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| - | ====== IH: Carburetor, Intake Manifold & Exhaust Systems - Sub-01P ====== | + | ====== IH: Carburetor, Intake Manifold & Exhaust - Sub-01P ====== |
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| - | ===== Bendix Carb Identification ===== | + | \\ |
| + | ====== Keihin Butterfly Carb Identification ====== | ||
| See also in the Sportsterpedia: \\ | See also in the Sportsterpedia: \\ | ||
| - | * [[techtalk:ih:carb01#bendix_zenith_i6p12_carb_1972-early_1976|Bendix basic carb information]] | + | * [[techtalk:ih:carb01#keihin_Butterfly_or_non-cv_carb_late_1976-1987|Keihin Butterfly Carb Basic Information]] |
| - | * [[techtalk:ih:carb01c|Bendix Carb Functions, Adjustments, Tuning]] | + | * [[techtalk:ih:carb01q|Rebuilding a Keihin Butterfly Carb]] |
| + | * [[techtalk:ih:carb01r|Keihin Butterfly Carb Function and Tuning]] | ||
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| - | There are a lot of Sportsters out there that do not have their original Bendix carb attached to them. \\ | + | 76-78 Keihin carbs do not have an HD number on it or a stamp pad for numbering. The Keihin number is stamped in the flange. \\ |
| - | Consequently, this page will try to bring to light at least some the differences in these carbs. \\ | + | The best way to identify a 79-up Harley Keihin carb is to read the Keihin number. \\ |
| - | One could say it's a blessing that Bendix carbs for Harleys will interchange. \\ | + | It's the first 4 characters stamped on the (R) choke cable side just above the bowl. \\ |
| - | One could also say it's a curse. \\ | + | The HD part number on some models is on a sticker placed on the top of the carb. \\ |
| - | Bendix carbs for Sportsters were set up for Sportsters. \\ | + | Older carbs either weren't labeled or the sticker may either be missing or unreadable. \\ |
| - | Bendix carbs for other HD models were set up for the needs of those motors. \\ | + | |
| - | Changing the jetting alone (on other intended model carbs) to Sportster specs may still not give the results intended. \\ | + | |
| - | The 27155-72A Sportster carb has another number stamped into the ID pad (13732). \\ | + | |
| - | This Bendix part number denotes a certain configuration carb body and / or internal parts. \\ | + | |
| - | **Change Letters**: \\ | + | |
| - | You may have noticed a letter beside the HD part number or it may be arbitrarily stamped in the ID pad away from the HD number. \\ | + | |
| - | Carbs with changes made during the build phase had the change letter included at the end of the HD stamped part number. \\ | + | |
| - | Carbs with changes made at the dealership (customer owned bikes) had the change letter stamped into the existing ID pad...somewhere. \\ | + | |
| - | This explains the arbitrary location of some of the change letters. \\ | + | |
| - | For example, an "A" stamped into the ID pad away from the HD part# is a Bendix modification letter, not a suffix letter to the HD part#. \\ | + | |
| - | **Bendix model 13479**: \\ | + | As for interchangeability between butterfly carbs; \\ |
| + | Any Harley Keihin butterfly carb will interchange but the ones for big twins will need to be re-jetted for a Sportster engine. \\ | ||
| + | The chart on the [[techtalk:ih:carb01#sportster_keihin_carburetors_by_year_model|Basic carb information page]] has the factory jetting information for Sportsters. \\ | ||
| + | You may have to go up or down from there depending on what's already in your carb and your specific engine/A/C/exhaust setup. \\ | ||
| - | The model 13479 carb was used on FLP, FLH and FX model Harley Davidsons. \\ | + | Also, 76-78 Sportster carbs have a 38mm venture (measured at the smallest point near the throttle plate). \\ |
| - | The letters A, B, C, D, E and F stamped near the basic Bendix part number (13479) are change letters. \\ | + | 79-87 Sportster carbs have a 34mm venture. However, the carbs installed on BT's may be 38mm. \\ |
| - | Meaning they denote certain changes made per carb model. \\ | + | To find the venture size of the one you have, cut a piece of cereal / kleenex box cardboard 34mm wide and insert it into the most narrow part of the venturi. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4457592&highlight=keihin+bowl#post4457592)) \\ |
| + | Tight fit = 34 mm, loose fit = 38 mm. \\ | ||
| - | The following changes are noted in Technical Service Bulletin (614A). ((HD TSB 614A dated April 14, 1971)) \\ | + | See the pics below for a visual confirmation of year model features. \\ |
| - | * **Change for 13479A**: | + | |
| - | * The float setting was changed from 1/8" to 3/16" to remedy a rich condition occurring at steady speeds. | + | |
| - | * The clearance between the float tang and the wire clip on the needle decreased. \\ It should be .005"-.010" between the top of the tang and bottom of the portion of spring that hangs over the tang. | + | |
| - | * **Change for 13479B**: | + | |
| - | * A new choke valve has detents with a spring loaded plunger engaging the detents to provide positive positioning throughout the choking range. | + | |
| - | * New part (27664-71 choke shaft replaces 27664-70. | + | |
| - | * New part 27665-71 plunger added. | + | |
| - | * 27666-71 plunger spring added. | + | |
| - | * **Change for 13479C & 13479D**: \\ Changes were made to correct over-rich mixtures in the intermediate (off idle) speed range. | + | |
| - | * A new idle jet has two .06mm holes instead of one .08mm hole near the screw end. | + | |
| - | * New part (27725-71) idle jet has the letter 'A' stamped on the screw end and replaces 27723-71. | + | |
| - | * The idle air bleed hole in the carb body was enlarged from 3.35mm to 3.60mm (app. 9/64: in diameter). \\ Idle jet (27725-71 must be used with the drilled out passage in this carb for proper carburetion. \\ Dealers could drill the bleed hole and stamp the change letter //if// there was a problem with the field unit's performance. | + | |
| - | * The accelerator pump shaft had 2 additional holes to allow for an increase or decrease of quantity of fuel delivery. \\ Factory setting for the pin was the center hole. | + | |
| - | **Bendix model 13609 and 13731** \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_id_3.jpg?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_27155-76_860d_.jpg?direct&300|}} \\ |
