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hippysmack [Tapered Bead Tires]
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hippysmack [Specs For Cast Wheels]
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 ===== Front Wheel Bearing Lock Nut Retainer =====
+A number of 1972 Super Glide and Sportster models were produced with the front wheel bearing lock ring (11035) installed backwards which can result in the front wheel to be loose or the bearing (9009) to lock up. The retaining ring is flat on one side and beveled on the other and used on wheel hubs from 1964-1972 to hold the bearing in the hub. Affected Sportster VINs were (3A or 4A) 39624H2 to 50531H2. Some of the motorcycles affected were caught and corrected at the factory and affected dealers were notified also. But in case some of these motorcycles were already sold to customers, the MoCo treated it as a safety defect in accordance with the National Motor Vehicle Safety laws. The dealers were to remove all suspect front wheels and inspect the retaining ring and bearing for damages at a reimbursed cost of $2.10 for labor and handling each and reinstall the retainer with the flat side toward the bearing (beveled side out). ((HD Service Bulletin #638 dated August 14, 1972 pg OC-407))
-A number of 1972 Super Glide and Sportster models were produced with the front wheel bearing lock ring (11035) installed backwards which can result in the front wheel to be loose or the bearing (9009) to lock up. The retaining ring is flat on one side and beveled on the other and used on wheel hubs from 1964-1972 to hold the bearing in the hub. Affected Sportster VINs were (3A or 4A) 39624H2 to 50531H2. Some of the motorcycles affected were caught and corrected at the factory and affected dealers were notified also. But in case some of these motorcycles were already sold to customers, the MoCo treated it as a safety defect in accordance with the National Motor Vehicle Safety laws. The dealers were to remove all suspect front wheels and inspect the retaining ring and bearing for damages at a reimbursed cost of $2.10 for labor and handling each and reinstall the retainer with the flat side toward the bearing (beveled side out). ((HD Service Bulletin #638 dated August 14, 1972 pg OC-407))
 ===== Rear Wheel Rim, Tire and Tube Flap =====
   * From September 20, 1966 through the 1969 model season, a rubber tube flap (43148-67) was installed on the rear (steel wheel only) of Sportsters before the tube and tire were installed. ((HD Service Bulletin #545A dated June 7, 1968 as revised in April of 1970 pg OC-230))
   * This new tube flap was also recommended as a retro fit to earlier model Sportsters. Consequently, the ’59-’69 FSM includes the installation of this flap with no specification of year model used on. However, this new flap did not make it into the 57-67 Parts Catalog or the 68 Supplement Catalog.  It first appeared in the 1969 supplement Catalog.
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 ===== Rear Wheel Hub Internal Parts =====
+{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:71_xlch_rear_wheel_internals_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&600|}} ((1971 rear wheel hub components by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/192374-rear-axle-spacer-and-swingarm-question-kinda-long/page4?postid=5643997#post4166723))
-{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:71_xlch_rear_wheel_internals_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&600|}} ((1971 rear wheel hub components by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=5643997#post5643997))
 ====== Axles & Wheel Bearings =====
 ===== Specs For Cast Wheels =====
 ^Front Bearing Info| ||||
 ^ Model/Year ^ Bearing ID/Type ^ OD* ^ Width* ^ AxleType/Threads/WrenchSize ^
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 **1979-1985** - 3/4" Rear Axle\\
--77 - 3/4" Axle shank w/ 1-1/16" Hex Head (with 5/16"-18 Nut w/ 1-1/16" Hex Head,
+-77 - 3/4" Axle shank, with 5/8"-18 Nut ((Iron Mike of the XLFORUM))
---- Lock Washer, Washer)((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 63))\\
+--- Lock Washer, Washer) \\
 ----- Bearing (Timken Tapered Roller)\\
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 -78 Sleeve, bearing spacer - 4.434" (without flanges) (Yellow)((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 63))\\
 -78 Sleeve, bearing spacer - 4.448" (without flanges) (White)((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 63))\\
 ===== Front Axle P/N =====
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 ^**A01**|**43883-84** \\ 1984-1987|**3/4"**|**Axle Only**. Also required are (6653) axle washer (5/8" x 1-5/16" x 3/32") \\ (7022) lock washer (5/8") \\ (7813) nut (5/8" x 18 x 9/16" x 15/16" Hex)|
