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ixl2relax [Daytona Twin Tech TC88A]
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ixl2relax [Crane Ignition Modules]
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-====== Aftermarket ​Ignitions ​======+====== Aftermarket ​Ignition Overview ​======
  
 +===== Sub Documents =====
 +  * [[techtalk:​ref:​engctl01a|'​98-'​03 Sportster Sport 1200S Dynatek D2Ki-3P Ignition Conversion]] ​
 \\ \\
  
-Typical options for Sportster Ignition Configurations (up to 2003):+===== Why Adjust The Spark Timing? ===== 
 + 
 +Quoting XLForum member, **RacerWill**:​((http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1422868 Post#​15))\\ 
 +| One of the things that makes understanding timing difficult is that we're talking about 2 different time frames - crankshaft degrees for spark and real time combustion. We light the fire based on crankshaft degrees and engine load but actual burn time is in real time. To get optimal performance we need to light the fire early enough so it has just the right amount of real time to reach max cylinder pressure just after TDC - so it can expand and smoothly push the piston down, this is called MEP or Mean Effective Pressure.\\ \\ Typically, you want max pressure to occur about 7 degrees after TDC. Running too much advance starts the burn too early and max pressure happens at or before TDC, causing "​ping"​ (actually knock). Conversely, not enough advance to the spark causes max pressure to happen too late, producing less power and laboring the engine, making it run hot.\\ \\ The programmable advance maps on the TC88A, and other modern ignition systems, allows timing curves to be altered at any RPM and any load. By trial and error the best map can be found. I didn't know about having all advance in at 3200rpm but that makes sense to me. I run about 32 deg advance but my compression is a little higher than most and compression slows burn time. | 
 + 
 +Example drawing of advancing the timing on 86-03 Sportsters. ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\ 
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​adjusting_timing_cup_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​400|}} 
 + 
 +.... 
 + 
 + 
 +===== Too Much Advance Timing? ===== 
 + 
 +Quoting XLForum member, **ASWRacing**:​((http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1650461 Post#​12))\\ 
 +**A Perspective by Aaron Wilson of Hammer Performance. (June 2013)**\\ 
 +| I've dyno'​ed thousands of bikes over a long period of time, and on many many of them I've dialed in the timing during the process. Advanced it until the power dropped off, retarded it until the power dropped off, and then centered it in between those two locations. I've also played with curves a lot.\\ \\ **I'm here to tell you that too much timing most definitely costs power, and on the vast majority of bikes, the optimum timing is well below the threshold of ping. Running more timing than optimum makes your motor run hotter and puts the pistons at risk and the threshold of ping is a terrible place to put the timing on most bikes!**\\ \\ Most of these bikes, when they have reasonable compression and chamber turbulence (i.e. a squish band), will want their ignition timing set for about 28-30 degrees max advance at WOT. Going past that starts hurting power and making the motors run hot.\\ \\ When you do a performance build, you really should get an aftermarket ignition, because not only can you turn down the timing, you can bring the timing in more slowly. You almost always find power when you do that on a higher compression build! Most of the motors like it so slow that it's not all-in until 4500-5000rpm. On many ignitions, I've found the best power on the softest curve available. For example, the Dyna 2000 curve 4 almost always works the best if the bike under test has 10:1 compression or more. On a Twin Tec TC88A I literally found the best power on my 04 883/1250 on initial 2 / slope 0. That's the softest curve and almost the least amount of timing the module can give.\\ \\ Getting this notion out of people'​s heads that more timing = more power has always been a huge challenge in this business. When you're talking about a performance build, the exact opposite is almost always true. We have a vested interest in seeing our customers get this right, because we don't want complaints of scuffed or broken pistons, and that's exactly what will happen if you run the timing too high, sooner or later. | 
 + 
 +.... 
 + 
 +===== Manifold Absolute Pressure -vs- Vacuum Reading ===== 
 + 
 +Quoting XLForum member, **RacerWill**:​((http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1422868 Post#​27))\\ 
 +| Just a quick note on MAP(Manifold Absolute Pressure). First, the word "​absolute"​ refers to where zero is placed on the scale. In PSI Absolute, 0 psi is a perfect vacuum and atmospheric pressure is 14.696 psi approx. In PSIg (gauge) atmospheric pressure is zero and a perfect vacuum is -14.696PSIg (equal to 30 inches of mercury, InHg). Kilopascals is the metric version of the absolute measure where a perfect vacuum is zero and atmospheric pressure is 101.325 kPa.\\ \\ The MAP value represents engine load - a higher number represents higher load (more open throttle compared to RPM).\\ \\ For example:\\ Cruising along at 3000rpm on a slight down grade has very low engine load and a lower MAP (kPa) number. If that slight downgrade turns into a steep uphill, you open the throttle to maintain 3000 rpm and the same speed. The MAP (kPa) number starts to climb towards atmospheric pressure 30 InHg (101.3 kPa).| 
 + 
 +{{:​techtalk:​evo:​engctl:​vacuumreadings-map-vs-gauge.jpg?​400|}} 
 + 
 +The point is, MAP readings are the direct air pressure readings and the vacuum gauge reading is the inverse, being the vacuum level reading. In MAP values, the standard atmospheric level is 30, while for the vacuum gauge, 0 is the same level. So a MAP value of 20 (out of 30) is the equivalent of a vacuum value of 10, because vacuum is reading from 30 to 0. A Low MAP value indicates high vacuum and a High Map value indicates low vacuum - The exact same condition is referenced with inverse scales. 
 + 
 +Here's another good reference to understand that the vacuum gauge value and the Manifold Absolute Pressure value are readings taken from opposite ends of the atmospheric pressure range:\\ 
 +https://​www.dekkervacuum.com/​resource-library/​knowledge-database/​technical-data/​what-is-vacuum 
 + 
 +\\ 
 + 
 + 
 + 
 +\\ 
 + 
 +===== Typical options for Sportster Ignition Configurations (up to 2003) =====
  