| - | There were three Bendix carburetors, designated in the parts catalogs, that were installed on Sportsters. \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_id_2.jpg?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_id_1.jpg?direct&300|}} \\ |
| - | |Sportster \\ Year \\ Model|HD Part #|Bendix Part #|Venture \\ Size|No. of Idle \\ Discharge \\ Holes|Idle \\ Tube| | + | |
| - | |**E1972**|27155-72 ((1972,1973 HD Sportster Parts Catalog Supplements (99451-72), (99451-73) ))|13609A|38mm|3|(A) 27749-72| | + | |
| - | |:::|27155-72 ((1972,1973 HD Sportster Parts Catalog Supplements (99451-72), (99451-73) ))|13609B|38mm|3|(B) 27750-72| | + | |
| - | |**L1972-1974**|27155-72A ((1973, 1974 HD Sportster Parts Catalog Supplements (99451-73) (99451-74) ))|13731|38mm|4|:::| | + | |
| - | |**1975-Early 1976** \\ (also '71-'75 FX models)| 27155-72B ((1975 HD Sportster Parts Catalog Supplement (99451-75) )) ((1976 HD Sportster Parts Catalog Supplement (99451-76) )) ((1971-1984 HD FX Parts Catalog pg 35))|13731|38mm|4|integrated w / carb body \\ not for replacement| | + | |
| - | **Bendix model 13732** \\ | + | ==== Late 1976-Early 1978 ==== |
| - | * 27152-71A (13732) - 38mm, was reportedly factory installed on a '74 XLH delivered from the dealer in July 1974. ((The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=2)) | + | * Features: |
| + | * 38mm venture ((Hopper http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=276157&page=2)) | ||
| + | * Pump adjusting screw | ||
| + | * Idle mixture Screw | ||
| + | * Throttle stop screw | ||
| + | * Rocker arm | ||
| + | * Intake manifold ( 27021-71A )(( HD Sportster Parts Catalog (99451-78B) )) | ||
| + | * Accelerator pump rod attached at throttle cam ((HD XLH XLCH-1000 Parts Catalog (99451-78B) )) | ||
| + | * 1977 | ||
| + | * New diaphragm accelerator pump ((HD XLH XLCH-1000 Parts Catalog (99451-78B) )) | ||
| + | * Optional main jets were made available ((HD Parts and Accessories Bulletin dated February 8, 1977)) | ||
| + | |||
| - | **Other known Bendix ID information**: \\ | + | ==== Late 1978-1980 ==== |
| + | Changes were made to L78-up carbs due to the [[sportster_history:99xx-01f|U.S. Clean Air Act of 1978]]. \\ | ||
| + | * Features/ Upgrades: | ||
| + | * Changed to 34 mm venture ((Hopper http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=276157&page=2)) | ||
| + | * Fast idle cam | ||
| + | * Limiter Cap (over idle mixture )-late 1978-1979 \\ Square block behind the idle mix tower as a stop for the limiter cap. | ||
| + | * Throttle stop screw, throttle lever | ||
| + | * Choke plate | ||
| + | * Choke lever shaft | ||
| + | * Mounting flange | ||
| + | * Accelerating pump lever | ||
| + | * Rocker arm | ||
| + | * Intermediate lever | ||
| + | * 1979 | ||
| + | * Optional high altitude modification kit | ||
| + | * Accelerator pump housing redesigned ((HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 17)) | ||
| + | * Fast idle cam | ||
| + | * 1980-up | ||
| + | * Idle mixture screw is set and sealed off at the factory due to EPA regulations ((HD Service Letter #ML-131 dated September 14, 1979)) | ||
| - | |HD Part #|Bendix Part #|Venture Size|No. of Idle \\ Discharge \\ Holes| | + | ==== 1981-1983 ==== |
| - | |27152-71 ((needspeed of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=3))| |36mm| | + | |
| - | |27152-71 ((Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986))|13479A|36mm|3| | + | |
| - | |27152-71 ((savagegarden of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1903749))|13479E|36mm| | + | |
| - | |27152-71A ((The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=2))|13732|38mm| | + | |
| - | |27152-72 ((needspeed of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=3))| |38mm| | + | |
| - | |27155-72B ((curiousgeorge of the XLFORUM))| |36mm| | + | |
| - | |27155-72B ((DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=2))|13731C|38mm| | + | |
| - | |Zenith \\ 13859A|Also has the word Andpro. \\ __And__rews __Pro__ducts used to sell a Bendix carb. No HD markings|| | + | * Features/ Upgrades: |
| + | * 34mm venture | ||
| + | * A second cable added at the throttle (idle cable) | ||
| + | * Throttle lever | ||
| + | * Throttle stop | ||
| + | * Fast idle cam | ||
| + | * Fast idle cam adjusting screw | ||
| + | * Accelerator pump | ||
| + | * 1983 | ||
| + | * VOES port | ||
| + | * Evaporative port \\ **Note**: \\ For those sold for use in California (as part of the evaporative emissions kit) the fuel overflow fitting was capped and the overflow line was removed. ((HD Service Bulletin #M-905 dated August 26, 1985)) | ||
| + | ==== 1984-1985 ==== | ||
| - | | | + | * Features/ Upgrades: |
| - | ===== Venture Size ===== | + | * 34mm venture |
| - | The venturi size is cast into the venturi. ((needspeed of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=3)) \\ | + | * Dual throttle cables |
| - | Looking in the carb from the air cleaner end, the numbers are on the venturi at 12:00 o'clock on the radiused entry. \\ | + | * Throttle lever |
| - | They are small but every bendix should have the number stamped there. \\ | + | * Throttle lever stop |
| + | * Voes vacuum port | ||
| + | * Fast idle cam | ||
| + | * Fast idle cam adjusting screw | ||
| + | * VOES port | ||
| + | * Evaporative port | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_venture_id_1_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=3)) \\ | + | ====== Sportster Keihin Butterfly Carbs ====== |
| + | ===== (B50A) ===== | ||
| + | L1976 27153-76 Sportster '76 only' Keihin butterfly carb. \\ | ||
| + | Float bowl (27359-76). \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27364-76), inside casting# (1-2). \\ | ||
| + | It has a solid choke, meaning that the choke plate (butterfly) has no spring action in the linkage. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1035453)) \\ | ||
| + | You can begin to identify -76 only carb cause there is no plastic pieces on the choke shaft. \\ | ||
| + | It also has a idle mixture adjusting screw that was not hidden under a plug. It was rite out in the open where you can get to it. \\ | ||