 ^:::|Additional \\ Information|  ||
 ==== Drawing of '73 Front Axle ====
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 |{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:1973_front_axle_drawing_complete_by_flying_monkey.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|Drawing by Flying Monkey of the XLFORUM ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1457354&highlight=front+hub+spacers&page=2))|
+|Drawing by Flying Monkey of the XLFORUM ((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/134980-front-axle-help-needed/page2?t=1457354&highlight=front+hub+spacers&page=2))|
 ===== Front Axle Bearings =====
 ^**Factory Information - Front, Cast or Laced Rear Wheels**  ^^^^^^
 ^B01|**HD Part #**|  **1957-1963 Sportster - 1952-1956 K Models -  Model Year Front Bearing Info**  ||||
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 |:::|:::|  *=Specs taken from Timken LM11910 / LM11949 Bearing Components ||||
 |:::|47519-83A (2)|Wheel Bearing Oil Seal - Fits in hub after bearing installed ||||
 ===== Front Hub Spacers =====
 ^H01|||
 |**1953-1963 XL/XLC/XLH/XLCH** \\ **1952-1956 K Models** \\ 18" & 19" Laced Wheels \\ (chrome or aluminum)|HD PART #|**CENTER HUB BEARING SPACER** (with flange)|
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 ===== Measuring / Sizing Wheel Hub Spacers =====
+  * If your unsure of which hub spacer you need , the best way to find out is to mock up your wheel / hub and do some measuring: ((rivethog of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/151876-wheels-hub-spacers/page2?t=1638639&page=2)) \\ Wheel bearing endplay should be.004"-.018" with the axle nut torqued to 60-70 ft/lbs. ((1979-1985 Sportster FSM pgs 2-9,  2-15))
-  * If your unsure of which hub spacer you need , the best way to find out is to mock up your wheel / hub and do some measuring: ((rivethog of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1638639&page=2)) \\ Wheel bearing endplay should be.004"-.018" with the axle nut torqued to 60-70 ft/lbs. ((1979-1985 Sportster FSM pgs 2-9,  2-15))
   - Install outer races into the hub, make sure they're fully seated. Don't install any seals yet.
   - Clamp the axle in a vise vertically, threaded end up.
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   - Once you have a little end play, torque the axle nut to 60ft/lbs and check end play again. Use shims to get your desired end play (shown in the FSM).
   - When you have the correct end play you can either: use with the spacer and shims that you have in there, or have a single spacer machined to the combined length of the spacer and shims.
 ===== Front Outside Bearing Spacers =====
 ^   ^Against Left Bearing^Against Right Bearing^Year Model Info|
 ^BS01|**43636-52 Grease Retainer** \\ ID:  \\ OD:  \\ Width: |**41201-52 Bearing Locknut** \\ ID:  \\ OD:  \\ Width: |**1957-1972 Sportster \\ 1952-1956 K Models** \\ Laced Front Wheel|
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 ^BS01|**?** \\ ID:  \\ OD:  \\ Width: |**?** \\ ID:  \\ OD:  \\ Width: |**  ** Laced Front Wheel|
 ^BS01|**?** \\ ID:  \\ OD:  \\ Width: |**?** \\ ID:  \\ OD:  \\ Width: |**  ** Laced Front Wheel|
 ===== Right Side Bearing Spacer Washer (between the bearings) 1963-1978 =====
+  * On 1963-1978 XLH/XLCH Models, a bearing spacer washer HD part #41195-63 (or V-Twin part number 44-0395 ((Icefire of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/141577-size-of-the-rear-wheel-spacer-washer/page2?t=1533577&highlight=size+rear+wheel+spacer+washer&page=2))) is placed between the two bearings on the right hub (brake side). This spacer washer is reportedly not installed at the factory but is a service part for alignment where the aluminum back plate butts to the bearing inner race due to wear. The race will plow right into the soft back plate when the axle flexes ((Dr Dick https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/172161-rear-wheel-bearing-spacer?t=1844782)).
-  * On 1963-1978 XLH/XLCH Models, a bearing spacer washer HD part #41195-63 (or V-Twin part number 44-0395 ((Icefire of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1533577&highlight=size+rear+wheel+spacer+washer&page=2))) is placed between the two bearings on the right hub (brake side). This spacer washer is reportedly not installed at the factory but is a service part for alignment where the aluminum back plate butts to the bearing inner race due to wear. The race will plow right into the soft back plate when the axle flexes ((Dr Dick http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1844782)).
