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IH: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-03P

77-85 Oil Pump Inspection

With the replacement of the gear driven oil pump by the new gerotor style pump;
HD issued a recommendation to dealers regarding servicing of the new style oil pumps. 1)
Zero gerotor (gear) side clearance must be maintained by the flat spring between the upper and lower separator plates for adequate oil pressure.
For the spring to function properly, the upper face of the lower feed gerotors must extend slightly above the cover to prevent any side clearance.
(which would allow oil to get past the gerotors and reduce oil pressure)
If you have reduced oil, no oil pressure (oil light comes on or stays on) or otherwise need to disassemble the oil pump for any reason,
The gerotors and their corresponding operating surface in the housing and the cover should be checked and serviced accordingly.

Inspect the oil pump cover and body

Look for debris while disassembling

Grit / Debris found in the oil pump can give clues to potential motor problems.
While removing each part starting from the cover, make note of the color of the oil, any grit or metal particles and what color they are.

Silicone 'gummy bear' sheet found in the feed side 2)

Inspect the ridge in the cover

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Inspect the gerotor surface for flatness in the oil pump cover and housing

An oil pump cover found with an uneven gerotor surface should be removed.
If the gerotor widths measure equally but they are not equal in height when placed into the cover, the cover surface is not flat.
If the gerotors will not sit flat in the cover then the cover should be replaced.
Be sure to check the gerotors in the new/replacement cover using a straight­ edge to assure a level surface and the proper elevation above the ridge.
Be sure to check the gerotor surface in the housing also.

Inspect the gerotor surface in the cover and housing for deep scratches or gouges

Many (most perhaps) used oil pumps have scratches on both the gerotors and pump surfaces that the gerotors ride on.
But, there is one certain spot that seems to be scratched more times than others. 4)
It's on the larger of the two pads in the pump body and the cover seem to usually have more wear.
Sometimes, the small pad is scratched or damaged also but not always.
The gap between the inner and outer gerotors on both the feed and return sides tends to be scratched as in the pics below.
Debris caught between these two gears cannot slide over and fall to the other cavity and out of the pump.
It gets locked between the teeth and ripped across the aluminum surface.

In theory, no particles of any size should be able to spin around to the small pad.
This is mainly due to the pressure generated by the spring washer and the gerotor spacing there.
Also, any debris picked up from the source side cavity should drop down into the feed side cavity and out of the pump.
The side toward the motor is where oil is transferred to and from the pump.
The inner and outer gerotors come together on the other side (right side).
This spacing relationship doesn't change between the motor side or the outside of the pump due to the offset gearshaft.

But in reality, debris gets caught in or between the gears and gets dragged over the aluminum flats.
Some then find their way under the gerotors while the spring washer flexes from the stress.
The debris spins around under the gerotors and wears scratches in the flats (pads) or worse.

There should be some amount of reduced pressure because of the scratches (depending on how may and how deep).
Pressure generated to the output cavity can squirt back to the input side through these scratches.
How much pressure loss would depend on the width, depth, length of the scratches and oil viscosity at the time.
To make the pump inoperative or not make pressure (from the scratches alone);
The scratches would have to be proportional to the relative volume of all four gerotor reservoirs combined.
Then, the check valve would have to accept less pressure flow than the backpressure from the pump.
The gerotor surface in the cover would have to be eat up pretty bad to make the pump completely ineffective.
The pump would have less pressure loss with multi-weight or straight weight oil when cold than hot.
They'll both flow faster when hot.

Gerotor rotation (cover shown) 5)


Classifying Scratches in Gerotor Surfaces

HD says that if there are any notable scratches on the gerotor riding surfaces in the oil pump housing or cover, then they should be replaced.

Further comments by Hippysmack:

In thinking about it;