| + | That is what you can tell from the outside. \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:l76_keihin_carb_1_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DDDDylan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4428805&highlight=keihin+bowl#post4428805)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:l76_keihin_carb_2_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DDDDylan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4428805&highlight=keihin+bowl#post4428805)) \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | The real scoop to tell if it's -76 is on the inside. \\ | ||
| + | Inside, there was no hole drilled between the main jet well and the low speed well to feed the low speed jet. \\ | ||
| + | That made it the only one that didn't use the low speed jet rubber plug you see when you take off the float bowl. \\ | ||
| + | This hole can be seen when you remove the rubber plug and look at the wall between the wells on 77 and up Keihin butterfly carbs. \\ | ||
| + | 77-up carbs have a hole to connect the low speed well to the main well. 76 only had no hole. \\ | ||
| + | If you have a 76 only and install rubber plug, your bike won't run. \\ | ||
| + | In the float bowl, the accelerator pump discharge nozzle has a .040" orifice, (stamped 100), as apposed to the .031" (stamped 75) used on 77 up. \\ | ||
| + | But most importantly, it didn't have an accelerator pump "relief" port. You can observe the relief action (if you have a 77-up bowl). \\ | ||
| + | Remove the bowl and the "L" shaped linkage that actuates the pump. Drop the "L" into its hole on the side of the bowl. \\ | ||
| + | Pour enough fuel in the bowl so that you have it about 1/4 full and actuate the pump by depressing the "L" link (don't squirt on yourself). \\ | ||
| + | On the 77-up, there is a little hole down on the bowl floor that fuel squirts out of, as well as the brass nozzle at the gasket surface. \\ | ||
| + | The quicker you press, the more goes thru the "relief". \\ | ||
| + | All "relief" bowls have a steel rod installed under the discharge nozzle. This rod is free in its movement and you can hear it if you shake the bowl. \\ | ||
| + | This rod acts as "variable" resistance to fuel flow to the actual discharge nozzle. \\ | ||
| + | If the pump is actuated slowly enough, all fuel will exit the relief because there isnt enough force to lift the rod. \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | '76 only' didn't have the rod at all. Instead, it used a check ball assembly in the small cover that is screwed onto the bowl (the one with the 3 holes). \\ | ||
| + | When you shake the small cover when it's removed from the bowl, you will hear the ball. There is no ball on 77-up. \\ | ||
| + | '76 only' has even more differences but those are the biggies. \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | The JP Cycles Deluxe Carb Rebuild Kit (4000050) will work. ((DeeDay of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1035453)) \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | L76 (only) XLH, XLCH main jet 140, slow jet 100, \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:76_keihin_carb_1_by_tld93030.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by TLD93030 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1035453)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:76_keihin_carb_2_by_tld93030.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by TLD93030 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1721746&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:76_keihin_carb_3_by_tld93030.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by TLD93030 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1721746&page=2)) \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===== (B50B) - (B50C) ===== | ||
| + | 1977-1978 27153-77 Sportster XLH, XLCH, XLT Keihin Butterfly carb. \\ | ||
| + | Float bowl (27384-77). \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27364-76), inside casting# (1-2). \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_1_by_maritimer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by maritimer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=1920224)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_2_by_maritimer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by maritimer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=1920224)) \\ | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:77-78_keihin_carb_3_by_pala.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by pala of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1771280&highlight=keihin+bowl&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:77-78_keihin_carb_2_by_pala.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by pala of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1771280&highlight=keihin+bowl&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:77-78_keihin_carb_1_by_pala.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by pala of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1771280&highlight=keihin+bowl&page=2)) \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===== (B83A) - (B83B)===== | ||
| + | 1979 Sportster 27469-78,((1979 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -79 pg 17)) 27469-78A ((1980 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -80 pg 17)) XL, XLCH, XLS models, main jet 165, slow jet 65, limiter cap over the idle mixture screw. \\ | ||
| + | Float bowl (27890-78) (B78A). \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27891-78). Accel pump 27891-80 was sold in 1985 as a replacement on carb 27469-78A. ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -85 pg 23)) \\ | ||
| + | Idle mixture screw tower has a block made on the back ofit as a stop for the limiter cap. \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:79_keihin_idle_mix_tower.jpg?direct&200|}} | ||
| + | |||
