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| 86-90 Oil Pump Oiling Paths. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | 91-97 Oil Pump Oiling Paths ((photo by Hippysmack)) | 98 and Up Oil Pump Oiling Paths ((photo by bsaman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/87615-crank-replacement-documentation/page2?t=691283&page=2)) | | | 86-90 Oil Pump Oiling Paths. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | 91-97 Oil Pump Oiling Paths ((photo by Hippysmack)) | 98 and Up Oil Pump Oiling Paths ((photo by bsaman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/87615-crank-replacement-documentation/page2?t=691283&page=2)) | | ||
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+ | ====== Oil Pump - Complete Unit Part Numbers ====== | ||
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+ | **1986-1990 Models - XL P/N = 26204-86**\\ | ||
+ | - pump body catalog p/n 26484-86\\ | ||
+ | - pump body casting p/n 26485-\\ | ||
+ | ... casting p/n is in return cavity\\ | ||
+ | ... also has a "2" stamped next to casting #\\ | ||
+ | ... also has a "T" stamped into opposite return cavity\\ | ||
+ | - bottom cover catalog p/n 26486-86\\ | ||
+ | - bottom cover casting p/n 26487-86\\ | ||
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+ | **1991-1996 Models - XL P/N = 26204-91**\\ | ||
+ | - pump body casting p/n in 26485-90 \\ | ||
+ | ... casting p/n is in the return cavity\\ | ||
+ | ... also has casting #s 1 and 380 in opposite return cavity\\ | ||
+ | - pump cover casting p/n 26487-90\\ | ||
+ | ... casting p/n is on the outside of the cover\\ | ||
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+ | **1997 Models - XL P/N = 26204-91**\\ | ||
+ | - pump body casting p/n in 26485-90A \\ | ||
+ | ... casting p/n is in the return cavity\\ | ||
+ | - pump cover casting p/n 26487-90A\\ | ||
+ | ... casting p/n is on the outside of the cover\\ | ||
+ | |||
+ | **1998-1999 Models - XL P/N = 26204-98**\\ | ||
+ | - From the internal P/N changes it appears that this new\\ | ||
+ | ... P/N was generated because of a change in the\\ | ||
+ | ... Gear Shaft and Gerotor Return set of gears\\ | ||
+ | - has body casting P/N 26487-98 in the return cavity\\ | ||
+ | - has bottom cover casting P/N 26487-98 on the outside\\ | ||
+ | |||
+ | **2000-2006 Models - XL P/N = 26204-91A**\\ | ||
+ | - P/N change appears to be related to fitting changes \\ | ||
+ | … feed inlet and outlet have -A suffix but no change in fitting size \\ | ||
+ | - has bottom cover casting P/N 26487-98\\ | ||
+ | |||
+ | **2007-later Models - XL P/N = 26204-91A (new design)**\\ | ||
+ | - **is a different design w/same P/N** (How crazy is that?)\\ | ||
+ | - is retrofitable to 1991-2006\\ | ||
+ | - has body casting P/N 26211-07 in the return cavity\\ | ||
+ | - has bottom cover casting P/N 26213-07 on the outside\\ | ||
+ | |||
+ | **Buell P/N - 26357-02B**\\ | ||
+ | - same pump as XL 26204-91A (new design) but with different fittings\\ | ||
+ | - will bolt up but you need to change the fittings over to XL style\\ | ||
+ | - has bottom cover casting P/N 26213-07\\ | ||
+ | |||
+ | **Buell P/N - 26357-02**\\ | ||
+ | - Same pump as 1998-1999 XL 26204-98 but with different fittings \\ | ||
+ | … same gerotors, same cover casting number \\ | ||
+ | |||
+ | See these XLForum threads:\\ | ||
+ | https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/43858-evo-sportster-engine-oil-pump-up-date?t=135265\\ | ||
+ | https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/161897-which-oil-pump-buell-26357-02b-or-xl-2007-26204-91a?t=1738158 | ||
====== Oil Pump Function ====== | ====== Oil Pump Function ====== | ||
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This is why pressure is always highest on cold startup and pressure falls as the oil heats up. \\ | This is why pressure is always highest on cold startup and pressure falls as the oil heats up. \\ | ||
Colder oil is thicker and more resistant to flow. Hotter oil is thinner less resistant to flow. \\ | Colder oil is thicker and more resistant to flow. Hotter oil is thinner less resistant to flow. \\ | ||
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====== Priming the Oil Pump ====== | ====== Priming the Oil Pump ====== | ||
