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| - | ====== FACTORY CARBURETORS Installed on Sportsters 1957 - 2006 ====== | + | ====== Aftermarket Carburetors Installed on Sportsters 1957 - 2006 ====== |
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| - | ===== Carbs Used on Iron Head Sportsters from 1957-1985 by Serial / Model Number ===== | ||
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| - | ^Carburetor Serial# \\ or Carb Model#^Year Model Sportster^ | ||
| - | |**Linkert DC** \\ **(27155-57) was the first Sportster carburetor then replaced with (27155-57A) both introduced for 1957-1959 Sportsters** ((1952-1959 HD Spare Parts Catalog pg 16))|| | ||
| - | |DC-1|1957-1958 Sportster Early Style ((http://www.classic-motorcycle-build.com/linkert-dc-carb.html))| | ||
| - | |DC-1L|1959-1960 Sportster ((http://www.classic-motorcycle-build.com/linkert-dc-carb.html)) | | ||
| - | |DC-1M|1959-1960 Sportster ((http://www.classic-motorcycle-build.com/linkert-dc-carb.html))| | ||
| - | |DC-2|1959-65 Servicar (smaller venturi, opposite float bowl)((http://www.classic-motorcycle-build.com/linkert-dc-carb.html))| | ||
| - | |DC-6|1961 Sportster XLH and XLCH ((http://www.classic-motorcycle-build.com/linkert-dc-carb.html))| | ||
| - | |DC-7|1966 Big-Twin FL and FLH (larger venturi) ((http://www.classic-motorcycle-build.com/linkert-dc-carb.html))| | ||
| - | |DC-10|1962 and mid-63 Sportster XLH and XLCH ((http://www.classic-motorcycle-build.com/linkert-dc-carb.html))| | ||
| - | |DC-12|1966 Big-Twin FL and FLH mid-1963 1964 1965 Sportster XLH and XLCH ((http://www.classic-motorcycle-build.com/linkert-dc-carb.html))| | ||
| - | |**Tillotson HD (1966-1971)**|| | ||
| - | |Mod HD-1A \\ Mod HD-1B|Pre 1966 XLCH \\ 1966 and later XLCH| | ||
| - | |27162-66B((Shop Dope Vol 4 Service Bulletin No 571 May 21, 1968)) \\ HD - 1BC \\ HD - 1C|Late '68 Sportsters (new check ball valve added to the accel pump passage)) ((Shop Dope Vol 4 Service Bulletin No 571 May 21, 1968)) | | ||
| - | |27155-66RA| (XLR) (27823-66R)| | ||
| - | |27155-70R| (XR) (27823-66R)| | ||
| - | |**Bendix / Zenith I6P12 (1972-Early 1976)**|| | ||
| - | |27155-72 ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1981918))|1972-| | ||
| - | |27155-72A ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1981918))|1972-Early 1975| | ||
| - | |27155-72B(( HD Sportster Parts Catalog (99451-78B) ))|1975-Early 1976| | ||
| - | |**Mikuni** (**XR-750 Racing Engines Only**)|| | ||
| - | |VM-36-1 \\ VM-36-4 \\ VM36/39|1972-1980 XR-750 / 36 mm with a round slide ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2006195&page=3))((1972-2003 HD XR-750 Service Manual pg 39))| | ||
| - | |TM38-85 (47mm spigot dia.) \\ TM38-86 (43mm spigot dia.) \\ TM38-85 (47mm spigot dia.) \\ TM38-86 (43mm spigot dia.)|1989-2003 XR-750 / 38 mm with a flat slide((1972-2003 HD XR-750 Service Manual pg 39))| | ||
| - | |**Keihin** butterfly (non-CV)(Late 1976-1987)|| | ||
| - | |27153-76 ((HD Sportster Parts Catalog XLH/XLCH 99451-78B))|Late 1976 XLH, XLCH| | ||
| - | |27153-77 ((HD Sportster Parts Catalog XLH/XLCH 99451-78B))|1977-1978 XLH, XLCH| | ||
| - | |27469-78A \\ B83A ((1979 Harley Davidson Sportster Parts Catalog))|1979 XL, XLCH, XLS| | ||
| - | |27469-80A \\ B83D ((1979-1985 HD XL Parts Catalog pg 23))|1980 XL, XLS| | ||
| - | |27469-81A \\ B83F ((1979-1985 HD XL Parts Catalog pg 25))|1981-Early 1982 XL, XLS| | ||
| - | |27469-82 \\ B83G ((1979-1985 HD XL Parts Catalog pg 25))|Late 1982 XL, XLS| | ||
| - | |27469-83C \\ B83K ((1979-1985 HD XL Parts Catalog pg 27))|1983-1985 XL, XLS, XLX| | ||
| - | |27148-77 \\ B75A ((1977 HD XLCR Parts Catalog pg 57))|1977-1978 XLCR 1000| | ||
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| - | ===== Keihin Carbs Used on Evo Sportsters from 1986-2006 by Serial Number ===== | ||
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| - | * All data compiled from HD Sportster Parts Catalogs unless otherwise noted | ||
| - | * All CV models come equipped with accelerator pump unless noted. | ||