| + | **B83A**: \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_by_mickey_t.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by mickey t of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2073560&highlight=keihin&page=3)) \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | **B83B**: \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb_1_by_fireboy2600.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Fireboy2600 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5676463&highlight=keihin#post5676463)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb_4_by_fireboy2600.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Fireboy2600 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5676463&highlight=keihin#post5676463)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb_2_by_fireboy2600.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Fireboy2600 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5676463&highlight=keihin#post5676463)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb_3_by_fireboy2600.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Fireboy2600 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5676463&highlight=keihin#post5676463)) \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===== (B83D) ===== | ||
| + | 1980 XL, XLS 27469-80, ((1980 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -80 pg 17)) 27469-80A ((1981 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -81 pg 19)) \\ | ||
| + | Main jet 165, slow jet 65. \\ | ||
| + | Float bowl (27890-78) (B78A). \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27891-78). Accel pump 27891-80 was sold in 1985 as a replacement on carb 27469-80A. ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -85 pg 23)) \\ | ||
| + | Soft plug over the A/F mixture screw. \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===== (B83E) ===== | ||
| + | E1981-E1982 XL, XLS 27469-81 ((1981 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -81 pg 21)) ((1983 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -83 pg 23)) \\ | ||
| + | Main jet 160, slow jet 68. \\ | ||
| + | Soft plug over the A/F mixture screw. \\ | ||
| + | Float bowl(27890-78) (B78A). \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27891-78). \\ | ||
| + | ===== (B83F) ===== | ||
| + | L1981-E1982 XL, XLS 27469-81A. ((1983 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -83 pg 23)) \\ | ||
| + | Main jet 160, slow jet 68. \\ | ||
| + | Soft plug over the A/F mixture screw. \\ | ||
| + | Float bowl (27890-78) (B78A). \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27891-80). \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_1_by_terd_ferguson.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by terd ferguson of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1515905)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_2_by_terd_ferguson.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by terd ferguson of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1515905)) \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===== (B83G) ===== | ||
| + | L1982 XL, XLS 27469-82. ((1983 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -83 pg 23)) \\ | ||
| + | Main jet 150, slow jet 68. \\ | ||
| + | Soft plug over the A/F mixture screw. \\ | ||
| + | Float bowl(27890-78) (B78A). \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27891-80). \\ | ||
| + | ===== (B83H) ===== | ||
| + | Float bowl (27331-83) (B83H). Casting marks inside the bowl: 328:1 \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27891-80). \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | **E1983** 27469-83 XL, XLS, XLX. ((1984 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -84 pg 27)) \\ | ||
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| + | **L1983** 27469-83A XL, XLS, XLX. ((1984 HD Sportster Parts Catalog -84 pg 27)) \\ | ||
| + | Main jet 160, slow jet 52. \\ | ||
| + | Soft plug over the A/F mixture screw. \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27891-80). \\ | ||
| + | Black plug over evaporative port. \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:83_keihin_butterfly_carb_by_ratrodder.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by RatRodder of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1670881)) \\ | ||
| - | | 27155-72B (13731C), arbitrary 'C' ((photos by DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=2)) || | + | ===== (B83K) ===== |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_7_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_9_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | 1984 27469-83B XL, XLS, XLX. \\ |
| + | Main jet 160, slow jet 52. \\ | ||
| + | Soft plug over the A/F mixture screw. \\ | ||
| + | Black plug over evaporative port. \\ | ||
| + | Float bowl (27331-83) (B83H). Casting marks inside the bowl: 328:1 \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27891-80). \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_off_84_pic_1_by_froddy.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by froddy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=861684&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_off_84_pic_2_by_froddy.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by froddy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=861684&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_off_84_pic_3_by_froddy.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by froddy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=861684&page=2)) \\ | ||
| - | Both of these carbs are stamped 27152-71. \\ | + | ===== (B83K) ===== |
| - | One has a '36' and the other has a '38' stamped inside the venture. \\ | + | 1985 27469-83C XL, XLS, XLX \\ |
| - | | 27152-71A (13732) - venturi stamped '38' ((photos by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=3)) ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=2)) || | + | Main jet 160, slow jet 52. \\ |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ih:carb:72-74_bendix_idle_tube_location_by_the_doctor71_annotated_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_venture_id_2_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | Soft plug over the A/F mixture screw. \\ |
| + | Float bowl (27331-83) (B83H). Casting marks inside the bowl: 328:1 \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump (27891-80). \\ | ||
| + | Black plug over evaporative port. \\ | ||
| - | | 27152-71 (13479A) arbitrary 'A' - venturi stamped '36' ((photo by Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986)) || | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_1_by_hcrashster.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by hcrashster of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1786621)) \\ |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_4_by_popgadget.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_5_by_popgadget.jpg?direct&170|}}| | + | |