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* Another way to prime the pump is to use assembly lube on the gerotors and inside of the pump before installing it. ((aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/163867-cam-cover-removal#post3491821)) \\ Then you have an instant hydraulic seal to help the oil pump suck oil from the hose. | * Another way to prime the pump is to use assembly lube on the gerotors and inside of the pump before installing it. ((aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/163867-cam-cover-removal#post3491821)) \\ Then you have an instant hydraulic seal to help the oil pump suck oil from the hose. | ||
* You can also using a large syringe with a tapered tip inserted into the oil supply hose on the bottom of the oil tank. ((ericfreeman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/196980-vapor-lock-on-77-and-later-oil-pumps#post4303198)) \\ Then you can force feed oil to the pump and on to the engine using this technique. \\ | * You can also using a large syringe with a tapered tip inserted into the oil supply hose on the bottom of the oil tank. ((ericfreeman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/196980-vapor-lock-on-77-and-later-oil-pumps#post4303198)) \\ Then you can force feed oil to the pump and on to the engine using this technique. \\ | ||
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- | ====== Oil Pump - Complete Unit Part Numbers ====== | ||
- | |||
- | **1986-1990 Models - XL P/N = 26204-86**\\ | ||
- | - pump body catalog p/n 26484-86\\ | ||
- | - pump body casting p/n 26485-\\ | ||
- | ... casting p/n is in return cavity\\ | ||
- | ... also has a "2" stamped next to casting #\\ | ||
- | ... also has a "T" stamped into opposite return cavity\\ | ||
- | - bottom cover catalog p/n 26486-86\\ | ||
- | - bottom cover casting p/n 26487-86\\ | ||
- | |||
- | **1991-1996 Models - XL P/N = 26204-91**\\ | ||
- | - pump body casting p/n in 26485-90 \\ | ||
- | ... casting p/n is in the return cavity\\ | ||
- | ... also has casting #s 1 and 380 in opposite return cavity\\ | ||
- | - pump cover casting p/n 26487-90\\ | ||
- | ... casting p/n is on the outside of the cover\\ | ||
- | |||
- | **1997 Models - XL P/N = 26204-91**\\ | ||
- | - pump body casting p/n in 26485-90A \\ | ||
- | ... casting p/n is in the return cavity\\ | ||
- | - pump cover casting p/n 26487-90A\\ | ||
- | ... casting p/n is on the outside of the cover\\ | ||
- | |||
- | **1998-1999 Models - XL P/N = 26204-98**\\ | ||
- | - From the internal P/N changes it appears that this new\\ | ||
- | ... P/N was generated because of a change in the\\ | ||
- | ... Gear Shaft and Gerotor Return set of gears\\ | ||
- | - has body casting P/N 26487-98 in the return cavity\\ | ||
- | - has bottom cover casting P/N 26487-98 on the outside\\ | ||
- | |||
- | **2000-2006 Models - XL P/N = 26204-91A**\\ | ||
- | - P/N change appears to be related to fitting changes \\ | ||
- | … feed inlet and outlet have -A suffix but no change in fitting size \\ | ||
- | - has bottom cover casting P/N 26487-98\\ | ||
- | |||
- | **2007-later Models - XL P/N = 26204-91A (new design)**\\ | ||
- | - **is a different design w/same P/N** (How crazy is that?)\\ | ||
- | - is retrofitable to 1991-2006\\ | ||
- | - has body casting P/N 26211-07 in the return cavity\\ | ||
- | - has bottom cover casting P/N 26213-07 on the outside\\ | ||
- | |||
- | **Buell P/N - 26357-02B**\\ | ||
- | - same pump as XL 26204-91A (new design) but with different fittings\\ | ||
- | - will bolt up but you need to change the fittings over to XL style\\ | ||
- | - has bottom cover casting P/N 26213-07\\ | ||
- | |||
- | **Buell P/N - 26357-02**\\ | ||
- | - Same pump as 1998-1999 XL 26204-98 but with different fittings \\ | ||
- | … same gerotors, same cover casting number \\ | ||
- | |||
- | See these XLForum threads:\\ | ||
- | https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/43858-evo-sportster-engine-oil-pump-up-date?t=135265\\ | ||
- | https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/161897-which-oil-pump-buell-26357-02b-or-xl-2007-26204-91a?t=1738158 | ||
====== Oil Pump Gaskets / Seals ====== | ====== Oil Pump Gaskets / Seals ====== |