| - | * The Serial Number on CV carbs is labeled on the adjacent side to the accelerator pump linkage | ||
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| - | | **Keihin non-CV 1986 - 1987** |||| | ||
| - | ^Carburetor \\ Serial Number ^Installed On \\ All Models ||| | ||
| - | |27501-86A (B83H|(86-87) - XLH 883 All Models Domestic and California||| | ||
| - | |27502-86B (B83H)|(86-87) - XLH 1100 All Models Domestic and California||| | ||
| - | | **Keihin CV 1988 - 2006** |||| | ||
| - | ^Carburetor \\ Serial Number ^ Installed On \\ Domestic models \\ Year - Model ^ Installed On \\ California models \\ Year - Model ^ Installed On \\ Export models \\ Year - Model ^ | ||
| - | |27031-95| | |(95) - HDI 883 Deluxe \\ (95-97) - HDI 883, 883 Hug \\ (99-2000) - HDI 883, 883 Hug, 883C \\ (01) - Aust 883, 883 Hug, 883C| | ||
| - | |27031-95A| | |(98) - HDI 883, 883 Hug \\ (02-03) - Aust 883, 883 Hug, 883C, 883R| | ||
| - | |27076-95| | |(95-97)- HDI 1200 \\ (96-97) - HDI 1200C, 1200S \\ (99-01) - HDI 1200, 1200C \\ (01) - Aust, Eng, Japan 1200, 1200C| | ||
| - | |27076-95A | | |(02-03) - HDI, Aust, Eng, Japan 1200, 1200C| | ||
| - | |27465-01| | |(01) - HDI, Eng, Japan 883, 883 Hug, 883C| | ||
| - | |27465-01A| | |(02-03) - HDI, Eng, Japan 883, 883 Hug, 883C, 883R| | ||
| - | |27465-04| | |(04-06) - HDI 883, 883C \\ (05-06) - 883L, 883R| | ||
| - | |27076-95A| | |(98) - HDI 1200, 1200C| | ||
| - | |27480-97|(97) - 1200, 1200C, 1200S \\ (99-01) - 1200, 1200C| | | | ||
| - | |27480-97A|(98) - 1200, 1200C \\ (02-03) - 1200, 1200C| | | | ||
| - | |27486-92| |(92-Early 93) - 1200| | | ||
| - | |27486-92A| |(93-94) - 1200| | | ||
| - | |27486-92B| |(95) - 1200| | | ||
| - | |27487-92|(92-94) - 1200| | | | ||
| - | |27487-92A|(95) - 1200| | | | ||
| - | |27488-92| |(92-Early 93) - 883| | | ||
| - | |27488-92A| |(Late 93-94) - 883| | | ||
| - | |27488-92B| |(95) - 883| | | ||
| - | |27489-92|(92-94) - 883 All Models| | | | ||
| - | |27489-92A|(95) 883 All Models| | | | ||
| - | |27490-96|(96-97) - 883, 883 Hug \\ (99-01) - 883, 883 Hug, 883C| | | | ||
| - | |27490-96A|(98) - 883, 883 Hug \\ (Late 98) - 883C \\ (02-03) - 883, 883 Hug, 883C, 883R| | | | ||
| - | |27490-04|(04-06) - 883, 883C \\ (05-06) - 883L, 883R| | | | ||
| - | |27491-89 \\ No Accel Pump| | |(89-90) - Swiss 1200| | ||
| - | |27491-96|(96) - 1200, 1200C, 1200S| | | | ||
| - | |27492-89 \\ No Accel Pump| | |89-90) - Swiss 883 All Models| | ||
| - | |27495-96| |(96-97)- 883, 883 Hug \\ (99-01) - 883, 883 Hug, 883C| | | ||
| - | |27495-96A| |(98) - 883, 883 Hug \\ (Late 98) - 883C \\ (02-03) - 883, 883 Hug, 883C, 883R| | | ||
| - | |27495-04| |(04-05) - 883, 883C \\ (05) - 883L, 883R| | | ||
| - | |27498-96| |(96-97) - 1200, 1200C, 1200S \\ (99-01) - 1200, 1200C| | | ||
| - | |27498-96A| |(98) - 1200, 1200C \\ (02-03) - 1200, 1200C| | | ||
| - | |27501-88 \\ No Accel Pump|(88-90) - 883 All Models| |(89-90) - HDI 883 All Models| | ||
| - | |27501-89|(89-90) - 883 All Models \\ (90) - 1200| | | | ||
| - | |27501-89A|(91) - All Models| | | | ||
| - | |27502-88 \\ No Accel Pump|(88-90) - 1200| |(89-90) - HDI 1200| | ||
| - | |27502-89|(89) - 1200| | | | ||
| - | |27503-88 \\ No Accel Pump| |(88) - 1200| | | ||
| - | |27503-88A| |(89-90) - 1200| | | ||
| - | |27503-88B| |(91) - All Models|(91) - Swiss All Models| | ||
| - | |27503-92| | |(92) - HDI & Swiss All Models| | ||
| - | |27503-92A| | |(93-94) - HDI & Swiss - All Models| | ||
| - | |27503-92B| | |(95)- Swiss All Models| | ||
| - | |27504-88 \\ No Acell Pump| |(88) - 883 All Models| | | ||
| - | |27504-88A| |(89-90) - 1200| | | ||
| - | |27731-98|(99-01) - 1200S| | | | ||
| - | |27731-98A)|(98) - 1200S \\ (02-03) - 1200S| | | | ||
| - | |27731-04|(04-06) - 1200C, 1200R| | | | ||
| - | |27732-98| |(99-01) - 1200S| | | ||
| - | |27732-98A| |(98) - 1200S \ (02-03) - 1200S| | | ||
| - | |27732-04| |(04-06) - 1200C, 1200R| | | ||
| - | |27733-98| | |(98) - Swiss 1200S| | ||
| - | |27734-98| | |(98-2000) - HDI 1200S| | ||
| - | |27749-01| | |(01) - HDI, Aust, Eng, Japan 1200S| | ||
