Differences

This shows you the differences between two versions of the page.

--- techtalk:ih:body01a [2019/02/06 03:29]
+++ techtalk:ih:body01a [2021/05/15 03:47]
hippysmack [1965-1966 XLH Specific Information]
@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
+[[:techtalk:menu|{{  :techtalk:gototechnicalmenu.jpg|}}]]
+====== IH: Body Parts - Sub-01A ======
+====== 1957-1966 XL, XLH / 1958-1969 XLC, XLCH Sportster (Short) Frame Pics ======
+[[sportster_history:99xx-01a|Click Here]] to reference Sportster VIN Information in the History section of the Sportsterpedia. \\
+<WRAP center round box 60%>
+Disclaimer: This page is not meant to date frames as to say the frames presented are the actual factory made part. Rather, it is an attempt to show period specific model information. Due to the limited amount of frames made from the factory and 60+ years of use, replacement parts and/or modifications are surely to be found on current frames. However, due to the prevalence of modifications by previous owners, pure factory versions of old frames are rare and sometimes valuable.
+</WRAP>
+From Moon Wolf on modifications. ((Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349)) \\
+Modifications were very common (on these bikes). I would guess about half the frames you run across have the ears cut off. \\
+In the sixties and seventies, everyone was running chopper seats and the ears got in the way of the flat look we were after, so we hacked them off (sorry). \\
+In those days, we were anti-brackets and anti-protuberances of any kind, so in many cases the large tank-mounting-boss below the ears went with it. \\
+(along with the front boss for the damper, crashbar mounts and so on) \\
+The guys that did so weren't idiots, they were just doing what kids do. Modifications often started the day you brought your new bike home. \\
+As for me, I know that in 1969, when I bought my 1961 XLH, it took me about four weeks to make it into a near perfect XLCH clone. \\
+(fenders, tanks, shocks, headlight, and magneto and then another year to turn it into a full blown chopper) \\
+====== General Information ======
+===== Frame Interchange =====
+-1976 frames will interchange. Short frame was 52-66 all and 67-69 CH. Long frames were the other years / models. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1615459&page=3)) \\
+To change from one to the other you need: frame, swing arm (also long or short. It's the swing arm that varies the wheel base), driver peg supports. \\
+Using the short frame with hump (long fame) motors will require some kind of solution of side stand contacting primary drain plug and boss. \\
+The primary drain is a hump motor thing. To integrate it's addition to the cases, the foot peg mounting points and kickstand tab were moved forward on the long frame. \\
+Hence the different driver peg supports to bring the pegs back into position. \\
+This is a quote from Moon Wolf regarding short frames: \\
+<blockquote>The XLH and XLCH frame are essentially the same frame thru 1966. ((Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1951365&page=2)) \\
+The XLH has some extra mounts but you could make an convincing CH frame out of one of them quite easily. \\
+The "dogleg" H or "long" frame debuts in 67, and provides additional room for the electric start apparatus, which also debuts that year along with the one inch longer swingarm. \\
+Whatever language you choose to use, the short frame and magneto more or less signify what we guys from the 60s think of when we hear the term. \\
+In 1970, the CH gets the long frame and a timer in place of the mag--two of the reasons some old timers feel that 69 is the last year for true CH. \\
+</blockquote>
+The long frames have a spot on the seat base for the under seat ignition switch (short frames don't have this extra wing on the seat casting). ((mrmom9r of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1720232&highlight=frame&page=2)) \\
+Click on any pic below to enlarge: \\
+===== Seat Mount =====
+The distance between the seat mounting ears is 1-5/8". The inside of the ears line up with the outside of the main tube. \\
+The bottom of the ears line up exactly with the seat casting. Measuring from the end of the main tube to the tip of the ears is 7-5/8". ((Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) \\
+V-twin sells the ears prefabbed. \\
+The 'bottom' hole on the seat casting is for the rear mount of a 'turtle tank' or any of the large capacity K model/XL/XLH fuel tanks going back to 1952. ((Magneto Sportster of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) \\
+{{:techtalk:ih:body:1962_xlh_seat_casting_pic1_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}  ((photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1962_xlh_seat_casting_pic2_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}  ((photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) \\
+{{:techtalk:ih:body:1962_xlh_seat_casting_pic3_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}  ((photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1962_xlh_seat_casting_pic4_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}  ((photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) \\
+====== 1965-1966 XLH Specific Information ======
+There were two frame part numbers in the parts books (1965: 47014-65, 1966: 47014-56A). \\
+The -56A frame was sold as a replacement frame for 56 KH and 57-65 XL/XLH models. \\
+& 1966 XLH frames have 3 bosses on the left seat post (2 for mounting the toolbox/coil cover and 1 for a voltage regulator mounting point). \\
+The coil was moved up under the seat on the right and two angle brackets (31727-65) are used to bolt it to a boss under the right seat casting. \\
+These frames also have the “Wedding Band” strap on the right post for the oil tank bracket (as well as two threaded holes on the bottom of the casting for the oil tank). \\
+====== 1967-1969 XLCH Specific Information ======
+{{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic1_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic2_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) \\
+{{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic5_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic6_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) \\
+{{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic19_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic18_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) \\
+{{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic3_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic4_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) \\
+{{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic17_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1967-1969_xlch_pic16_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] )) \\
+\\
+[[:techtalk:menu|{{:techtalk:gototechnicalmenu.jpg|}}]]

Trace:

Differences

Navigation

Search

Toolbox