion gear is installed to the right of the center of the slot in the third pic below. \\
+{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:pinion_gear_keyway_clearance_by_grind_-_labeled_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ~Grind~ of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1448694)) \\
+|  Be in mind of the woodruff key location in the pinion gear slot. ((photos by ~Grind~ of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1448694))  |||
+|{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:pinion_gear_alignment_on_woodruff_key_1_by_grind.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:pinion_gear_alignment_on_woodruff_key_2_by_grind.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:pinion_gear_alignment_on_woodruff_key_3_by_grind.jpg?direct&300|}}|
 ===== Before Installing the Cam Cover =====
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+|Some like more than others but the more lube, the better. \\ Just be sure not to put thick lube in the pinion shaft hole and block the oil path. ((photo by chris_b_owens of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1843303&page=4))||
+|{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:cam_gears_installed_1_by_chris_b_owens.jpg?direct&400|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:engmech:cam_gears_installed_2_by_chris_b_owens.jpg?direct&400|}}|
 ===== Damage Pics From Incorrect Cam Timing =====
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 ===== Some useful links on cam installation =====
   * [[http://www.hammerperf.com/ttxlcaminstall.shtml|Installing XL Cams]] from Hammer Performance. AKA, more than you ever wanted to know about installing cams in an XL. (aswracing)
   * [[http://www.nrhsperformance.com/tech_xlcaminstall.shtml|XL Camshaft Installation]] from NRHS Performance
+  * [[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=171329&highlight=wanted+cams|XLFORUM thread on cam specs]].

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