 **1) Stock Older Ironhead Models - OEM**\\ **1) Stock Older Ironhead Models - OEM**\\
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 - Coil is 3.0 ohms\\ - Coil is 3.0 ohms\\
  
-The 2004-later models all implemented the Crank Position Sensor which eliminated the Cam Sensor Plate.+The stock ignition modules for 1998-2003 1200S models were abandoned by HD soon after 2003. See the Sub-Document link above regarding an alternative ignition setup. 
 + 
 +The 2004-later models all implemented the Crank Position Sensor which eliminated the Cam Sensor Plate.\\ 
 +- 2004-2006 models, which are all carburetored,​ can upgrade to Daytona Twin Tec TC88A Electronic Control Module\\
  
 The 2007-later models use Electronic Fuel Injection with a more complex ignition system. The 2007-later models use Electronic Fuel Injection with a more complex ignition system.
 +- These EFI systems can use an add-on programmable controller or complete upgraded Electronic Control Module\\
 +
 +The 2017-later models use a CANbus communication system.
 +
 +
 +\\
 +
 +====== Ignition Modules - Aftermarket ======
 +
 +
 +
 +===== HD Non-Stock Screamin'​ Eagle Modules =====
 +
 +While stock modules from the MoCo are Factory/​Dealer programmable for either 883 or 1200 models, the Screamin'​ Eagle (SE) modules are designed for either 883 -or- 1200 and are not reprogrammable to switch a module from one to the other. However, there are some adjustable SE modules that can be used on either 883 or 1200 models.
 +
 +**__Many of these modules are obsolete and may be hard to find.__**
 +
 +
 +=== 1988-1997 Models ===
 +
 +^ Module P/N ^ Description |
 +| 32597-96 | Fits ’88-’93 XL883 models. 6800 RPM - K Curve\\ ’90-earlier models require P/N 32408-90 for proper fitment. |
 +| 32632-96 | Fits all '​94-'​97 XL883 models. 6800 RPM - R Curve |
 +| ||
 +| 32420-87B | Fits ’88-’93 XL1200 models. 8000 RPM - K Curve\\ ’90-earlier models require P/N 32408-90 for proper fitment. |
 +| 32598-96 | Fits all ’94-’97 XL1200 models. 6800 RPM - K Curve |
 +| 32420-94 | Fits all ’94-’97 XL1200 models. 8000 RPM - K Curve | 
 +| 32633-96 | Fits all '​94-'​97 XL1200 models. 6800 RPM - Q Curve |
 +| ||
 +| 32655-98 | Adjustable Ignition Module 4-curves/​4-RPMlimits\\ Fits ’93-earlier XL883 or 1200 models.\\ ’90-earlier models require P/N 32408-90 for proper fitment. |
 +| 32654-98 | Adjustable Ignition Module 4-curves/​4-RPMlimits\\ Fits ’94-’97 XL883 or 1200 models |
 +
 +
 +
 +=== 1998-2003 Models - Nosecone Module (not for 1200S) ===
 +
 +^ Module P/N ^ Description |
 +| 32979-98A | Fits ’98-’03 XL883 models. 6800 RPM Limit. |
 +| 32971-98A | Fits '​98-'​03 XL883 models. 7500 RPM Limit. |
 +| ||
 +| 32978-98A | Fits ’98-’03 XL1200 models. 6800 RPM Limit. |
 +| 32969-98A | Fits ’98-’03 XL1200 models. 7500 RPM Limit. |
 +| ||
 +| 32839-00 | Selectable Ignition Module 6pos DIP Switch\\ Fits all '​98-'​03 XL models (not 1200S) - 6posDipSw\\ (See similar Dynatek DYNA 2Ki) |