| - | | 27152-71 (13479E) arbitrary 'E', adjustable jet ((photos by savagegarden of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1903749)) || 27152-71 (13479E) arbitrary 'E', \\ fixed jet, 36mm ((photo by savagegarden of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1903749)) | | + | ====== Other HD Keihin Butterfly Carbs ====== |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_27152-71e_pic_2_by_savagegarden.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_27152-71e_pic_1_by_savagegarden.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_27152-71e_pic_3_by_savagegarden.jpg?direct&200|}}| | + | There are usually lots of compatible Keihin carbs on eBay. Anything from late 1976 up to about 1988 will bolt on and work well. ((Ironmick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5465749&highlight=keihin+bowl#post5465749)) \\ |
| + | They all "look" about the same but there are differences. (As for factory Sportster carbs), best may be the late 1976 to 1978 keihin butterfly. \\ | ||
| + | It is 38 mm, and does not suffer the government mandated modifications that are in the 1979-on Keihins. \\ | ||
| - | ===== 36mm and 38mm Comparison ===== | + | ===== 27155-76A ===== |
| + | Application for all 76-E1978 FX models. ((1971-1984 HD FX Model Parts Catalog pg 31)) \\ | ||
| + | No choke spring, no plastic on choke. ((Alford of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1035453)) \\ | ||
| + | Air Fuel Screw is on top, not buried under a cap. \\ Accelerator pump has check ball, not the rod. \\ | ||
| + | Low speed jet is covered with rubber plug and there is a hole between the low speed and main well. \\ | ||
| + | Float bowl: ((1970-1978 HD Electra Glide and Super Glide Parts Catalog pg 17)) \\ | ||
| + | 76-E77 (27359-76). \\ | ||
| + | L77-78 (27359-76A). \\ | ||
| + | Accelerator pump 76-78 (27364-76). ((1970-1978 HD Electra Glide and Super Glide Parts Catalog pg 17)) \\ | ||
| - | Side by side comparison of 36mm and 38mm Bendix carbs. \\ | + | ===== (B28K) ===== |
| - | Aside from the venturi size, the other main difference that might affect the way it runs is the number of secondary idle discharge ports. \\ | + | |
| - | These are the holes that get uncovered by the throttle plate at part throttle settings. \\ | + | |
| - | The 38mm has 3 (in addition to the idle adjustment screw hole). \\ | + | |
| - | The 36 has 2 (in addition to the idle adjustment screw hole). \\ | + | |
| - | The air cleaner screw bosses on the 36mm are smaller. \\ | + | |
| - | | (Left) 38mm, (Right) 36mm ((photo by needspedd of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1993814)) | 36mm doesn't have a bowl vent hole here ((photo by needspedd of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1993814)) | (L) 38mm has a flat corner, (R) 36mm is round ((photo by needspedd of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1993814)) | | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_b28k_pic_1_by_jezter.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jester of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1392914)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_b28k_pic_2_by_jezter.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jester of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1392914)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_b28k_pic_3_by_jezter.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jester of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1392914)) \\ |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_36-38mm_carb_comparison_1_by_needspeed.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_36-38mm_carb_comparison_2_by_needspeed.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_36-38mm_carb_comparison_3_by_needspeed.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | ===== (B81B) ===== |
| + | 27468-78A. \\ | ||
| + | L1978-1979 FX, FXE, FXS \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_buttefly_1_by_spuggy.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by spuggy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5694195&highlight=keihin#post5694195)) \\ | ||
| - | ===== Idle Passages ===== | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_buttefly_2_by_spuggy.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by spuggy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5694195&highlight=keihin#post5694195)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_buttefly_3_by_spuggy.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by spuggy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5694195&highlight=keihin#post5694195)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_buttefly_4_by_spuggy.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by spuggy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5694195&highlight=keihin#post5694195)) \\ |
| - | The 36mm carb has 3 idle passages. ((Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986&page=3)) \\ | + | |
| - | The 38mm carb has 4 idle passages. \\ | + | |
| - | ===== Main Jet / Idle Tube ===== | + | |
| - | One feature of an adjustable main jet, (besides the number), is the holes near the bottom that are drilled at about a 45° angle. ((needspeed of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986&page=2)) \\ | + | |
| - | Note that on the adjustable main jet shown below (R), the top of it looks identical to the fixed jet. ((Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986&page=2)) \\ | + | |
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_main_jet_comparison_by_needspeed_-_annotated.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by needspeed of the XLFORUM, annotated by Hippysmack http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986&page=2)) | + | ===== (B8?D) ===== |
| + | 27467-80. \\ | ||
| + | This is reportedly a 1980 Shovelhead carburetor. ((stu Elpaso of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=951659)) \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_2_by_big_e78.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by Big_e78 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=951659)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_1_by_big_e78.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by Big_e78 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=951659)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_3_by_big_e78.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by Big_e78 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=951659&page=2)) \\ | ||