| - | |27749-01A| | |(02-03) - HDI, Aust, Eng, Japan 1200S| | ||
| - | |27749-04| | |(04-06) - HDI 1200C,1200R| | ||
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| ===== Keihin BD (Screaming Eagle 40mm Kit) ===== | ===== Keihin BD (Screaming Eagle 40mm Kit) ===== | ||
| + | ===== Sub Documents ===== | ||
| - | * Used in the Screaming Eagle Package line from HD as an Evolution XLH HI-FLO Carburetor & Air Cleaner. | + | * Lectron Carburetor Kit (27154-78), 1974-E1978 FX, FXS |
| - | * Adjustable Accelerator Pump stroke | + | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01w|Basic Keihin BD (Screaming Eagle) Information]] |
| - | * Incorporated a special intake manifold to carb spacer that had to be drilled and tapped (1/4 x 28) in the side for included Voes connection adapter | + | |
| - | * Required a 1987 replacement style intake manifold for 1988 and up models | + | |
| - | * Required possible grinding of the right rear corner of the front cylinder head, due to interference with the carburetor throttle pulley and cable guides, for proper clearance ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132922)) | + | |
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| - | ^Carb #27001-88^^^^^^ | + | |
| - | ^Slow Jet Part No. ^Size (mm) ^Intermediate Air / Fuel Part No. ^Size ^Main Jet ^Size | | + | |
| - | |27383-88 |42 |27113-87 |Blank* |27106-85 |1.30 | | + | |
| - | |27302-84 |50 |27109-87 |55 |27107-85 |1.35 | | + | |
| - | |27329-83 |52 |27172-89 |60* |27149-85 |1.40 | | + | |
| - | |27284-85 |55 |27110-87 |80 |27151-85 |1.45 | | + | |
| - | |27310-85 |58 |27111-87 |1.00 |27150-85 |1.50 | | + | |
| - | |27318-85 |60 |27112-87 |1.20 |27108-87 |1.60*| | + | |
| - | |27283-85 |62 |27173-89 |1.70 |27119-88 |1.65 | | + | |
| - | |27896-79 |65 | | |27134-89 |1.70 | | + | |
| - | |27894-78 |68*| | + | |
| - | |27895-87 |70 | | + | |
| - | |27897-78 |72 | | + | |
| - | ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132922)) | + | |
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| - | ==== Accelerator Pump ==== | + | |
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| - | * **Accelerator pump rod length**: A number of Screaming Eagle carb kits (91731-85A), packaged during March of 1988 (3/88 date code), contained carburetors with accelerator pump rods that were too short. The incorrect pump rods were only 2.35" long, end to end, and completely disabled the accelerator pump and caused the engine to stumble upon fast acceleration. The correct length pump rod (27374-88) is 2.55". ((HD Service Bulletin #M-961 dated April 8, 1988)) | + | |
| - | * Dealers were to check their parts stock and replace any pump rods that measured short and also check the pump rod length on any motorcycles that exhibited a stumble upon acceleration. | + | |
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| - | ==== Breather Options ==== | + | |
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| - | |{{techtalk:ref:carb:breather_options_for_mikuni_by_c53.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:carb:breather_options_1_for_mikuni_by_jordan1200.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:carb:breather_options_2_for_mikuni_by_jordan1200.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | |
| - | |((photo by c53 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14060&page=16))|The horseshoe pipe system over the top of the carb allows for easy access to the mixture screw.((photos by jordan1200 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14060&page=16))|| | + | |
| - | ====== Aftermarket Carburetors ====== | + | ====== Aftermarket Carburetors and Upgrades ====== |
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| - | ====== Mikuni Aftermarket Carbs and Upgrades ====== | + | ====== Mikuni Carbs ====== |
| ===== Sub Documents ===== | ===== Sub Documents ===== | ||
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| * [[techtalk:ref:carb01c|Mikuni HSR Function and Tuning]] | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01c|Mikuni HSR Function and Tuning]] | ||