 +| 32942-02 | Adjustable Ignition Module 10-curves/​moreRPMlimits\\ Fits ’98-’03 XL883 or 1200 models (not XL1200S)\\ (See similar Daytona Twin Tec 1005S-EX and\\ Crane HI-4 module) |
 +
 +=== 1998-2003 Models - For 1200S ONLY ===
 +
 +^ Module P/N ^ Description |
 +| 32977-98 | Fits '​98-'​03 XL1200S models. 6800 RPM Limit. |
 +| 32967-98 | Fits '​98-'​03 XL1200S models. 7500 RPM Limit. |
 +
 +
 +=== 2004-2006 Models ​ ===
 +
 +^ Module P/N ^ Description |
 +| 31784-04A | Fits ’04-'​06 XL883 models. 7000 RPM Limit (Street Legal - Stock Comp)|
 +| 31758-04A | Fits ’04-'​06 XL883 models. 7000 RPM Limit (-5° retard over 6000)|
 +| 31785-04A | Fits ’04-'​06 XL1200 models. 7000 RPM Limit (Street Legal - Stock Comp)|
 +| 31759-04A | Fits ’04-'​06 XL1200 models. 7000 RPM Limit (-5° retard over 6000)|
 +
 +
 +\\
 +
 +**Screamin'​ Eagle 32942-02 - Nosecone Ignition made by Crane for HD**\\
 +[[https://​serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/​sip/​content/​document/​view?​id=1733|Installation Instructions]]
 +
 +Mode Switch (only has 4 positions)\\
 +0 - XL Mode - Uses 2.5 - 3.5 ohm Coil\\
 +2 - Buell Blast Mode - Uses 0.4 - 0.6 ohm Coil\\
 +(No reference to function in position 1 and 3)
 +
 +The ADV SLOPE switch selects a timing curve from 0 to 9, with 0 being the least aggressive curve and 9 being the most aggressive.
 +
 +The two REV LIMIT switches allow selection of a limit of 1500rpms to 8000rpms. Below 1500rpms is not recommended and above 8000rpms reverts to 8000rpms.
 +
 +| Pin# | Wire Color ^ XL Mode wiring into 6-pin Deutsch connector: ^ BLAST Mode wiring into 6-pin Deutsch connector: |
 +| Pin 1 | WHITE/Black | Power from Ignition Switch | Power from Ignition Switch |
 +| Pin 2 | VIOLET/​WHITE | VOES | TPS |
 +| Pin 3 | VIOLET/​Orange | Not Used - Cut terminal - tape wire | Auto-enrichener |
 +| Pin 4 | PINK | Coil Trigger (negative) | Coil Trigger (negative) |
 +| Pin 5 | GREEN/Gray | Bank Angle Sensor (Gnd if not used) | Bank Angle Sensor/​SideStand (Gnd if not used) |
 +| Pin 6 | PLUGGED | Not Used - Gnd on harness | Not Used - Gnd on harness |
 +| | BROWN | Tachometer Trigger | Tachometer Trigger |
 +
 +(http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=49655)
 +
 +\\
 +
 +===== Crane Ignition Modules =====
 +
 +
 +Crane 8-1100 - HI-4 Fireball Dual-fire Nosecone Ignition\\
 +[[http://​www.nightrider.com/​biketech/​download/​crane/​install_hi4_race.pdf|Installation Instructions]]
 +
 +\\
 +
 +Crane 8-2100 - HI-4 Single-Fire Nosecone Ignition\\
 +[[http://​www.nightrider.com/​biketech/​download/​crane/​install_hi4_race2.pdf|Installation Instructions]]\\
 +
 +\\
 +
 +Crane 8-2300 - HI-4 Single/​Dual-fire Selectable/​Programmable
 +
 +
 +\\
 +
 +Crane 8-3100 - HI-4E Single/​Dual-fire Selectable (7-pin connector)\\
 +Crane 8-3101 - HI-4E Sinlge/​Dual-fire Selectable (8-pin connector)\\
 +[[http://​www.nightrider.com/​biketech/​download/​crane/​install_hi4e.pdf|Installation Instructions]]
 +
 +\\
 +
 +
 +
 +(Also see S&S HI-4N Ignition Module, previously Crane 8-6100)
  
