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| ===== Shifter Assembly ===== | ===== Shifter Assembly ===== | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:shifter-assemby-04later.jpg?400|}}((pic from AB,Frank http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1799188)){{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:shiftershaft-oilseal-37107-06-manborn.jpg?400|}}{{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:shiftershaft-bushing-40574-06.jpg?200|}} | + | {{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:shifter-assemby-04later.jpg?400|}}((pic from AB,Frank https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/167512-primary-rattle-noises-wtf-now?t=1799188)){{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:shiftershaft-oilseal-37107-06-manborn.jpg?400|}}{{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:shiftershaft-bushing-40574-06.jpg?200|}} |
| **2004-2005 vs 2006+ Shifter Assembly**\\ | **2004-2005 vs 2006+ Shifter Assembly**\\ | ||
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| | All of these may have the same Internal Casting # 34951-04 which can be confusing ||| | | All of these may have the same Internal Casting # 34951-04 which can be confusing ||| | ||
| - | +__06-later - The outer diameter of the seal is larger, the bushing has a shoulder and presses in place from the inside of the cover. ((oo_buck_us in Post#15 - http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1560232))\\ | + | +__06-later - The outer diameter of the seal is larger, the bushing has a shoulder and presses in place from the inside of the cover. ((oo_buck_us in Post#15 - https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/143966-04-primary-cover-on-an-07?t=1560232))\\ |
| - | ++_latest P/N is 11000101 with 'garter spring' inside (old P/N 37101-84/A/B - no spring)\\ | + | ++_latest P/N is 11000101 with 'garter spring' inside (old P/N 37101-84/A/B - no spring). Dims per James Gasket - 13 x 19 x 4\\ |
| ... Cometic Equiv of 11000101 is C10213\\ | ... Cometic Equiv of 11000101 is C10213\\ | ||
| - | \\ | + | ===== The Shifter Shaft Seal ===== |
| **Install On all models:**\\ | **Install On all models:**\\ | ||
| The oil seal can be removed without removing the primary cover - remove the lever, then use a pick or screwdriver to pry the seal out of the cavity. | The oil seal can be removed without removing the primary cover - remove the lever, then use a pick or screwdriver to pry the seal out of the cavity. | ||
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| On installs, make sure the shaft is free from debris or rust and be sure to put tape over the splines on the shifter shaft before installing the oil seal to prevent the splines from cutting the seal. | On installs, make sure the shaft is free from debris or rust and be sure to put tape over the splines on the shifter shaft before installing the oil seal to prevent the splines from cutting the seal. | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:wire_brush_shifter_shaft_by_cjburr.jpeg?direct&335|}} ((photo by cjburr of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=49915)) {{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:shiftershaft-tapeoversplines-manborn.jpg?335|}} \\ | + | {{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:wire_brush_shifter_shaft_by_cjburr.jpeg?direct&335|}} ((photo by cjburr of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/29955-06-clutch-install?t=49915)) {{:techtalk:evo:transfinal:shiftershaft-tapeoversplines-manborn.jpg?335|}} \\ |
| The Oil Seal is installed first, followed by the washer/spacer (the '04-'05 Parts Manual may show the **WRONG** order).\\ | The Oil Seal is installed first, followed by the washer/spacer (the '04-'05 Parts Manual may show the **WRONG** order).\\ | ||
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| NOTE: There is a [[http://sportsterpedia.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/pdf-bulletin:tsb1350.pdf|TSB (M-1350)]] related to the 'NEW' Shifter Shaft Seal P/N 11000101 being installed with Special Tool HD-51337. The new seal has a 'garter spring' to help seal the shifter shaft from leaks. In this TSB, the following caution is made: If the tool is not used, install seal to a depth of 0.125-0.135 inches. DO NOT bottom the seal in the bore. Bottoming the seal will damage it and prevent it from sealing properly. (While this bulletin refers to Big Twins with 6-spd transmissions, this shifter shaft seal is used on other models, including the Sportsters.) | NOTE: There is a [[http://sportsterpedia.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/pdf-bulletin:tsb1350.pdf|TSB (M-1350)]] related to the 'NEW' Shifter Shaft Seal P/N 11000101 being installed with Special Tool HD-51337. The new seal has a 'garter spring' to help seal the shifter shaft from leaks. In this TSB, the following caution is made: If the tool is not used, install seal to a depth of 0.125-0.135 inches. DO NOT bottom the seal in the bore. Bottoming the seal will damage it and prevent it from sealing properly. (While this bulletin refers to Big Twins with 6-spd transmissions, this shifter shaft seal is used on other models, including the Sportsters.) | ||
| - | NOTE: Some owners have mistakenly gotten 2006-later covers and installed on 2004-05 engines. Neither stock shifter shaft seals would fit correctly, but purchasing an aftermarket seal, 12mm x 22mm x 5mm R23, seems to fit.((See post#15 from 93trident of the XLForum - http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2079676)) | + | The idea is that if you bottom the seal, the lips around the shaft will be pressed tightly against the primary cover and will not allow the lips to smoothly follow the movement of the shaft. Thus, the tight lips will be thwarting the 'sealing' aspect that the 'garter spring' is designed to enhance. |
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| + | The clearance should be from the deepest edge of the seal cavity in the primary cover. The referenced instructions are for the BT models. Therefore, the Sportster models may not be exactly the same. | ||
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| + | BUT, the principle still applies: Insert the seal slightly below that deepest edge of the cavity and don't bottom out the seal. That gives it the best chance to work correctly. | ||
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| + | NOTE: Some owners have mistakenly gotten 2006-later covers and installed on 2004-05 engines. Neither stock shifter shaft seals would fit correctly, but purchasing an aftermarket seal, 12mm x 22mm x 5mm R23, seems to fit.((See post#15 from 93trident of the XLForum - https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/202496-what-s-that-about-then?t=2079676)) | ||
| Also see the Sportsterpedia Primary Cover info [[techtalk:evo:priclutch02|HERE]]. | Also see the Sportsterpedia Primary Cover info [[techtalk:evo:priclutch02|HERE]]. | ||
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| Some XLForum reference threads:\\ | Some XLForum reference threads:\\ | ||
| - | http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=254258\\ | + | https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/53895-06-carb-to-07-fuel-injection-conversion?t=254258\\ |
| - | http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79795\\ | + | https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/39317-shifter-shaft-seal?t=79795\\ |
| - | http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1560232 (pics of '04 & '06 primary cover)\\ | + | https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/143966-04-primary-cover-on-an-07?t=1560232 (pics of '04 & '06 primary cover)\\ |
| - | http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=548729\\ | + | https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/76901-primary-cover-differences-05-vs-06?t=548729\\ |
| - | http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1218730\\ | + | https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/123027-06-1200c-primary-oil-leak?t=1218730\\ |
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| | |--Steel plate| 0.0059 in. / (0.150 mm)| | | |--Steel plate| 0.0059 in. / (0.150 mm)| | ||
| |Clutch pack service wear limit|0.6610 in. min. / (16.787 mm)| | |Clutch pack service wear limit|0.6610 in. min. / (16.787 mm)| | ||
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| ===== Primary Drive (engine to transmission) ===== | ===== Primary Drive (engine to transmission) ===== | ||
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| ^ |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th^ |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th| | ^ |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th^ |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th| | ||
| |2004|9.647|6.633|5.143|4.248|3.643^ |9.004|6.190|4.800|3.965|3.400| | |2004|9.647|6.633|5.143|4.248|3.643^ |9.004|6.190|4.800|3.965|3.400| | ||
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| ===== Mainshaft Fifth Gear ===== | ===== Mainshaft Fifth Gear ===== | ||