| * [[techtalk:ref:carb01d|Choke Relocation on a Mikuni HSR]] | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01d|Choke Relocation on a Mikuni HSR]] | ||
| + | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01e|Mikuni HSR42 - Mounting]] | ||
| **VM Series**: \\ | **VM Series**: \\ | ||
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| **Solex**: \\ | **Solex**: \\ | ||
| * [[techtalk:ref:carb01e|Mikuni Solex Pics]] | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01e|Mikuni Solex Pics]] | ||
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| Other than exact replacement OEM carburetors, all Mikuni aftermarket carburetors and tuning components are sold "As Is" for off road / racing use only. ((http://www.mikunipower.com/VM01.htm)) \\ | Other than exact replacement OEM carburetors, all Mikuni aftermarket carburetors and tuning components are sold "As Is" for off road / racing use only. ((http://www.mikunipower.com/VM01.htm)) \\ | ||
| They are not intended or approved for use on vehicles operated on public roads or in locations where applicable engine tampering and anti-pollution laws apply. \\ | They are not intended or approved for use on vehicles operated on public roads or in locations where applicable engine tampering and anti-pollution laws apply. \\ | ||
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| + | **Counterfeit Mikuni Alert**!!: | ||
| There are plenty of Mikuni and Keihin carburetors in the market that are not authentic. ((http://www.sudco.com/genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html)) \\ | There are plenty of Mikuni and Keihin carburetors in the market that are not authentic. ((http://www.sudco.com/genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html)) \\ | ||
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| If you're not sure if it's a genuine carburetor, the Sudco International site has a web page with pics of genuine and fake carbs. \\ | If you're not sure if it's a genuine carburetor, the Sudco International site has a web page with pics of genuine and fake carbs. \\ | ||
| Follow [[http://www.sudco.com/genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html|this link]] or you can call them directly to verify a seller. ((Sudco International Corp. 2410 S. Sequoia Drive Compton, CA 90220 Tel.(310) 637-8330 • Fax (310) 637-8331)) \\ | Follow [[http://www.sudco.com/genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html|this link]] or you can call them directly to verify a seller. ((Sudco International Corp. 2410 S. Sequoia Drive Compton, CA 90220 Tel.(310) 637-8330 • Fax (310) 637-8331)) \\ | ||
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| + | Click on the pic to enlarge. \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:counterfeit_mikuni_pic_by_aswracing.jpg?direct&800|}} ((photo by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/199942-counterfeit-mikuni-carbs#post5829469)) \\ | ||
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| + | **Mikuni vs CV-40**: \\ | ||
| + | |Mikuni HSR42 on a relatively low powered bike: \\ Not a whole lot. Some, but not a lot.((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/160818-1250-build-bottom-to-top/page27?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))|Mikuni HSR42 \\ Now let's bump the power up a little bit to see what Mikuni brings to \\ the party: Still not much. Course, this isn't a whole lot stronger bike. ((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/160818-1250-build-bottom-to-top/page27?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))| | ||
| + | |{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_1_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_2_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}| | ||
