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-====== REF: Carburetor, Intake Manifold & Exhaust ====== 
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-====== Mikuni Aftermarket Carbs and Upgrades ====== 
-Other than exact replacement OEM carburetors,​ all Mikuni aftermarket carburetors and tuning components are sold "As Is" for off road / racing use only. ((http://​www.mikunipower.com/​VM01.htm)) \\ 
-They are not intended or approved for use on vehicles operated on public roads or in locations where applicable engine tampering and anti-pollution laws apply. \\ 
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-There are plenty of Mikuni and Keihin carburetors in the market that are not authentic. ((http://​www.sudco.com/​genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html)) \\ 
-They'​re not safe to use and will cause many problems to your bike. \\ 
-If you're not sure if it's a genuine carburetor, the Sudco International site has a web page with pics of genuine and fake carbs. \\ 
-Follow [[http://​www.sudco.com/​genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html|this link]] or you can call them directly to verify a seller. ((Sudco International Corp. 2410 S. Sequoia Drive Compton, CA 90220 Tel.(310) 637-8330 • Fax (310) 637-8331)) \\ 
-Also, below the series models below are notes from Sudco on fake vs genuine carbs. \\ 
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-===== Sub Documents ===== 
-**HSR Series**: \\ 
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-  * [[techtalk:​ref:​carb02b|Basic Mikuni HSR Information]] 
-  * [[techtalk:​ref:​carb02a|Choke Relocation on a Mikuni HSR]] 
-  * [[techtalk:​ref:​carb02e|Rebuilding a Mikuni HSR42]] 
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-**VM Series**: \\ 
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-===== VM Series ===== 
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-===== Sub Documents ===== 
-  * [[techtalk:​ref:​carb02j|Function and Tuning of a Mikuni VM-38-9]] 
-  * [[techtalk:​ref:​carb02k|Mounting a Mikuni VM-38]] 
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-These are early VM series round slide Mikunis - 34, 36, or 38 MM \\ 
-Only Mikuni round slide carbs are designated as VM. These are available in different sizes such as VM29, VM34, VM38, VM40 etc. ((piniongear of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1675923&​page=2)) \\ 
-HS and HSR carbs are not round slide. The RS is not a round slide. The TM and TMS/TMX are not a round slide. \\ 
-This is a very old school set up for a Sportster. Properly set up, this carb gets good mileage and runs well. ((nemosengineer@yahoo.com of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=266722)) \\ 
-**Note Safety Tip**: Cut a piece of bicycle inner tube to stretch over the carb-body and slide-cap to stop the cap from un-screwing. \\ 
-This will keep the slide and needle inside the carb on the freeway. \\ 
-You can call Sudco to see what they recommend for jetting after you identify which model Mikuni VM you have. \\ 
-Sudco will get you close. You can also get a little tool kit they sell with the jet wrench'​s and don't forget the Mikuni pocket tuner. \\ 
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-Mikuni lists the following Vintage Carb Kits: ((piniongear of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=765846&​page=8)) \\ 
-001-200....HDS-101/​38mm.... Sportster/​Shovelhead \\ 
-001-204....HDS-101A/​40mm.... Sportster/​Shovelhead \\ 
-001-202....HDS-101B/​44mm.... Sportster/​Shovelhead \\ 
-So any of these 3 sizes will work. 
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-**Considerations When Buying**: \\ 
-The Mikuni will stick out a bit further than other carbs, mainly because of the adapter. \\ 
-On a Sportster, you need to buy a throttle cable with the carb that has a 90° elbow fitting into the carb top. \\ 
-This is needed to be able to run the throttle cable under the gas tank. \\ 
-A new manifold is required along with a carb adapter or rubber boot and air cleaner mount. \\ 
-Several ways are described in the mounting article above. \\ 
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-The correct version of the VM38 for an ironhead Sportster is the VM38-9. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1814834&​page=2)) ((piniongear of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=765846&​page=3)) ((piniongear of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=765846&​page=4)) \\ 
-The VM38-"​9"​ was setup and extensively tested by Jerry Branch for the stock Sportster engine using flow bench tech for the time. ((simeli of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1636803&​page=2)) \\ 
-It is going to be hard to find that you are going to be able to improve on it as supplied. Unless you are running a stroker or highly modified heads and cams. \\ 
-Then the as supplied needles and jets are going to be your best option. Clean it out and replace with the normal "​9"​ needles and jets. \\ 
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-There were a bunch of different VM's (round slide) from 16MM on up to 44MM with the vast majority of them designed for 2 cycle engines. \\ 
-The VM-38 Standard Right body may be the same for all of the 38MM units. \\ 
-However, all the particulars have to be correct for the VM38-9. Below is the list of all the things that make it a "​9"​. ((simeli of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1675923)) \\ 
-  * Bore Size : 38mm 
-  * Spigot Mount : 43mm 
-  * Main Jet : 4/042 #330 
-  * Pilot Jet : VM22/210 #30 
-  * Needle Jet : #166 Q-2 
-  * Throttle Valve : VM38/24 2.5 
-  * Jet Needle : 6DP1 (the clip is set in the middle notch. That is the third notch from the top or bottom.) 