     * This is not a grease shield for the bearing. The grease shield used on the brake side  →'62 was no longer in use by '63 and up models.
-  * This small washer has a lip, its very thin, and is not a regular flat washer. It goes in between the right side bearings in the hub, and pushes/holds the outer bearing flush with the hub where it goes up against the inside of the brake backing plate. Others have also said it is OK to use a second one in between the backing pate and the outer bearing if you need a little clearance so the backing plate wont rub, but if you need more than those 2, you should look inside your hub for issues... ((Icefire of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1533577&highlight=size+rear+wheel+spacer+washer&page=2))
+  * This small washer has a lip, its very thin, and is not a regular flat washer. It goes in between the right side bearings in the hub, and pushes/holds the outer bearing flush with the hub where it goes up against the inside of the brake backing plate. Others have also said it is OK to use a second one in between the backing pate and the outer bearing if you need a little clearance so the backing plate wont rub, but if you need more than those 2, you should look inside your hub for issues... ((Icefire of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/141577-size-of-the-rear-wheel-spacer-washer/page2?t=1533577&highlight=size+rear+wheel+spacer+washer&page=2))
 |{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:rear_wheel_bearing_spacer_washer_-_brake_side_1_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:rear_wheel_bearing_spacer_washer_-_brake_side_2_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:rear_wheel_bearing_spacer_washer_-_brake_side_5_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|  Rear Wheel Bearing Spacer Washer (brake side) ((photos by DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2047584&page=3))  ||  App. Dims: ID -.737", OD - 1.008" (((Doc o of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1533577)), width .012" ((DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2047584&page=3))  |
+|  Rear Wheel Bearing Spacer Washer (brake side) ((photos by DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/191853-rear-drum-parts-wear-advice/page3?t=2047584&page=3))  ||  App. Dims: ID -.737", OD - 1.008" (((Doc o of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/141577-size-of-the-rear-wheel-spacer-washer?t=1533577)), width .012" ((DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/191853-rear-drum-parts-wear-advice/page3?t=2047584&page=3))  |
 |{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:rear_wheel_bearing_spacer_washer_-_brake_side_3_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:rear_wheel_bearing_spacer_washer_-_brake_side_4_by_dirtyharry68.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|  As it sits on the open bearing ((photo by DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2047584&page=3))  |  As it sits (more loosely) on the sealed bearing. ((photo by DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2047584&page=3))  |
+|  As it sits on the open bearing ((photo by DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/191853-rear-drum-parts-wear-advice/page3?t=2047584&page=3))  |  As it sits (more loosely) on the sealed bearing. ((photo by DirtyHarry68 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/191853-rear-drum-parts-wear-advice/page3?t=2047584&page=3))  |
 ====== Wheels =====
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 |    |1984-1985|19"|Front Cast 9 Spoke (black- tubeless)|43626-84((HD 1979-1985 XL Parts Catalog pg 73))|First use of tubeless tires \\ (single disc brake)|
 |    |1984-1985|19"|Front Cast 9 Spoke (silver-tubeless)|43338-83A ((HD 1979-1985 XL Parts Catalog pg 73))|(single disc brake)|
 ===== Rear =====
 See also [[techtalk:ih:wheels01#Factory Tire Information|Factory Tire Information]] \\ All rear wheels 55-78 will interchange. ((DR Dick))
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 |    |1983-1985|16"|Rear Cast 9 Spoke|41015-82A ((HD 1979-1985 XL Parts Catalog pg 63))|
 |    |1983-1985|16"|Rear Cast 9 Spoke|40983-83A ((HD 1979-1985 XL Parts Catalog pg 63))|
 ===== Tapered Bead Rims =====
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 ===== Factory Wheels Pics =====
 Click on a picture to enlarge it.