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| + | |Mikuni HSR42 \\ OK, now let's put it on a bit stronger bike: \\ Holy cow, made a pretty big difference at this power level. ((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/160818-1250-build-bottom-to-top/page27?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))|Mikuni HSR45 \\ Now let's step it up some more: Shazam. \\ It's worth nearly 11hp on a 111hp bike! ((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/160818-1250-build-bottom-to-top/page27?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))| | ||
| + | |{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_3_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_4_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}| | ||
| ==== Mikuni Manuals and Other Helpful Links ==== | ==== Mikuni Manuals and Other Helpful Links ==== | ||
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| * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm-UVTPjRbo|IronMick's VM-38 Startup Video]] | * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm-UVTPjRbo|IronMick's VM-38 Startup Video]] | ||
| - | ====== S&S Aftermarket Carbs and Upgrades ====== | + | ====== S&S Carbs ====== |
| ===== Sub Documents ===== | ===== Sub Documents ===== | ||
| * [[techtalk:ref:carb01p|Testing an S&S Intake Manifold Spacer]] | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01p|Testing an S&S Intake Manifold Spacer]] | ||
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| ===== S&S Super B Series ===== | ===== S&S Super B Series ===== | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_b_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1786621&page=4)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_b_by_shgrier.jpg?direct&300|}}((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074303)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_b_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166320-need-pics-of-carbs/page4?t=1786621&page=4)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_b_by_shgrier.jpg?direct&300|}}((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197633-the-b-s-knees?t=2074303)) \\ |
| **Throttle shaft leak repair**. \\ | **Throttle shaft leak repair**. \\ | ||
| - | Counter-bore each side a few thousandths less than the O-ring thickness so it sits a little proud. ((Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074290)) \\ | + | Counter-bore each side a few thousandths less than the O-ring thickness so it sits a little proud. ((Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197624-s-s-super-b-installation-setup-did-i-do-this-right?t=2074290)) \\ |
| These are 1/4" x 3/8" O-rings from a HF&T kit. \\ Then use a couple 1/4" ID SS washers with a good synthetic grease like Super-Lube. \\ | These are 1/4" x 3/8" O-rings from a HF&T kit. \\ Then use a couple 1/4" ID SS washers with a good synthetic grease like Super-Lube. \\ | ||
| The return spring is on one side and you position the throttle lever on the other side. \\ | The return spring is on one side and you position the throttle lever on the other side. \\ | ||
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| This was done on a milling machine with a mold ejection pin that fit perfectly. \\ | This was done on a milling machine with a mold ejection pin that fit perfectly. \\ | ||
| To keep center, the pin was put in the spindle collet with an indicator as a confirmation of position after having moved the Z axis. \\ | To keep center, the pin was put in the spindle collet with an indicator as a confirmation of position after having moved the Z axis. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_1_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074290)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_2_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074290)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_3_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074290)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_1_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197624-s-s-super-b-installation-setup-did-i-do-this-right?t=2074290)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_2_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197624-s-s-super-b-installation-setup-did-i-do-this-right?t=2074290)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_3_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197624-s-s-super-b-installation-setup-did-i-do-this-right?t=2074290)) \\ |