| - | Some have converted their fixed main jet setup to an adjustable jet. \\ | + | ===== (B78B) ===== |
| - | The C66-157 fixed main jet came standard on a 1974 Sportster. \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:79_up_keihin_butterfly_carb_by_pan-shovel-head51-79.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by pan-shovel-head51-79 of the XLFORUM)) \\ |
| - | |Bendix Carb Main Jet C66-157 - 1.10mm ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2073320)) ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM))|| | + | ===== (B78E) ===== |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_main_jet_c66-157_1.10mm_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_9_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}}| | + | |
| - | The C66-184 adjustable main jet has the tube extending beyond the taper. ((Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986&page=2)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_b78e_pic_1_by_jezter.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jezter of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1392914)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_b78e_pic_2_by_jezter.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jezter of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1392914)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_b78e_pic_3_by_jezter.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jezter of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1392914)) \\ |
| - | | Bendix C66-184 adjustable main jet ((photo by Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986)) || | + | ===== (B79A) ===== |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_main_jet_1_c66-184_by_popgadget.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_main_jet_2_c66-184_by_popgadget.jpg?direct&200|}}| | + | 27472-79. \\ |
| + | This was the factory carb mounted to a 1979 FXS / FXEF-80, main jet 160, low speed jet 72. \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_27472-79_pic_4_by_jesse_eads.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jesse_eads of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5778439#post5778439)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_27472-79_pic_1_by_jesse_eads.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jesse_eads of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5778439#post5778439)) \\ | ||
| - | ==== Idle Tube ==== | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_27472-79_pic_2_by_jesse_eads.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jesse_eads of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5778439#post5778439)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_27472-79_pic_3_by_jesse_eads.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jesse_eads of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5778439#post5778439)) \\ |
| - | Alternate references include intermediate / idle / low speed jet. The original idle tubes are designated with either an A, B, or C marked on top. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4829064#post4829064)) \\ | + | |
| - | Tube sizes: \\ | + | ===== (B79B) ===== |
| - | * A = .60mm ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4829064#post4829064)) (27749-72) standard on carbs through change letter "A". | + | |
| - | * B = .65mm ((1971-1984 HD FX FSM pg 35)) (27750-72) standard on carbs through change letter "B". | + | |
| - | * C = standard on carbs through change letter "C" plugged tubes. | + | |
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_idle_tubes_by_dr_dick.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4829064#post4829064)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_idle_tube_-a.jpg?direct&350|}} ((photo by Hippysmack of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=8)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb1_by_brendan.jpg?direct&220|}} ((photo by Brendan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5759341)) \\ |
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb2_by_brendan.jpg?direct&220|}} ((photo by Brendan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5759341)){{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb4_by_brendan.jpg?direct&220|}} ((photo by Brendan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5759341)){{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb3_by_brendan.jpg?direct&220|}} ((photo by Brendan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5759341)) | ||
| - | \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb5_by_brendan.jpg?direct&220|}} ((photo by Brendan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5759341)){{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb6_by_brendan.jpg?direct&220|}} ((photo by Brendan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5759341)){{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb7_by_brendan.jpg?direct&220|}} ((photo by Brendan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5759341)) |
| - | ===== Throttle Linkage ===== | ||
| - | Here’s another, and more significant difference. ((Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986&page=2)) \\ | ||
| - | The cable attachment to the throttle shaft is in a different position which changes the geometry of the cable action. \\ | ||
| - | With the 36 mm carb, the cable pulls from over center with the stock outer jacket bracket. \\ | ||
| - | As you can see in the left picture, even with a modified bracket, the geometry isn’t great. \\ | ||
| - | The picture on the right is the same 36mm carb with the correct throttle shaft and return spring for a 38mm carb added. \\ | ||
| - | The throttle return spring is substantially stronger than the original (for the 36mm). \\ | ||
| - | It also required an additional spring to properly return. \\ | ||
| - | The standard (38mm style) bracket was used to support the outer jacket of the cable. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_14_by_popgadget.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986&page=2)) | + | ===== (B79E) ===== |