  
 \\ \\
  
-===== Dyna S =====+===== Dyna S - Electronic Points ​=====
  
-The Dyna S Ignition is essentially an electronic version of the beaker ​points. It senses a magnet (on the rotating shaft) passing by its sensor & triggers the ignition coil.+The Dyna S Ignition is essentially an electronic version of the breaker ​points. It senses a magnet (on the rotating shaft) passing by its sensor & triggers the ignition coil.
  
 The Dyna S Ignition relies on an external, mechanical advance for altering the timing in relation to engine RPM. The Dyna S Ignition relies on an external, mechanical advance for altering the timing in relation to engine RPM.
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 \\ \\
 +
 +
 +===== S&S HI-4N Ignition Module =====
 +
 +The S&S HI-4N is a nosecone ignition module.
 +
 +[[https://​www.sscycle.com/​docs/​default-source/​instruction-sheets/​510-0277-hi-4n-ignition.pdf|Install Instructions 510-0277 (12-15-14) PDF]]
 +
 +| The MODE SWITCH will select the following configurations:​\\ \\ Single-Fire for electric start models:\\ 0 Single Spark, Race Curve\\ 1 Single Spark, OE Curve\\ 2 Multi Spark, Race Curve\\ 3 Multi Spark, OE Curve\\ \\ Dual-Fire for electric start models:\\ 4 Single Spark, Race Curve\\ 5 Single Spark, OE Curve\\ 6 Multi Spark, Race Curve\\ 7 Multi Spark, OE Curve\\ \\ For Kick Start Bikes (uses OEM curve with Single Spark):\\ 8 Single Fire\\ 9 Dual Fire\\ | {{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​sns-crane-hi-4n-ignitionmodule.jpg?​400|}}((Pic from Doug Funny - http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1751610)) |
 +
 +The ADVANCE RATE Switch provides selectable curves from 0 to 9, with 0 being the least aggressive ignition timing curve and 9 being the most aggressive. Setting 4 or 5 is thus a mid-point selection.
 +
 +The RPM LIMIT Switches will select a maximum rev limit. Using the two switches, it can select a limit at 1500rpms upto 7500rpms. It is recommended to not set the limit below 1500rpms or above 7500rpms.
 +
 +Note: S&S bought the Crane Cams company in April of 2009((https://​www.aftermarketnews.com/​crane-cams-back-in-business-under-new-ownership)) and began relabelling the previous Crane HI-4N. Shown above is the Crane version (identified as 8-6100) installed in a '73 Ironhead Sportster.
 +
 +
 +\\
 +
  
  
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 The Ultima Ignition Unit (53-644) is very similar to the Dynatek 2000i product (although the programmed curves appear to be different). It is a self-contained ignition module meaning the timing sensors are built onto the same timing plate, located in the '​nosecone'​. The timing rotor cup passes thru the sensors on the back of the timing plate to trigger the ignition module. The Ultima Ignition Unit (53-644) is very similar to the Dynatek 2000i product (although the programmed curves appear to be different). It is a self-contained ignition module meaning the timing sensors are built onto the same timing plate, located in the '​nosecone'​. The timing rotor cup passes thru the sensors on the back of the timing plate to trigger the ignition module.
  