| ===== S&S Super E Series ===== | ===== S&S Super E Series ===== | ||
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| **Removing the accelerator pump**. \\ | **Removing the accelerator pump**. \\ | ||
| The spring inside holds the diaphragm up until the rod pushes it down like a bellows. \\ | The spring inside holds the diaphragm up until the rod pushes it down like a bellows. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_e_carb_by_samppa.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by samppa of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=297424)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_accelerator_pump_by_horse.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Horse of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1162895)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_e_carb_by_samppa.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by samppa of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/57212-s-s-super-e-question?threadid=297424)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_accelerator_pump_by_horse.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Horse of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/119637-super-e-shorty-accelerator-pump-not-responding-to-throttle?t=1162895)) \\ |
| + | |||
| + | ==== Kmotor Super E (copy?) ==== | ||
| + | This is some of the wording of the advertisement on Ebay. ((https://www.ebay.com/itm/153007477314?ul_noapp=true)) \\ | ||
| + | <blockquote>This carb is billed as "New 11-0420 Carburetor Super E Shorty Carburetor Big Twin or Sportster Carb". \\ | ||
| + | US $64.97/ea. "1 year warranty. This is a brand new, high quality direct fit __OE style replacement part__". \\ | ||
| + | The Super E are butterfly type carbs with fully adjustable idle mixture screws and changeable intermediate and main jets. \\ | ||
| + | The idle mixture screw is positioned and angled for easy accessibility. Even with 5 gallon gas tanks, adjustments are not a problem. \\ | ||
| + | The Super E has a 1-7/8in. (47.6mm) throat at the butterfly and is identified by an E cast into the throttle linkage side of the carb body. \\ | ||
| + | All Super series carburetors use a special enrichment device instead of a choke for starting. This leaves the bore of the carburetor unobstructed for greater air flow. \\ | ||
| + | The Super E enrichment device is activated by a variable position lever attached to the air cleaner backplate. \\ | ||
| + | By simply adjusting the lever, starting and warm-ups are made easy and foolproof. </blockquote> \\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | It's actually made by "Kmotor" out of China if you read the fine print on the bottom of the add. \\ | ||
| + | But the wording in the add makes it sound like the S&S Super E. There is no data suggesting that this isn't a good carburetor. \\ | ||
| + | It may actually be a cheaper alternative. \\ | ||
| + | However, it is something to take into account if your intention is indeed to buy an S&S model. \\ | ||
| + | Here is the carburetor: | ||
| + | | **Kmotor Super E** next to a Keihin butterfly ((photo by mickey t of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/196994-this-is-the-no-name-carb-i-purchased-n-hoping-it-will-work-dor-this-season?t=2073560&highlight=keihin)) | No S&S markings ((photo by mickey t of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/196994-this-is-the-no-name-carb-i-purchased-n-hoping-it-will-work-dor-this-season?t=2073560&highlight=keihin)) | | ||
| + | |{{:techtalk:ref:carb:fake_super_e_pic_1_by_mickey_t.jpg?direct&250|}}| {{:techtalk:ref:carb:fake_super_e_pic_2_by_mickey_t.jpg?direct&250|}}| | ||
| ===== S&S G, F and L Series ===== | ===== S&S G, F and L Series ===== | ||
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| * [[techtalk:ref:carb01v|S&S G, F and L Series General Information and Pics]] | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01v|S&S G, F and L Series General Information and Pics]] | ||
