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techtalk:ref:elec20 [2018/11/20 19:04]
hippysmack [Alternate Bracket Material]
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 ====== REF: Electrical System ====== ====== REF: Electrical System ======
 ====== Turn Signal Mods / Relocating ====== ====== Turn Signal Mods / Relocating ======
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 ====== Front Turns on the Trees ====== ====== Front Turns on the Trees ======
 ===== The vwclogan Front Turn Signal Mod ===== ===== The vwclogan Front Turn Signal Mod =====
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-|Use the original signal mounts, some flat metal stock and a bolt with the same thread as mirrors. Cut the stock to size and drill the  3/8" holes for the tree mount. ((photos by dieselbikin of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=10))|||+|Use the original signal mounts, some flat metal stock and a bolt with the same thread as mirrors. Cut the stock to size and drill the 3/8" holes for the tree mount. ((photos by dieselbikin of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=10))|||
 |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_1_by_dieselbikin.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_2_by_dieselbikin.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_3_by_dieselbikin.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_1_by_dieselbikin.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_2_by_dieselbikin.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_3_by_dieselbikin.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
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 +|All thread coupling: In the first pic below, the top 2 fasteners were removed from each side and discarded; (L) 3/8" x 18 pinch bolt and (R) turn signal stud. \\ The 2-1/4" threaded rod and coupling nut replaces the pinch bolt and provides for more threads in the tree. 3/8" rods can be cut from all-thread or a 5" carriage bolt. \\ The coupling nuts are 1-3/4" long or can be cut shorter (these were cut to 7/8"). The signal stud is replaced with a 5/16" x 24 bolt with the head ground down just \\ enough to fit inside the coupling nut snugly. It is then cut so there is about 1/2" of threads to screw into the turn signal housing with a jam nut threaded on it. \\ The carriage end of the 5/16" bolt is then inserted into the coupling that has been side drilled and tapped for a #10x32 set screw to hold the signal bolt tight. ​ \\ The tree can be torqued back properly by use of a crows foot on a socket wrench applied to the coupling. ((photos by alank of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=438111&​page=2))|||
 +|{{techtalk:​ref:​svcproc:​turn_signal_relocation_1_by_alank.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{techtalk:​ref:​svcproc:​turn_signal_relocation_2_by_alank.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{techtalk:​ref:​svcproc:​turn_signal_relocation_3_by_alank.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
 ==== Bikes with this mod ==== ==== Bikes with this mod ====
 **Mounted to lower trees**: **Mounted to lower trees**:
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 |  2012 883N ((photo by byumetalman of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=10)) ​ |  2009 XL1200N ((photo by privation of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=4)) ​ |  2007 883L ((photo by Gillespk of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=9)) ​ | |  2012 883N ((photo by byumetalman of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=10)) ​ |  2009 XL1200N ((photo by privation of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=4)) ​ |  2007 883L ((photo by Gillespk of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=9)) ​ |
  
-|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_5_by_ccain.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_3_by_matt.loup.t.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_5_by_ccain.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_3_by_matt.loup.t.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turn_signal_relocation_4_by_dedpyro.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
-|  2012 XL1200X ​ ((photo by ccain of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=11)) ​ |  2012 XL1200C ((photo by Matt.loup.t of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=11)) ​ |+|  2012 XL1200X ​ ((photo by ccain of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=11)) ​ |  2012 XL1200C ((photo by Matt.loup.t ​of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=11)) ​ |  2007 XL1200R ((photo by DedPyro ​of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=11)) ​ |
  
 **Mounted to upper trees**: **Mounted to upper trees**:
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 |98 1200C \\ Turns mounted with electrical conduit clamps. ((photo by jacobbuelow of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453))|09 883L \\ Turns mounted with electrical conduit clamps. ((photo by rockmanbm of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=7))| |98 1200C \\ Turns mounted with electrical conduit clamps. ((photo by jacobbuelow of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453))|09 883L \\ Turns mounted with electrical conduit clamps. ((photo by rockmanbm of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=916453&​page=7))|
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 ====== Rear Turns ====== ====== Rear Turns ======
  
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 +===== Loose Rear Turn Signal - Fixes =====
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 +Some times the double-ended stud that mounts the rear turn signal housing to the fender (thru a stand-off spacer) is not long enough to get a good bite on the threads in the housing. That eventually leads to the first few threads stripping out. Even though there are more threads in the housing, the stud will not reach deep enough.
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 +Note that on some of the stock studs, the housing threads on the double-ended stud have a different pitch than the fender mounting threads.
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 +SportyTrace suggested the following: ((http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=2072073))\\
 +I ended up fabbing up a replacement longer threaded stud that could get deeper into the indicator body to use the good remaining threads. I used all-thread rod. The trick was getting a nut fixed into place on threaded rod and making the stalk the correct length. I ended up purposely messing up the threads at the fixing point and added loctite too. Worked a treat, but was a bit fiddly. Shown below: original stock one on top and home-made replacement beneath.\\
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​turnsignal-rearmtgstud-diy.jpg?​400|}}
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 +The threads may be repairable using JB Weld (lightly coating the inside of the hole), then rethreading the housing. If all the threads in the housing are stripped, using the above extended stud might reach far enough to use a nut (or speed nut) on the inside of the housing. ​
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 +====== 86-90 LED Turn Signal Schematic ======
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 +The stock turn signal blinker is 'load activated',​ meaning it requires a certain current draw before it functions correctly.
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 +If you change the TS bulbs to LED type, the stock blinker will not work (unless you use load equalizers). But, for these years, it is a simple matter replace the OEM Flasher with an LED-compatible Flasher, then add some diodes and ground wires to make the change. The following electrical diagram illustrates the needed changes.
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 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​elec:​86-90-led-turnsignaldesign.jpg?​600|}}
  
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