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techtalk:evo:susp01e [2017/09/19 00:21] hippysmack [1200S Suspension: Settings for Factory 39mm Cartridge Valve Forks and Gas Canister Piggyback Shocks] |
techtalk:evo:susp01e [2024/01/06 05:42] (current) hippysmack [S Model Factory Recommended Suspension Adjustments from 'Maximum Hard Settings] |
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| * Set the all damping settings to the [[techtalk:evo:susp01e#s_model_factory_recommended_suspension_adjustments_from_maximum_hard_settings|Factory Recommendations ]]and ride over a variety of rough road / bumpy conditions at different speeds. ((HD 1998 Owner's Manual pg 115)) | * Set the all damping settings to the [[techtalk:evo:susp01e#s_model_factory_recommended_suspension_adjustments_from_maximum_hard_settings|Factory Recommendations ]]and ride over a variety of rough road / bumpy conditions at different speeds. ((HD 1998 Owner's Manual pg 115)) | ||
| * If the bike is not stable and comfortable, adjust damping to suit your individual conditions. ((HD 1998 Owner's Manual pg 115)) | * If the bike is not stable and comfortable, adjust damping to suit your individual conditions. ((HD 1998 Owner's Manual pg 115)) | ||
| - | * **If you are unsure which knobs control which feature**, see [[techtalk:evo:susp01#suspension_adjusting_knobs|Suspension Adjusting Knobs]] with explanations and also [[techtalk:evo:susp01#fork_and_shock_adjustment_pics|Pics of Fork and Shock Adjusters]]. | + | * **If you are unsure which knobs control which feature**, see [[techtalk:evo:susp01e#s_model_suspension_adjusting_knobs|Suspension Adjusting Knobs]] with explanations and pictures of fork and shock adjusters. |
| - | * See also [[techtalk:evo:susp01#troubleshooting_suspension_settings|Troublshooting Suspension Settings]] | + | * See also [[techtalk:evo:susp01e#s_model_troubleshooting_suspension_settings|Troublshooting Suspension Settings]] |
| * **Note**: Changes in load weight requires a change in pre-load settings. Less weight = lower pre-load, more weight = higher pre-load. **Caution: Do not exceed the GWWR for your bike** (on label on the frame steering head). | * **Note**: Changes in load weight requires a change in pre-load settings. Less weight = lower pre-load, more weight = higher pre-load. **Caution: Do not exceed the GWWR for your bike** (on label on the frame steering head). | ||
| * **Definitions**: | * **Definitions**: | ||
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| ==== S Model Suspension Adjusting Knobs ==== | ==== S Model Suspension Adjusting Knobs ==== | ||
| |Forks|Adjuster|Where to Find It((HD 1998 Owner's Manual pg 113)) | | |Forks|Adjuster|Where to Find It((HD 1998 Owner's Manual pg 113)) | | ||
| - | |:::|Rebound Damping Adjuster|Top Dial Knob| | + | |:::|Rebound Damping Adjuster|Top Dial Knob (pic #1-#2 below)| |
| - | |:::|Mechanical Pre-load Nut|Below the Top Knob| | + | |:::|Mechanical Pre-load Nut|Below the Top Knob (pic #2 below)| |
| - | |:::|Compression Damping Adjuster|Dial on Lower End of Slider| | + | |:::|Compression Damping Adjuster|Dial on Lower End of Slider (pic #3 below)| |
| |Rear Shocks|Adjuster|Where to Find It((HD 1998 Owner's Manual pg 115)) | | |Rear Shocks|Adjuster|Where to Find It((HD 1998 Owner's Manual pg 115)) | | ||
| - | |:::|Compression Damping|Top Dial Knob| | + | |:::|Compression Damping|Top Dial Knob (pic $4 below)| |
| - | |:::|Rebound Damping|Dial in the Lower Shock "Eye" Casting| | + | |:::|Rebound Damping|Dial in the Lower Shock "Eye" Casting (pic #6 below)| |
| - | |:::|Mechanical Pre-load|Adjuster Cam below the springs| | + | |:::|Mechanical Pre-load|Adjuster Cam below the springs (pic #5 below)| |
| + | ==== S Model Fork and Shock Adjustment Pics ==== | ||
| + | Click on a pic to enlarge: | ||
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| + | |{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_rebound_damping_adjuster_2.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_mechanical_pre-load_nut_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_compression_damping_adjuster.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| + | |1. Fork Rebound Damping Knob|2. Fork Rebound Knob & Pre-Load Adjustment Nut|3. Fork Compression Damping Knob| | ||
| + | |{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_shocks_compression_damping_knob_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_shocks_mechanical_pre-load_cam_1_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_shocks_rebound_damping_knob_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| + | |4. Shock Compression Damping Knob((photos by Hippysmack))|5. Shock Mechanical Pre-Load Cam((photos by Hippysmack))|6. Shock Rebound Damping Knob((photos by Hippysmack))| | ||