-The Ultima unit triggers the coil primary circuit - either as a dual-fire system (one trigger) or a single-fire system (two trigger signals). It also has an output for a tachometer and also has an input for using a VOES to alter the spark timing during idle & cruising.+These nosecone units can be installed in pre-2004 model Sportsters, including those which originally had mechanical points, external ECMs with a Cam Sensor Plate and those models (1998-2003) which had an OEM nosecone ignition. 
 + 
 +**NOTE** - The module expects to see 3-ohm primary coil resistance (2.5-3.5) for any of the configurations. 
 + 
 +The Ultima unit triggers the coil primary circuit - either as a dual-fire system (one trigger) or a single-fire system (two trigger signals). It also has an output for a tachometer and it has an input for using a VOES (which is recommended) ​to alter the spark timing during idle & cruising.
  
 The install instructions are here: Ultima 53-644 [[http://​www.ultimaproducts.com/​53-644_Ignition.pdf|Installation Instructions (2012 version)]]\\ The install instructions are here: Ultima 53-644 [[http://​www.ultimaproducts.com/​53-644_Ignition.pdf|Installation Instructions (2012 version)]]\\
  
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​ultima-53-644-ignition-module.jpg?​400|}}((Pics by Blowby & Static of the XLForum.net))+{{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​ultima-53-644-ignition-module.jpg?​400|}}((Pics by Blowby & Static of the XLForum.net)){{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​ultima-53-644-wiring-df.jpg?​300|}}{{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​ultima-53-644-wiring-sf.jpg?​300|}}
  
 See this thread: http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1747557 See this thread: http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1747557
  
 +\\
 +
 +
 +==== Programming the Ultima, Dyna & Dynatek Modules ====
 +
 +These links should be instructive:​
 +
 +Mfg Product Info - Website\\
 +http://​www.dynaonline.com/​products/​harley-davidson/​dyna-2ki.aspx\\
 +http://​www.dynaonline.com/​products/​harley-davidson/​programming-kit-harness.aspx\\
 +http://​www.dynatekuk.com/​harley_davidson_programming_kit.html
 +
 +Instructions - PDF\\
 +http://​www.dynaonline.com/​skins/​downloads/​instruct/​D2Ki-1P.pdf\\
 +http://​www.dynaonline.com/​skins/​downloads/​instruct/​PH-1.pdf\\
 +http://​www.dynaonline.com/​skins/​downloads/​instruct/​DIPK-1.pdf\\
 +
 +Software Download\\
 +www.dynaonline.com/​skins/​downloads/​software/​setupdisk_HD/​Dynatek_HD.zip\\
 +www.dynaonline.com/​skins/​downloads/​software/​USB_ADAPTER_DRIVE/​CDM2.02.04.zip\\
 +
 +Aftermarket Programming Cable\\
 +https://​www.ebay.com/​itm/​USB-programming-cable-for-Harley-ignition-Dyna-2000i-2000P-Ultima/​332638037964\\
 +
 +
 +\\
  
 ===== Daytona Twin Tec TC88A ===== ===== Daytona Twin Tec TC88A =====
  
-{{ :​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​tc88a-module-rocketmangb.jpg?​300|}} +{{ :​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​tc88a-module-rocketmangb.jpg?​300|Image from Rocketmangb of the XLForum}} 
-The TC88A Ignition Module is usable on the 2004-2006 carburetored models of the Sportsters. It replaces the stock Ignition Module.+The TC88A Ignition Module is usable on the 2004-2006 carburetored models of the Sportsters. It replaces the stock Ignition Module ​and utilizes the CKP sensor and the MAP sensor to control the ignition timing.
  
 The TC88A has dials on the module for selecting pre-programed ignition timing maps and choosing the level of the RPM Limiter. This is accomplished with two dials for timing maps and two dials for the RPM Limit. The TC88A has dials on the module for selecting pre-programed ignition timing maps and choosing the level of the RPM Limiter. This is accomplished with two dials for timing maps and two dials for the RPM Limit.
  