-  * Needle Valve VM34/39 3.3 
-  * Air Jet : 2.0 for Sportster (002-165) \\ 0.5 (BS30/97) for BTs but reportedly works fine on a Sportster. \\ Sudco'​s website shows a 0.5 for the VM38-9 but the VM-38 manual says the 2.0 
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-This particular model is a VM-38mm. It has no numbers on it other than "​Mikuni KOGYO"​. \\ 
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​38mm_mikuni_vm_pic_1_by_sturgmachinist.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by sturgmachinist of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showpost.php?​p=1361935&​postcount=1)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​38mm_mikuni_vm_pic_2_by_sturgmachinist.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by sturgmachinist of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showpost.php?​p=1361935&​postcount=1)) \\ 
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-Here is another VM-38. \\ 
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_1_by_donw.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by DonW of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showpost.php?​p=3984744&​postcount=1)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_2_by_donw.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by DonW of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showpost.php?​p=3984744&​postcount=1)) \\ 
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-Mikuni VM-38 with solid mount adapter to run on a shovelhead. \\ 
-The adapter is a tight press fit with three set screws. There are threads in the adapter to run the bolts into. \\ 
-And there is a groove /O-ring inside the aluminum adapter bore. \\ 
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_1_by_claysbury.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by claysbury of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1814834)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_2_by_claysbury.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by claysbury of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1814834)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_3_by_claysbury.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by claysbury of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1814834)) \\ 
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-This one is stamped "​X66"​ with the X above the 66 and one of the 6's is sideways. It also has 38F 9 on the back side just below the choke\enricher. \\ 
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_1_by_asasial.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by asasial of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1151844)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_2_by_asasial.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by asasial of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1151844)) \\ 
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-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_3_by_asasial.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by asasial of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1151844)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_4_by_asasial.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by asasial of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1151844)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​vm-38_pic_5_by_asasial.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by asasial of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1151844)) \\ 
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-**Fake vs Genuine Mikuni VM**: \\ 
-The fake VM carburetor has the "​Minkui"​ imprinted on the top and side of the carburetor. \\ 
-On a genuine carburetor you will find the "​Mikuni"​ logo. \\ 
-Also you will notice that the fake carburetor doesn'​t have the "NOT FOR AIRCRAFT USE" decal and the anchor plates. \\ 
-The way the fake carburetor was designed is completely different from the genuine one. There are extra openings and attachments. \\ 
-Also see this [[http://​www.sudco.com/​genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html|Sudco International]] web page for pics of fake vs genuine VM carburetors. \\ 
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-===== HS-40 ===== 
-The HS40 is a Flat slide Mikuni Carb. \\ 
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-The stamping on mouth of this one reads "T40 6W" . \\ 
-The jets included in it are in the pic to the right. \\ 
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​mikuni_hs-40_carb_by_batousaii.jpg?​direct&​250|}} ((photo by Batousaii of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1632427)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​carb:​mikuni_hs-40_jets_by_batousaii.jpg?​direct&​250|}} ((photo by Batousaii of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1632427)) \\ 
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-====== Mikuni Manuals and Other Helpful Links ====== 
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-  * [[http://​www.mikunipower.com/​HSR01.htm|Mikuni website (HSR page)]] 
-  * [[http://​www.mikuni.com/​fs-carburetor.html|HSR Installation Guide]] 
-  * [[http://​www.mikuni.com/​fs-performance_guide.html|Performance Guide]] includes: 
-    * Air Cleaner Basics, Exhaust System Basics, Cam Basics and Ignition Basics 
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-  * [[http://​www.mikunipower.com/​Manuals/​HSR_SportsterBuellInstallation.pdf|Sportster / Buell Installation Instructions PDF]] 
-  * [[http://​www.mikunipower.com/​Manuals/​HSR42-48_Manual.pdf|HSR42/​45/​48 Tuning Manual PDF]] 
-  * [[http://​www.mikuni.com/​pdf/​how_to_choke_cable.pdf|HSR Choke Cable Installation Tips]] 
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-  * [[http://​www.mikunipower.com/​Manuals/​HS40_Manual.pdf|HS40 Tuning Manual & Parts List PDF]] 
-  * [[http://​www.mikunipower.com/​Manuals/​HS40_Manual.pdf|HS40 Tuning Manual PDF]] 
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-  * [[http://​www.mikunipower.com/​VM01.htm|Mikuni website (VM page)]] 
-  * [[http://​www.mikunipower.com/​Manuals/​VM_Manual.pdf|VM "Round Slide" Tuning Manual]] 
-  * [[http://​www.mikunipower.com/​Manuals/​VM26_Rebuild_Kit.pdf| Rebuild Kit VM26-606 PDF]] 
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-  * [[http://​www.mikunipower.com/​Manuals/​HSR_PATInstallation.pdf| ​ PAT Upgrade Kit Installation Instructions PDF]] 
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-  * [[https://​www.jetsrus.com/​a_jets_by_carburetor_type/​jets_mikuni_HSR_series.htm|Genuine Mikuni jets for HSR series carbs]] 
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-Video: \\ 
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-  * [[https://​www.youtube.com/​watch?​v=xm-UVTPjRbo|IronMick'​s VM-38 Startup Video]] 
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