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techtalk:ref:elec16 [2020/06/19 23:22]
hippysmack [Single Phase Replacement]
techtalk:ref:elec16 [2024/01/13 21:52] (current)
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 ===== Charging System Kits ===== ===== Charging System Kits =====
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 +===== Stator =====
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 +|  Cycle Electric three phase stator on 2003 XL1200 ((photo by DonChicago of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/​148266-building-a-90-inch-sledge-hammer/​page25?​t=1610587&​page=25)) ​ |  Cycle Electric CE9100 single phase stator on 1998 1250S ((photos by Hippysmack))
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​cycle_electric_stator_ce-6012_by_donchicago48.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
 ==== Replacement Sportster Alternator Kits ==== ==== Replacement Sportster Alternator Kits ====
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 They have a full two year guarantee and are 100% American made.// ​ \\ They have a full two year guarantee and are 100% American made.// ​ \\
  
-^  Alternator \\ Kit#  ^  Stock Replacement On  ^  CE Stator# ​ ^  Rotor  ^  Regulator ​ ^  AMPS \\ 1000 R.P.M. ​ ^  AMPS \\ 2500 R.P.M  ^  +The single phase kits come with the stator, rotor and regulator. \\ 
-|CE-19S|L84-90 \\ Sportster|CE-8590|CE-8400|CE-205|12|19| +The stators listed will fit with your OEM rotor. \\ 
-|CE-20S|91-93 \\ Sportster|CE-9100|CE-9200|CE-207|14|20| + 
-|CE-21S|94-03 \\ Sportster|CE-9100|CE-9200|CE-208|14|20| +However, if upgrading to three phase, you'll need the new rotor also as the stator is wider. \\ 
-|CE-23S-04|04-06 \\ 883 Sportster|CE-9100|CE-0200|CE-210|14|20| +The hex bolts on the inside of the rotor will shred the stator windings. \\ 
-|CE-24S-04|07-08 \\ 1200 Sportster|CE-9100|CE-0400|CE-210|14|20| +If in doubt, call Cycle Electric at 937-884-7300 and they'​ll be glad to help you get what you need. \\ 
-|CE-23S-07|07-08 \\ 883 Sportster|CE-0732|CE-0200|CE-211|15|27| + 
-|CE-24S-07|07-08 \\ XL1200 Sportster|CE-0732|CE-0400|CE-211|15|27| +Stators are listed as supplied on stock models. \\ 
-|CE-23S-09|09-13 \\ 883 Sportster|CE-0732|CE-0200|CE-212|15|27| +Sportster models only fit Sportster. ​ Twin cam models only fit twin cams.  \\ 
-|CE-24S-09|08-12 \\ XR1200 Sportster \\ 09-13 1200 Sportster|CE-0732|CE-0400|CE-212|15|27|+Most other stators will interchange if proper rotor shimming can be achieved. \\ 
 + 
 +Stators: 
 +  * Insulation able to withstand temperatures of 600° F to eliminate stator burn out. 
 +  * Better low speed output to reduce battery discharge at an idle. 
 +  * Lower operating temperature for longer service life. 
 +  * Improved plugs that will not swell or separate  
 + 
 +^  Alternator \\ Kit#  ^  Stock Replacement On  ^  CE Stator# ​\\ (OEM Comparison) ​ ​^ ​ Rotor  ^  Regulator ​ ^  AMPS \\ 1000 R.P.M. ​ ^  AMPS \\ 2500 R.P.M  ^  
 +|CE-19S|L84-90 \\ Sportster|CE-8590 ​\\ (29967-84A)|CE-8400|CE-205|12|19| 
 +|CE-20S|91-93 \\ Sportster|CE-9100 ​\\ (29967-89)|CE-9200|CE-207|14|20| 
 +|CE-21S|94-03 \\ Sportster|CE-9100 ​\\ (29967-89)|CE-9200|CE-208|14|20| 
 +|CE-23S-04|04-06 \\ 883 Sportster|CE-9100 ​\\ (29967-89) ​|CE-0200|CE-210|14|20| 
 +|CE-24S-04|07-08 \\ 1200 Sportster|CE-9100 ​\\ (29967-89)|CE-0400|CE-210|14|20| 
 +|CE-23S-07|07-08 \\ 883 Sportster|CE-0732 ​\\ (29997-07)|CE-0200|CE-211|15|27| 
 +|CE-24S-07|07-08 \\ XL1200 Sportster|CE-0732 ​\\ (29997-07)|CE-0400|CE-211|15|27| 
 +|CE-23S-09|09-13 \\ 883 Sportster|CE-0732 ​\\ (29997-07)|CE-0200|CE-212|15|27| 
 +|CE-24S-09|08-12 \\ XR1200 Sportster \\ 09-13 1200 Sportster|CE-0732 ​\\ (29997-07)|CE-0400|CE-212|15|27|
 ^  Upgrade To \\ Three Phase  ^  Fits  ^  Stator ​ ||||| ^  Upgrade To \\ Three Phase  ^  Fits  ^  Stator ​ |||||
 |CE-69S|91-03 Sportster|CE-6012|CE-9210|CE-609|17|38| |CE-69S|91-03 Sportster|CE-6012|CE-9210|CE-609|17|38|
 |CE-69S-04|04-06 1200 Sportster|CE-6012|CE-0410|CE-609|17|38| |CE-69S-04|04-06 1200 Sportster|CE-6012|CE-0410|CE-609|17|38|
  
 +Note: When replacing a stator, compare the plug type to see which system is currently being used. If in doubt replace the complete system as a set. \\
 +Twin Cam models use the same plug on more than one system so comparing plugs won’t work.
  
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​ce_plug_type_1_from_cycle_electric.jpg?​direct&​200|}} {{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​ce_plug_type_2_from_cycle_electric.jpg?​direct&​200|}} {{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​ce_plug_type_13_from_cycle_electric.jpg?​direct&​200|}} ​
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 ==== Single Phase Kits ==== ==== Single Phase Kits ====
  
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   * The CE-69S will fit 1991-2003 Sportster. Use to upgrade to three phase 38 amp.   * The CE-69S will fit 1991-2003 Sportster. Use to upgrade to three phase 38 amp.
   * The CE-69S-04 will fit 2004-2009 1200 Sportster. Use to upgrade to three phase 38 amp.   * The CE-69S-04 will fit 2004-2009 1200 Sportster. Use to upgrade to three phase 38 amp.
 +
 +==== Pics / Dims ====
 +
 +|  Cycle Electric CE 9100 pics ((photos by Hippysmack)) ​ ||
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​ce9100_stator_pic1_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​ce9100_stator_pic2_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
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 +|  CE 9100 wire dims ((photos by Hippysmack)) ​ ||
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​ce9100_stator_pic3_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​ce9100_stator_pic4_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
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