| + | \\ | ||
| + | ====== Rivera SU Carbs ====== | ||
| + | ==== Sub Documents ==== | ||
| + | * Click here for instructions for {{ pdf-bulletin:su_intimidator_i-ii_carb_instructions.pdf |Eliminator I & II carbs in PDF}}. | ||
| + | * Same instructions above as pics [[techtalk:ref:carb01x|Eliminator I & II carbs]] | ||
| + | * Here are some more {{ pdf-bulletin:su_carb_instructions.pdf |Instructions for SU carbs}}. | ||
| + | \\ | ||
| ====== 1970s Era- Lake Injector ====== | ====== 1970s Era- Lake Injector ====== | ||
| ===== Sub Documents ===== | ===== Sub Documents ===== | ||
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| {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_1_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_1_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_2_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_3_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_4_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_2_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166320-need-pics-of-carbs/page4?t=1786621&page=4)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_3_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166320-need-pics-of-carbs/page4?t=1786621&page=4)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_4_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166320-need-pics-of-carbs/page4?t=1786621&page=4)) \\ |
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| ===== Weber ===== | ===== Weber ===== | ||
| - | The Weber is a very tunable carb for different motors with a nearly infinite set of jets, emulsion tubes, chokes, etc. ((ericfreeman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1206675)) \\ | + | The Weber is a very tunable carb for different motors with a nearly infinite set of jets, emulsion tubes, chokes, etc. ((ericfreeman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?t=1206675)) \\ |
| The angled manifold that swings the carb towards the front of the bike, giving you leg room to tuck in behind the manifold / carb. \\ | The angled manifold that swings the carb towards the front of the bike, giving you leg room to tuck in behind the manifold / carb. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_4_by_chief.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3488892&postcount=7)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_4_by_chief.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?postcount=7#post2583166)) |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_dcoe_40_pic_2_by_ericfreeman.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ericfreeman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1206675)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_dcoe_40_pic_2_by_ericfreeman.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ericfreeman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?t=1206675)) |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_dcoe_40_pic_1_by_ericfreeman.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ericfreeman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1206675)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_dcoe_40_pic_1_by_ericfreeman.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ericfreeman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?t=1206675)) \\ |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3488892&postcount=7)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?postcount=7#post2583166)) |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3488892&postcount=7)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?postcount=7#post2583166)) |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_3_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3488892&postcount=7)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_3_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?postcount=7#post2583166)) \\ |
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