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techtalk:evo:engmech09 [2019/11/30 16:52]
hippysmack [Worn / Rusty Pivot Shaft]
techtalk:evo:engmech09 [2020/08/20 02:38]
ixl2relax [Replacement Rubber Options]
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-====== EVO: Suspension ​======+====== EVO: Engine Mechanical ​======
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   * OEM mounts: \\ If you don't want more vibration, use the H-D mounts, but plan on replacing much more often. ((Nytstr http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1526368&​highlight=motor+mounts&​page=8)) \\ They seem to be soft and to not last. There may be a lot of sportsters with softened or sagging mounts that need replacement. ((04xl1200c http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1526368&​highlight=motor+mounts&​page=7))   * OEM mounts: \\ If you don't want more vibration, use the H-D mounts, but plan on replacing much more often. ((Nytstr http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1526368&​highlight=motor+mounts&​page=8)) \\ They seem to be soft and to not last. There may be a lot of sportsters with softened or sagging mounts that need replacement. ((04xl1200c http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1526368&​highlight=motor+mounts&​page=7))
 +    * Front Motor Mount Isolator (2 each required): Harley-Davidson 48463-04A
 +    * Rear Motor Mount Isolator (2 each required): Harley-Davidson 48492-04A
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   * Drag Specialty mounts: \\ The part numbers are 14-0553 and 14-0554 for front and rear. Order 2 of each as they are single packaged. \\ The DS mounts seem to be slightly stiffer than the HD mounts. \\ Some extra vibes have been reported using the poly mounts under 2K. ((Rico 05R http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1526368&​highlight=motor+mounts&​page=12)) \\ Handling is also reportedly improved over the OEM mounts.   * Drag Specialty mounts: \\ The part numbers are 14-0553 and 14-0554 for front and rear. Order 2 of each as they are single packaged. \\ The DS mounts seem to be slightly stiffer than the HD mounts. \\ Some extra vibes have been reported using the poly mounts under 2K. ((Rico 05R http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1526368&​highlight=motor+mounts&​page=12)) \\ Handling is also reportedly improved over the OEM mounts.
 +    * Front Motor Mount Isolator (2 each required): Dennis Kirk 14-0553 -is- Drag Specialties 0933-0054
 +    * Rear Motor Mount Isolator (2 each required): Dennis Kird 14-0554 -is- Drag Specialties 0933-0055
  
   * Vance & Hines mounts: \\ Sold and made by Vance & Hines. \\ They will require you to sign a release where you agree they are for racing only, and V&H isn't liable if bad things happen. \\ From XLForum member, Nytstr: ((http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=27701&​page=30)) \\ The bike corners like it's on rails, and the wallowing, suspension taking a '​set'​ is totally gone. It's like a new bike entirely. \\ There is increased vibration, as one would expect. But so far it is not real bad, just a buzz in the seat mainly, and certainly livable for me. \\    * Vance & Hines mounts: \\ Sold and made by Vance & Hines. \\ They will require you to sign a release where you agree they are for racing only, and V&H isn't liable if bad things happen. \\ From XLForum member, Nytstr: ((http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=27701&​page=30)) \\ The bike corners like it's on rails, and the wallowing, suspension taking a '​set'​ is totally gone. It's like a new bike entirely. \\ There is increased vibration, as one would expect. But so far it is not real bad, just a buzz in the seat mainly, and certainly livable for me. \\ 
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 The isolators are not holding the screws in. They are just against them (shouldn'​t be much pressure if any against the screws). \\ The isolators are not holding the screws in. They are just against them (shouldn'​t be much pressure if any against the screws). \\
 Most likely, only with severe deflection of that pivot pin would pressure be placed on the plate and shear the bolts. \\ Most likely, only with severe deflection of that pivot pin would pressure be placed on the plate and shear the bolts. \\
 +You can drill the center of the screw with a small drill bit and try and Easy-Out to remove it. \\
  
 |  Loose / broken lock plate screws. ((photo by Nytstr of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1313091)) ​ |  The screws are hidden from the outside. ((photos by Cosmo Kramer of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1313091&​page=2)) ​ || |  Loose / broken lock plate screws. ((photo by Nytstr of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1313091)) ​ |  The screws are hidden from the outside. ((photos by Cosmo Kramer of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1313091&​page=2)) ​ ||
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 +|  Screw removal with Easy-Out. ((photos by LuxBlue of the XLFORUM)) ​ |||
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 ==== Worn / Rusty Pivot Shaft ==== ==== Worn / Rusty Pivot Shaft ====
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-|  Rear isolator locating tabs in place. ((photos by 04xl1200c of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1701136&​page=11)) ​ ||+|  Rear isolator locating tabs. ((photos by 04xl1200c of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1701136&​page=11)) ​ ||
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 ==== Pivot Shaft Pics ==== ==== Pivot Shaft Pics ====
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 On the shoulder of the shaft there are two "​flat"​ spots 180° from each other. The retainer plate has two small tabs that fit into the flat spots. \\ On the shoulder of the shaft there are two "​flat"​ spots 180° from each other. The retainer plate has two small tabs that fit into the flat spots. \\
 The shaft can still rotate a small amount until the shoulder on the shaft comes into contact with the tab. \\ The shaft can still rotate a small amount until the shoulder on the shaft comes into contact with the tab. \\
-The backing plate has two tabs that engage those flat spots on the pivot shaft. \\+The backing plate has two tabs that engage those flat spots on the pivot shaft and that connection locks the shaft from rotating once installed. \\
  
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