| ==== S Model Factory Recommended Suspension Adjustments from 'Maximum Hard Settings ==== | ==== S Model Factory Recommended Suspension Adjustments from 'Maximum Hard Settings ==== | ||
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| |Rear Shock Rebound|Position 6| | |Rear Shock Rebound|Position 6| | ||
| - | * You may hear all sorts of explanations as to how to adjust the knobs. But the trick is to learn how the changes you made affect how the bike rides. ((XLXR http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) | + | * You may hear all sorts of explanations as to how to adjust the knobs. But the trick is to learn how the changes you made affect how the bike rides. ((XLXR https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/45904-1200s-shocks-on-1200n/page2?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) |
| - | * Might as well start with both knobs in the middle of the range. Then move the compression adjuster one or two clicks at a time until you go from full soft to full hard and do enough riding at each position so you can tell the difference. ((XLXR http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) | + | * Might as well start with both knobs in the middle of the range. Then move the compression adjuster one or two clicks at a time until you go from full soft to full hard and do enough riding at each position so you can tell the difference. ((XLXR https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/45904-1200s-shocks-on-1200n/page2?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) |
| - | * Too much compression damping makes the bike ride stiff, too little makes the bike bouncy and/or bottom out. Find the happy medium.((XLXR http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) | + | * Too much compression damping makes the bike ride stiff, too little makes the bike bouncy and/or bottom out. Find the happy medium.((XLXR https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/45904-1200s-shocks-on-1200n/page2?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) |
| - | * Then start working with the rebound adjuster. Too much rebound damping may cause packing down, where the shock cannot extend after hitting a bump and gets shorter and shorter. Too little rebound damping can literally throw you off the seat.((XLXR http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) | + | * Then start working with the rebound adjuster. Too much rebound damping may cause packing down, where the shock cannot extend after hitting a bump and gets shorter and shorter. Too little rebound damping can literally throw you off the seat.((XLXR https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/45904-1200s-shocks-on-1200n/page2?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) |
| - | * Eventually, you will find the best positions. The least amount of damping in both directions will allow the wheel to track road bumps most effectively. Be careful when test riding after making changes because the bike can handle quite differently. ((XLXR http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) | + | * Eventually, you will find the best positions. The least amount of damping in both directions will allow the wheel to track road bumps most effectively. Be careful when test riding after making changes because the bike can handle quite differently. ((XLXR https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/45904-1200s-shocks-on-1200n/page2?t=164018&highlight=piggyback&page=2)) |
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| |Suspension doesn't respond to bumps \\ (tire chatter while cornering) \\ (jolting over rough terrain|:::| | |Suspension doesn't respond to bumps \\ (tire chatter while cornering) \\ (jolting over rough terrain|:::| | ||
| - | ==== S Model Fork and Shock Adjustment Pics ==== | ||
| - | Click on a pic to enlarge: | ||
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| - | |{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_rebound_damping_adjuster_2.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_mechanical_pre-load_nut_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_compression_damping_adjuster.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| - | |Fork Rebound Damping Knob|Fork Rebound Knob & Pre-Load Adjustment Nut|Fork Compression Damping Knob| | ||
| - | |{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_shocks_compression_damping_knob_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_shocks_mechanical_pre-load_cam_1_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:susp:s_model_shocks_rebound_damping_knob_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| - | |Shock Compression Damping Knob((photos by Hippysmack))|Shock Mechanical Pre-Load Cam((photos by Hippysmack))|Shock Rebound Damping Knob((photos by Hippysmack))| | ||