  • Inlet side of the pump feed cavity is first fed by gravity from the oil tank and then by suction assist (vacuum pressure) created by the spinning feed gerotors.
  • Inlet side of the pump return cavity is fed solely on suction from the spinning return gerotors.
    Oil is sucked uphill from the crankcase sump thru a small drilled oil galley in the case to the oil pump.
  • For both feed and return sides respectively,
    Oil is transferred from one inlet cavity to it's corresponding outlet cavity by way of pressure (not gravity).
    The spinning gerotors force oil from the inlet to the outlet.
  • It takes more oil pressure to get feed oil into the motor than it does to get return oil back to the oil tank.
    (due to further restrictions up the feed path).
    So pressure loss is more concerning on the feed side (for this discussion, pressure loss thru the scratches in the gerotor surface in the pump cover).
    It takes pressure to make the oil run uphill from the pump to the engine.
    Whereas oil flow loss thru scratches is more concerning on the return side.
    Easier to wetsump if oil is not flowing out fast enough.
  • There is a certain amount of intermittent pressure lost by design on every gerotor tooth rotation.
    This is more prevalent on the feed side than return due to back pressure further up the feed oil path.
    When a tooth first enters the rather long inlet cavity, pressure starts building as it rotates around the end of that cavity.
    Until the feed tooth is fully over the big pad in the cover, some oil squirts back into the inlet cavity from backpressure.
    Once the tooth is fully on top of the big pad, pressure builds from there as it rotates toward the outlet cavity.
    Oil is transferred out the pump from there and the pressure in that side of the gerotor is relieved until the next rotation.
  • Elongated scratches in these pads allow a constant amount of generated pressure on the outlet side to squirt back to the inlet side of the pump.
    This will lower the pressure to the extent of how deep the scratches are.
    Deep scratches allow more oil pressure or oil flow to recirculate from the outlet back to the inlet within the oil pump.
    This makes for less oil gauge pressure on the feed side as well as less oil flow to the motor.
    This makes for less oil flow back to the oil tank.
  • How many scratches or how deep the scratches need to be before the pump housing/cover needs to be replaced has never been publicized by the MoCo.
    They apparently didn't want to get into the weeds… as I've done here.
  • Backpressure is greater on the feed side than it is the return side.
    The feed path from the pump has many turns and restrictions that build pressure.
    Since oil is not compressible, it can't absorb any of that pressure.
    So excess pressure is sent backwards from the restrictions.
    This is how oil can recirculate from the feed outlet back to the feed inlet through out of service clearances and oil pump pad wear.
    When the pressure is reverted backward, it runs back to the inlet side of the pump.
    If backpressure is allowed to constantly run back to the inlet side, it will send oil back up the feed hose.
    If you normally would have say 4psi at idle on the pump outlet, you'd now have 2 psi on the outlet and 2 psi going back to the inlet.
  • Consequently, more oil will recirculate thru the feed side than the return side if both big pads have identical width and depth elongated scratches.
    The backpressure from the feed side would push more oil faster under the gerotors than the return side with less backpressure.
    If the oil tank vent line is stopped up, backpressure on the return side of the pump will be greater and send more oil under the gerotors back to the sump.
  • I'd guesstimate that there are a whole lot of Sportsters on the road with motors having gerotor pumps with various degrees of scratches.
    The fact that there hasn't been a lot of talk on degrees of scratches in the oil pump says that most probably don't worry too much about them.
    But then, you end up seeing that one complete teardown due to an oil pump problem and you get to wondering yourself.
  • There is only one way to answer that question. You have to do some pressure testing.
    Click Here to see expected oil pressure when tested with an oil gauge.
    Click Here to see the page in the Sportsterpedia on how to install an oil gauge.
    Checking oil pressure should be routine maintenance. You can measure the current oil pressure and keep a log on future pressure changes.
    Hot oil pressure isn't that much at idle even with a new oil pump. Oil pump wear will lower that reading.
    In fact, the figures in the FSM for expected oil pressure do assume the pump is in good (non worn) shape.
    If pressure is low, you might want to look into the oil pump or other points along the oil path.
    Low pressure doesn't immediately mean the housing or cover is scratched too bad.
    But if you take a reading, replace the pump and take a new reading…. that does tell you something.
  • Maybe this will give more people cause to think on the subject of how much is too much or how little is just fine.

Below are a few used oil pumps showing scratches of varying degrees. Further comments are posted on top of the pics.
These are simply observations and it's up to the individual to decide how much wear on the gerotor surfaces in the oil pump are acceptable.
Any marked reusable should still be pressure tested and observed if you'll be using them.

Metal chunk lodged in return inlet.
The one medium scratch on big pad is some concern.
Small amount of recirculation oil internally.
Metal debris lessens amount of pickup oil at once.
May be reusable with further observation 6)
Deep and wide channel ripped into big pad.
Light scratches across small pad.
High possibility of recirculating oil internally,
(feed outlet to feed inlet thru big pad scratch)
Owner said oil was not returning.
Should be replaced. 7)
A gearshaft pin sheared and got into the return cavity.
It broke out a corner of the big pad.
The remaining flat surface of pad is undamaged.
Should be reusable with further observation. 8)

Check for cracks in the housing and cover

The cover below was cracked at the oil pressure switch end from tightening the pressure switch too tight.
The crack was welded over and a Dremil tool was used to reshape the cover.
Due to warpage during welding, the threads need to be chased with a tap to straighten them back out.