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_9_by_popgadget.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_10_by_popgadget.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071986&page=2)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_b79e_pic_1_by_jezter.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jester of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1392914)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_b79e_pic_2_by_jezter.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jester of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1392914)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_b79e_pic_3_by_jezter.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by jester of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1392914)) \\ |
| - | ====== Pics of Bendix Carbs ====== | + | ===== (B79F) ===== |
| + | 27472-81A. \\ | ||
| + | 1981-1983 FXEF-80 / FXE-80 \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb3_by_abzy.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by abzy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=276157&page=13)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb1_by_abzy.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by abzy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=276157&page=13)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb2_by_abzy.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by abzy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=276157&page=13)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb4_by_abzy.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by abzy of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=276157&page=13)) \\ | ||
| - | ===== 27152-71A ===== | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_1_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | ||
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_2_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | ||
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_3_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | ||
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_4_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | ||
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_5_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | ||
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_6_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | ||
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_7_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | + | ===== 27029-86 ===== |
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_8_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | + | 1988 FLT or FXR. 38mm venture. ((NH86XL883 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1258235)) \\ |
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_9_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | + | {{:techtalk:evo:carb:idle_mixture_screw_1_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1592463&page=48)) \\ |
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) \\ | + | |
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_10_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_1_by_sifty.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4294940#post4294940)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_2_by_sifty.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4294940#post4294940)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_3_by_sifty.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4294940#post4294940)) \\ |
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_11_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | + | |
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix-zenith_carb_12_by_the_doctor71_of_the_xlforum.jpg?direct&200|}} | + | |
| - | ((Pic courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) \\ | + | |
| - | ===== 27155-72B ===== | + | ===== (02BP) ===== |
| - | | 27155-72B (13731) fixed jet (hidden under welch plug). Also has stampings 'C' and '5 95' ((photos by DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072203&page=2))|| | + | Part number unknown at this time, BT carb . Possible 83 model carb due to the black rubber cap on the top of the carb's evaporative port. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1661384&highlight=keihin+bowl)) ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1918803&highlight=keihin&page=2)) \\ |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_7_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_9_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | Just leave it capped. It has no practical use. \\ |
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_1_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_2_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_3_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) \\ | ||
| - | |{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_2_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_3_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_carb_5_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&200|}}| | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_4_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_5_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_6_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) \\ |
| - | ====== Zenith Replacement Carbs ====== | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_7_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_8_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_9_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) \\ |
| - | ===== 0-13731 ===== | + | |
| - | * Standard Finish ((http://www.zenithfuelsystems.com/documents/HARLEYDAVIDSONCARBURETORS2009.pdf)) | + | |
| - | * 38mm venturi | + | |
| - | * Fixed main jet | + | |
| - | * Fits all H-D® Sportster 1974 through 1980 engines | + | |
| - | * OEM for (27155-72B) | + | |
| - | ===== 0-13859 ===== | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_10_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_11_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_12_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) \\ |
| - | * Standard Finish –38mm -venturi ((http://www.zenithfuelsystems.com/documents/HARLEYDAVIDSONCARBURETORS2009.pdf)) | + | |
| - | * Adjustable main jet | + | |
| - | * Fits all H-D® Sportster 1974 thru 1980 engines | + | |