-One of the timing dials sets the Initial Timing while the second dial selects the Timing Advance Slope. ​+One of the timing dials sets the Initial Timing while the second dial selects the Timing Advance Slope. ​These settings are explained further in the link below to information about the MAP Files. 
 + 
 +One of the RPM Limit dials chooses the x1000 value and the other selects the x100 value. Note: Setting the RPM Limit to 0 will disable the module. (BE CAREFUL not to set the RPM Limit above a safe level for your engine configuration!) 
  
-One of the RPM Limit dials chooses ​the x1000 value and the other selects the x100 valueIf setting is selected at 3000 or belowthat is understood ​to mean NO RPM LIMITER will be activeBE CAREFUL!+In addition to the pre-programmed timing maps (selectable by the dials), the unit can be user-programmed to utilize customized timing advance maps instead of the pre-programmed mapsTo use these customized maps, you must have computer interface, such as the Daytona USB Interface (18014), and the Daytona PC-Link Software, to communicate with the TC88A module.
  
-In addition to the pre-programmed timing maps (selectable by the dials), the unit can be user-programmed to utilize customized timing advance maps. To use these customized maps, you must have a computer interface, such as the Daytona USB Interface (18014), and the Daytona PC-Link Software, to communicate with the TC88A unit. (see this [[http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=780755|XLForum Thread]].)+The TC88A also captures ​the following information:​ 
 +| Firmware ID\\ Total Hours of Operation\\ Engine Starts\\ Maximum Engine RPM\\ Seconds at RPM Limit | | Elapsed Time (hours)\\ in RPM Bands:\\ \\ Idle\\ 1000-1499 RPM\\ 1500-1999 RPM\\ 2000-2499 RPM\\ 2500-2999 RPM\\ 3000-3499 RPM\\ 3500-3999 RPM\\ 4000-4499 RPM\\ 4500-4999 RPM\\ 5000-5499 RPM\\ 5500-5999 RPM\\ 6000-6499 RPM\\ 6500-6999 RPM |
  
 \\ \\
  
 +**Install & Wiring** ---> [[techtalk:​ref:​engctl50h|TC88A Wire Connections For Programming]]\\
 +This Sportsterpedia link provides descriptions,​ pictures & a wiring diagram to help you\\
 +to install the TC88A and create a DIY External Power Harness.
 +
 +**Ignition Timing Maps** ---> [[techtalk:​ref:​engctl50|Daytona Twin Tec & User Created TC88A Map Files]]\\
 +This Sportsterpedia link starts several pages discussing the use of Ignition Timing MAP Files\\
 +with the TC88A (including User Programmable Ignition Maps created by XLForum members).\\
 +
 +
 +The TC88A Instructions as listed on the Daytona Twin Tec page:\\
 +http://​daytona-twintec.com/​Content/​TC88A/​1009_Instructions.doc
 +
 +XLForum Discussions of the Twin Tec TC88A module\\
 +http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=518158 - Foxster - Screamin'​ Eagle versus TC88A ignition modules for '​04-'​06 Sportsters \\
 +http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1525483 - ESteid - Installing a Twin-Tech TC88A on an 04\\
  
-Here's an Overview of Ignition Technology on the Daytona Twin Tec page: 
-http://​www.daytona-twintec.com/​tech_ignition.html 
  
 \\ \\
  
  
-===== Thunder Heart EI4250 ​=====+====== Body Control Modules ​Aftermarket ======
  
-Install Manual - http://​thunder-heart.com/​Tech%20Service%20PDFs/​EI4250.pdf+\\
  
-Updated image (sourced ​from the Thunder Heart Install Manual)\\ +===== Thunder Heart - EA4250D ===== 
-to show typical wiring - Wire colors are for TH wire harness:\\ + 
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​thunderheart-ei4250-rh-pre96.jpg?​400|}}+This section is related to the Electronic Harness Controller available from Thunder Heart Performance Corp. The information gathered here was due to a significant effort by XLForum member, Roane, while trying to implement the EA4250D on his Ironhead Sportster. ​((See this XLForum thread: http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=2075235)) 
 + 
 +The TH EA4250D controller works in conjunction with whatever spark timing system you have, whether points, Ignition Control Module or later Engine Control Module. In any case, the TH unit does not control the spark creation or timing but rather simply controls the power to the coil (and ignition module) in order to allow or prevent the engine ​from running. 
 + 
 +The installation manual can be downloaded at the Thunder Heart website (http://​thunder-heart.com/​Tech%20Service%20PDFs/​EI4250.pdf). It should be consulted carefully in conjunction with the added information below. The manual information is not repeated here. 
 + 
 +Here is an overall diagram to detail the connection of various switches, lights, sensors, etc. (click on an image to see a larger version): 
 + 
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​thunderheart-ea4250d-connectiondiagram.jpg?​800|}}((Created by IXL2Relax of the XLForum))\\ 
 +**Note that the Auxiliary Power Outputs at J1-Pin1 and J5-Pin1 are both keyswitched power.\\ 
 +They are ONLY ON when the Keyswitch is ON.** 
 + 
 + 
 +The following image shows the typical wiring ​that would be used for the\\ 
 +right-hand HD control ​- Wire colors are for the TH wire harness: 
 + 
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​thunderheart-ea4250d-rh-pre96.jpg?​500|}}((Created by IXL2Relax of the XLForum))
  