Repair on oil pump cover 9) Oil Switch Torque 10)

Inspect the Housing Roll Pin

The roll pin is installed into the “shelf” between the housing bores and it normally shouldn't see any shear force.
All internals depend on the strength of the solid pins, and the drive gear.
The outer separator plate has a slot in it that installs over the roll pin.
Normally the only force on the roll pin is stationary pressure from the outer plate wanting to turn with the feed gerotor under it.
However, sudden jolts or back pressure on the pump can strengthen that stationary pressure against the roll pin and either pull it out or shear it off.
Give the roll pin a slight tug with needle nose pliers to make sure it is good and pressed in and doesn't want to wiggle.
If there is any looseness or wiggle, pull it out and replace it now so you don't find it inside the motor later.

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Inspect the gearshaft and bushings for damage or wear

Pics 12)



Gerotor shear pins

The pics below are used parts but show the pin locations and how they look installed with a gerotor on the shaft.
Pins align with the square slot in the gerotors. 14)


Inspect both gerotor sets

Clean both gerotor sets with solvent, brake cleaner etc.

Inspect inner and outer pieces of both gerotor sets closely for cracks (most cracks are going to run vertically).
It may be hard to see cracks from a distance or when the gerotors are oily / dirty.
Cracks can happen when debris gets pinned between the inner and outer gerotors.
As they spin around and pinch something between them, the offending item tries to bind or lock up the gerotors while the geasrshaft still wants to spin.

Technically, the solid shear pins on the gearshaft should also be checked for damage if you find a cracked gerotor.
The pins should shear before that much pressure is put on the gerotors.
If aftermarket hardened pins are used instead of OEM pins, they could hold up and not shear which transfers gearshaft energy to the gerotors instead.
This is another example of parts designed to fail before others down line do.

(L - below) The outer return piece below was cracked but not all the way through. Being cracked at all is still a problem (could result in lower oil pressure).
Replace any gerotors with damaged teeth, nicks or cracks.
The problem will only get worse (gerotor will break into pieces) and oil pressure will be lower until the gerotor breaks.
(R - below) The inner feed gerotor broke into 4 separate pieces starting from the slot in the gerotor where the gearshaft pin catches it.

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Check inner to outer gerotor clearance on each gerotor set.
Each gerotor set is made with an inner and outer piece. Mesh the two pieces together (as they normally would sit in operation).
This clearance has a direct relationship to oil pump flow and oil pressure.
The wider the clearance the more the gerotors lose their ability to hold enough pressure to the outlet cavity.
They also the ability to transfer oil from the feed cavity back to the inlet cavity and recirculate oil within the oil pump.

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Inspect the Seals and O-rings

It's never a bad idea to replace seals and O-rings every time you go into the oil pump.
If they still hold tight enough and aren't damaged or compromised, they can be reused.
But they need to be inspected for cracks and deformities first.
If you used carburetor cleaner or some type solvent to soak the oil pump for disassembly, it's best to replace all the O-rings.
Replacing the pump gaskets is a no brainer.

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Inspect the oil check valve

Click Here to read more about the oil pump check valve in the Sportsterpedia.

(R) below, the check valve was stuck open with metal debris.

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Inspect the spring washer

The spring resides between the separator plates (between the feed and scavenge gerotors) and is supposed to keep pressure against both plates.
The inner plate stops at the housing bore “shelf” and doesn't push against the return gerotors.
The outer plate does push against the feed gerotors due to the spring washer behind it.
The spring washer basically keeps the flat outer plate against the flat feed gerotor surface.
(essentially stopping feed oil from entering the return side of the pump)
This should keep down cross connection of oil between the feed and return side.
However, sediment / debris that may get under the plates can kick them at an angle causing cross connection of oil.
If a piece of trash / debris gets into the supply side of the cavity and crunched between the gerotors;
It gets carried past the output cavity and spins around to the other side where the inner and outer gears come together.
The small space between the gears there won’t change.
So any debris that doesn’t get crunched up here causes the gerotor to jolt and rise / fall toward the spring.
(since there is nowhere to go against the cover or body)
The debris slides and rotates between the gerotor and the aluminum cover or body and rips into the aluminum surface on its way around.
So, the spring can be a blessing or a curse depending on how you look at it. It helps keep the pump from locking up immediately from debris.
But it also allows for the destruction of the gerotor surfaces.

Even so, the spring washer is the heart of that barrier between feed and return oil in the oil pump.
The shaft seal also stops oil from traveling up or down along the shaft especially keeping feed oil from pumping up the shaft into the cam chest.
But without the spring washer, feed oil would simply bypass the plates and circulate from the feed inlet to the return outlet of the oil pump.

Replace the spring if broken or there are any “fingers” broken off.

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HD Service Bulletin #M-711 dated June 3, 1977
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photo by Hippysmack
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drawing by Hippysmack
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photos by Hippysmack