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 |{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:43008-70_rear_wheel_4_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:ih:wheels:43008-70_rear_wheel_5_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|||
 |{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:43008-70_rear_wheel_1_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:43008-70_rear_wheel_2_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:43008-70_rear_wheel_3_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|
 ====== Tires ======
+\\
 ===== Tire Fitment Chart =====
   * HD issued a bulletin in June of 1978 regarding tire fitment on 1000cc, 1200cc and 1340CC models for proper matching of tires and rims. ((HD Service Bulletin #M731 dated June 20, 1978))
     * "For the personal safety of the motorcycle rider, tires and inner tubes must be correctly matched to the wheel rims.  Mismatching tires, tubes and rims may result in damage to the tire bead during mounting or may allow the tire to slip on the rim damaging the tube and causing rapid tire deflation.  In addition, using tires and tubes other than those specified may adversely affect motorcycle stability".
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 |19"|Front Laced|XL/XLH/XLCH/XLT/XLCR \\ FX/FXE/FXS|V19 / V19|3.75-19T \\ MM90-19T|
 |:::|Front Cast 7 or 9 Spoke|:::|:::|MJ-90-19|
 ===== Factory Tire Information =====
   * Rim size and contour are cast or stamped into exterior surface of rim.
   * Example: T19x2.50 CO DOT. "T" indicates the rim conforms to 'Tire and Rim Association' standards, 19 is the nominal diameter of the rim in inches measured at the bead center diameter, 2.5 is the width of the bead seat measured in inches, CO designates the rim contour, DOT means the rim meets Dept. of Motor Vehicle Standards.  ((1979-1985 HD Sportster FSM))
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 |            |18" Rear|4.0 x 18|18 psi|||||
 ^1970-1978 ((1970-1978 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 1-1))^Wheel Size and Position^Wheel Type^Rim Contour^Tire Size (Goodyear or Yokohama) \\ Use corresponding size inner tubes^^^Recommended \\ Tire Pressure^
-|XLH-XLCH-XLT|19" Front|Cast, 7 or 9 spoke| T 19 2.15 TL ((Mike02king from the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2010145))|MJ90-19   * (XLT use Yokohama Y-980 only)||||
+|XLH-XLCH-XLT|19" Front|Cast, 7 or 9 spoke| T 19 2.15 TL ((Mike02king from the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/188763-morris-mag-wheels-on-a-73-xlch-s?t=2010145))|MJ90-19   * (XLT use Yokohama Y-980 only)||||
 |XLH-XLCH-XLT|19" Front|Laced|  |3.75-19T or MM90-19((The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM)) (Taper base bead tire size, use on taper base bead rim only)((HD Shop Dope Service Bulletin No 516A update from Oct 15, 1966))|||18 psi((HD Shop Dope Service Bulletin No 516A update from Oct 15, 1966))|
-|XLH-XLCH-XLT|18" Rear|Cast, 7 or 9 spoke|T 18 2.50 TL ((Mike02king from the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2010145)) |<del>MN90-18</del> Tire obsolete, acceptable replacement 120/90-18   * (XLT use Yokohama Y-622 only)||||
+|XLH-XLCH-XLT|18" Rear|Cast, 7 or 9 spoke|T 18 2.50 TL ((Mike02king from the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/188763-morris-mag-wheels-on-a-73-xlch-s?t=2010145)) |<del>MN90-18</del> Tire obsolete, acceptable replacement 120/90-18   * (XLT use Yokohama Y-622 only)||||
 |XLH/XLCH/XLT|18" Rear|Laced|  |4.25-18T (Taper base bead tire size, use on taper base bead rim only)((HD Shop Dope Service Bulletin No 516A update from Oct 15, 1966))|||30 psi((HD Shop Dope Service Bulletin No 516A update from Oct 15, 1966))|
 |XLH-XLCH|16" Rear (accessory)|Cast 7 spoke|  |MT90-16  / 5.00-16T / 5.10-16T||||
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 |         |19" Front|Tubeless Cast|2.15x19 TL|RRR|0.45"|100/90V-19||
 |         |16" Rear|Tubeless Cast|3.00x16 D|PPP|0.34"|130-90V-16||
 ===== Tapered Bead Tires =====
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 ==== Goodyear Taper Bead Tires (70-78) ====
 |{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:71_xlch_front_tire_mm90-19_3_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:71_xlch_front_tire_mm90-19_4_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:71_xlch_tire_4.25x18t_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|
 |{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:71_xlch_tire_4.25x18t_2_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:wheels:71_xlch_tires_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}||
 |Goodyear taper beaded tires: MM90-19 Front and 4.25x18t Rear (for taper bead rims only) ((photos courtesy of The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM))|||
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