 Note that on most Sportsters, all the way up thru 2013, the wiring configuration is\\ Note that on most Sportsters, all the way up thru 2013, the wiring configuration is\\
 functionally the same as above (with only some minor wire color variations - or\\ functionally the same as above (with only some minor wire color variations - or\\
-those noted in the TH Install Manual). The RED wire (jumpershown in the\\+those noted in the TH Install Manual). The BLUE jumper ​wire shown in the\\
 diagram between the RUN/STOP Switch and the Starter Button is typically\\ diagram between the RUN/STOP Switch and the Starter Button is typically\\
 internal to the RH Switch Housing. internal to the RH Switch Housing.
  
 +Below is a diagram of the ignition connections,​ from the handlebar switches to the Starter Motor.\\
 +This is intended to explain the operation of the internal Start Relay in relation to the RUN/KILL &\\
 +START switches. The shown internal connections are functional representations and do not represent\\
 +that these connections are simply jumper-wired as shown. (This configuration was gleaned from the\\
 +manual (minimal info) and from continuity testing. It is believed to be accurate, but no guarantee.)
 +
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​engctl:​thunderheart-ea4250d-startbutton.jpg?​500|}}((Created by IXL2Relax of the XLForum))
 +
 +
 +\\
 +
 +===== Motogadget M-Unit Blue =====
 +
 +\\
 +
 +This unit is designed to replace the power control device on your motocycle. It does not provide engine spark or timing, so you must supply (or keep) that part of the motor control devices (points & mech advance or ignition module & timing sensor, coil, etc). Their main website is https://​motogadget.com
 +
 +The m-unit operation (and the manual) is updated regularly so it is important to know which version you have to know what functions are programmable. The manuals are not dated, so pay attention to the version & S/N references.
 +
 +Take note that most input switch connections are expected to activate the signal by grounding the input. This may not be the way the stock switches are configured.
 +
 +Document Links:\\
 +https://​motogadget.com/​shop/​media/​downloads/​manual/​munit_blue_manual_1.8_en.pdf\\
 +https://​motogadget.com/​shop/​media/​downloads/​manual/​munit_blue_manual_en_2.0.pdf\\
 +https://​motogadget.com/​shop/​media/​downloads/​manual/​munit_basic_blue_manual_en_2.1.pdf\\
 +https://​motogadget.com/​shop/​media/​downloads/​manual/​munit_basic_blue_manual_en_2.2.pdf\\
 +https://​motogadget.com/​shop/​media/​downloads/​manual/​mo.unit_basic_blue_manual_en_2.4.pdf\\
 +
 +
 +Revival Cycles'​ has done a number of YouTube videos (called Tech Talk) and has some
 +documentation as well.\\
 +https://​technicalarticles.revivalcycles.com/​hc/​en-us/​categories/​360000739551-Motogadget\\
 +
 +The Ins and Outs of the Motogadget M-Unit Blue (21:​13min)\\
 +https://​www.youtube.com/​watch?​v=899wODtXeRg\\
 +
 +This diagram may or may not be like your setup (may not be helpful):\\
 +https://​revivalcycles.zendesk.com/​hc/​en-us/​article_attachments/​360012382451/​universal_m-unit_blue_diagram_5.0_.pdf\\
  
 +Using Your Phone to Connect to the m-unit:\\
 +https://​www.mo-ride.de/​en/​\\