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| ====== EVO: Specific Troubleshooting ====== | ====== EVO: Specific Troubleshooting ====== | ||
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| + | ====== General Practices & Procedures ====== | ||
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| ====== ECM Password Learn Procedure ====== | ====== ECM Password Learn Procedure ====== | ||
| - | The TSM/TSSM modules share a password with the ECM on fuel injected bikes (and ICM's on early rubber mount bikes). When replacing an ECM/ICM or TSSM, you must go through a password learn procedure. If the procedure is not followed, the engine will start and run for a few seconds, and then stall. This will typically throw a P1009 diagnostic code. | + | The TSM/TSSM/HFSM modules share a password with the ECM/ICM and Speedometer (2004-later) during operation. When replacing an ECM/ICM or TSSM/HFSM or Speedometer, you must go through a password learn procedure. If the procedure is not followed, the engine will start and run for a few seconds, and then stall. This will typically produce a P1009 or P1010 diagnostic code. |
| - | You will typically want to connect your motorcycle up to a charger and pull the headlight fuse before starting these procedures. The procedure MUST be followed from start to finish without any interruption. If interrupted, starting over from the beginning is the only option. | + | The learn procedure MUST be followed from start to finish without any interruption. If interrupted, starting over from the beginning is the only option. |
| - | For information about removing/replacing the TSM/TSSM, click this [[http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=573200|XLForum Thread]] by Cosmo on the topic. | + | **Connect the motorcycle up to a trickle charger and pull the headlight fuse before starting these steps, which take more than 30 minutes to complete.** |
| - | ^ Device Replaced ^ Password Learn\\ Procedure Required? | ((See 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster Electrical Diagnostic Manual Section 3.25, pg 3-72)) | | + | For information about removing/replacing the TSM/TSSM, click this [[https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-electrical-and-ignition/79011-tsm-tssm-hfsm-how-to-disable-alarm-and-or-replace-unit?t=573200|XLForum Thread]] by XLForum member 'Cosmo Kramer' on the topic. |
| - | | ECM | Yes || | + | |
| - | | TSM | No* || | + | |
| - | |TSSM | Yes || | + | | If the engine starts but stalls, check DTCs for P1009 (Incorrect Pwd) or P1010 (Missing Pwd) ((See 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster Electrical Diagnostic Manual Section 3.25, pg 3-72)) || |
| - | *If a TSM has been replaced with a HFSM, or a HFSM has been replaced by a TSM, password **is** necessary. | + | ^ Device Being Serviced ^ Password Learn Procedure Required | |
| + | | TSM replacing TSM | NO | | ||
| + | | TSM replacing HFSM or TSSM | YES | | ||
| + | | HFSM or TSSM new unit installed | YES | | ||
| + | | ECM new unit installed | YES | | ||
| + | | Speedometer new unit installed | YES | | ||
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| ^ Step # ^ Action ^ Confirmation ^ Notes | ((See 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster Electrical Diagnostic Manual Section 3.25, pg 3-73)) | | ^ Step # ^ Action ^ Confirmation ^ Notes | ((See 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster Electrical Diagnostic Manual Section 3.25, pg 3-73)) | | ||
| - | | | Ignition must be turned off for at least 15 seconds. | With ignition turned off, Check Engine Lamp and Security Lamp will be off. | | | + | | | Ignition must be turned off for at least 15 seconds. | With ignition turned off, Check Engine Lamp and Security Lamp will be off. | Remember to pull the headlight fuse to prevent draining the battery. This procedure takes more than 30 minutes to complete. || |
| | 1 | Install new TSM/HFSM or ECM. | | || | | 1 | Install new TSM/HFSM or ECM. | | || | ||
| - | | 2 | Set **RUN/OFF** switch to **RUN**. | | || | + | | 2 | Set **RUN/STOP** switch to **RUN**. | | || |
| | 3 | Turn **IGN** key **ON**. | Verify Check Engine Lamp and Security Lamp illuminate and then turn off. | TSM/HFSM enables starter relay.|| | | 3 | Turn **IGN** key **ON**. | Verify Check Engine Lamp and Security Lamp illuminate and then turn off. | TSM/HFSM enables starter relay.|| | ||
| | 4 | Attempt normal start **one** time. | Engine starts and stalls. Check Engine Lamp illuminates and stays on. | Password has not been learned. ECM sets DTC P1009. || | | 4 | Attempt normal start **one** time. | Engine starts and stalls. Check Engine Lamp illuminates and stays on. | Password has not been learned. ECM sets DTC P1009. || | ||
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| | 11 | Quickly (within two seconds) turn **IGN** key OFF-**ON**. | | ECM must not be allowed to shutdown. || | | 11 | Quickly (within two seconds) turn **IGN** key OFF-**ON**. | | ECM must not be allowed to shutdown. || | ||
| | 12 | Turn **IGN** key **OFF**. __Wait 15 seconds before turning IGN on__. Turn **IGN** switch **ON** and start engine to confirm successful Password Learn procedure. Clear diagnostic trouble codes. | | || | | 12 | Turn **IGN** key **OFF**. __Wait 15 seconds before turning IGN on__. Turn **IGN** switch **ON** and start engine to confirm successful Password Learn procedure. Clear diagnostic trouble codes. | | || | ||
| - | | 13 | If the learn procedure is interrupted or fails in any way, you must restart your attempt from the beginning of the procecure |||| | + | | 13 | If the learn procedure is interrupted or fails in any way, you must restart your attempt from the beginning of the procecure! |||| |
| (This section contributed by Screw Loose Dan ) | (This section contributed by Screw Loose Dan ) | ||