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_13_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_14_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_15_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1663198&highlight=keihin+bowl)) \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:bendix_by_icedpee.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by IcedPee of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1474268)) \\ | + | ===== (02BQ) ===== |
| - | ===== 0-14130 ===== | + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_1_by_maustarman.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Maustarman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2020910)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_2_by_maustarman.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Maustarman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2020910)) \\ |
| - | * Standard Finish ((http://www.zenithfuelsystems.com/documents/HARLEYDAVIDSONCARBURETORS2009.pdf)) | + | |
| - | * 40mm venturi | + | |
| - | * Dual throttle cable | + | |
| - | * All year H-D® models with use of proper manifold. | + | |
| - | * Designed for Evolution® motors | + | |
| - | ===== 015110 and 015112 ===== | + | ===== (02BR) ===== |
| - | * 015110 – Standard finish ((http://www.zenithfuelsystems.com/documents/HARLEYDAVIDSONCARBURETORS2009.pdf)) | + | |
| - | * 015112 –Chrome finish | + | |
| - | * 40mm venture | + | |
| - | * Adjustable main jet | + | |
| - | * Dual throttle linkage-spigot mount | + | |
| - | * Fits 1984 Evolution Engines & H-D Twin Cam models 1999 and later. | + | |
| - | ====== Bendix / Zenith Manuals and Other Helpful Links ====== | + | 27029-86B. \\ |
| + | All 1987 FXR, Softail models, main jet 162, slow jet 50 \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb_by_popgadget.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Popgadget of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5722462&highlight=keihin#post5722462)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:kehien_butterfly_carb_1_by_racedvl.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by racedvl of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1791419)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:kehien_butterfly_carb_2_by_racedvl.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by racedvl of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1791419)) \\ | ||
| - | * [[http://www.zenithfuelsystems.com/|Zenith Fuel Systems.com]] | + | ===== 27029-88 ===== |
| - | * [[http://www.zenithfuelsystems.com/documents/HARLEYDAVIDSONCARBURETORS2009.pdf|2009 Zenith Fuel Systems LLC PDF for Harley Carbs]] | + | |
| + | Other numbers on body: (0695) and (F58A) (BH28) for 88-89 FLT, FXR and SOFTAIL models (except Cal.) ((https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/service/procedure/5697/PDF/f52c2fcc-9daa-4115-a6f7-006df7a9d140/en_US?uid=f52c2fcc-9daa-4115-a6f7-006df7a9d140&time=1480204850000&baseUrl=%2Fcontent%2Fdocument%2Fview%3Fid%3D5697)) \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb_1_by_freewheeler.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Freewheeler of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1918803&highlight=keihin)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb_2_by_freewheeler.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Freewheeler of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1918803&highlight=keihin)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_carb_by_icefire.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Icefire of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84429)) \\ | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:kehien_butterfly_carb_1_by_vwtopia.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by vwtopia of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1662810)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:kehien_butterfly_carb_2_by_vwtopia.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by vwtopia of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1662810)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:kehien_butterfly_carb_3_by_vwtopia.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by vwtopia of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1662810)) \\ | ||
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| + | ===== (F59B) ===== | ||
| + | 27026-88A. \\ | ||
| + | 88-89 FLT, FXR and SOFTAIL models (Cal. and Swiss models only) ((https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/service/procedure/5697/PDF/f52c2fcc-9daa-4115-a6f7-006df7a9d140/en_US?uid=f52c2fcc-9daa-4115-a6f7-006df7a9d140&time=1480204850000&baseUrl=%2Fcontent%2Fdocument%2Fview%3Fid%3D5697)) \\ | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:27026-88a_keihin_by_tuanis.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Tuanis of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2029663)) \\ | ||
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| + | ===== (F20Q) ===== | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_2_by_mrironhead.jpg?direct&300|}} ((MrIronHead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072120)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_1_by_mrironhead.jpg?direct&300|}} ((MrIronHead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072120)) \\ | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_3_by_mrironhead.jpg?direct&300|}} ((MrIronHead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072120)) {{:techtalk:ih:carb:keihin_butterfly_carb_4_by_mrironhead.jpg?direct&300|}} ((MrIronHead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072120)) \\ | ||
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| + | ====== Helpful Links ====== | ||
| + | **Video**: \\ | ||
| + | Here are some excellent videos of servicing the pre-CV Keihin Butterfly carbs: ((Used by permission - SportsterPaul at the XLForum - http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2055701)) | ||
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| + | * [[https://youtu.be/f_Ek37GEEN4|#1 - Tips and tricks.]]\\ | ||
| + | * [[https://youtu.be/OC75jFhAwLc|#2 - Disassembly and cleaning.]]\\ | ||
| + | * [[https://youtu.be/WaZHg2Brl3U|#3 - Assembly and testing.]]\\ | ||
| + | * [[https://youtu.be/5Q26WDIxWek|#4 - Testing and start-up.]]\\ | ||
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