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techtalk:ref:engmech01q [2019/02/18 04:05] hippysmack [OEM 2000 and Up vs SBC Lifters] |
techtalk:ref:engmech01q [2019/02/18 17:57] hippysmack [Roller end manuf. defect repair] |
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In 2006, they changed the design to a plastic "anti-rotaion-device" or ARD. \\ | In 2006, they changed the design to a plastic "anti-rotaion-device" or ARD. \\ | ||
- | One thing you need to pay attention to when using high lift cams is the tappet pin clearance. ((aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=322680)) \\ | + | One thing you need to pay attention to when using high lift cams is the tappet pin clearance. ((aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=322680)) ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1011178&highlight=lifter+pins#post1011178)) \\ |
Without enough clearance, the tappet will contact the pin and make a racket. \\ | Without enough clearance, the tappet will contact the pin and make a racket. \\ | ||
The generally accepted minimum clearance is .060": | The generally accepted minimum clearance is .060": | ||
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High performance lifters are especially helpful as a piece of preventative maintenance when high spring pressures are used. ((aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?s=73d24db8f0756ef41c6215fd92ad0055&p=4726240)) \\ | High performance lifters are especially helpful as a piece of preventative maintenance when high spring pressures are used. ((aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?s=73d24db8f0756ef41c6215fd92ad0055&p=4726240)) \\ | ||
The longer flats also allow higher lifts. | The longer flats also allow higher lifts. | ||
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+ | ===== Roller end manuf. defect repair ===== | ||
+ | It seems aftermarket lifters have a tendency to be wide at the roller end (at the opposite pins holding the roller). \\ | ||
+ | Measure them before installing to be sure they won't scratch the lifter bore when turned home. ((Hippysmack of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5283285&highlight=lifter+pins#post5283285)) \\ | ||
+ | The Fueling lifters below had this problem. \\ | ||
+ | The company (when contacted) said they would replace them but with concerns of receiving the same issue with replacements, these were resized at the base. \\ | ||
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+ | The lifter has to be installed in the top facing the flats toward the engine or it hangs up on the cylinder fins. \\ | ||
+ | Once down past the fins, you have to turn them 90 degrees to get the anti-rotation pins in. \\ | ||
+ | The lifter was cutting into the bore while installing them and turning them sideways. \\ | ||
+ | The extruding sides were cutting on the opposite ends of the roller caps and gathering aluminum shavings in the pin hole recesses. \\ | ||
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+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_1_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_3_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | Upon measuring, the main body on this particular set of Fueling lifters were .903" on the main body with the roller end being .9035". \\ | ||
+ | When the lifter roller pins (or pin caps) were pressed in, this process apparently warped out both opposite sides of the barrel ends. \\ | ||
+ | This is similar to squeezing the top of a paper cup. The factory clearance is .0008"-.0020" and out of service limit at .0030" \\ | ||
+ | The distance from side to side opposite the roller pin sides had a diameter of .0005" more than the main body. \\ | ||
+ | The extruding part of the lifter base acted as a cutter on the lifter bore. \\ | ||
+ | They were chucked in a lathe, filed and lightly polished with medium grit sandpaper which brought them down to .903" all around the base. \\ | ||
+ | The file was raised up slightly so only the extruding side ends would graze the file. \\ | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_4_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_5_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_6_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | 91-Up lifters are not in replaceable lifter blocks. So wear in the bore is critical. \\ | ||
+ | The FSM says since this model has no tappet bushing, the only way to fix 'out of service bores' are bigger tappets or a new case. \\ | ||
+ | So the bore was honed slightly to remove the bulk of the scratches made by the oversized lifter end. \\ | ||
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+ | The hone was made from a ball hone with the balls removed and 400 grit sandpaper Gorilla glued to the shaft. \\ | ||
+ | To keep center on the hone, a bushing was cut on the lathe with a slip fit hole small enough to accept the wire handle. \\ | ||
+ | |The bores are slanted toward the pushrod cup \\ of each rocker arm. ((photo by Hippysmack))| Homemade hone to lightly clean up the lifter bore. ((photos by Hippysmack)) || | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_8_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_7_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_11_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | The hone was turned by hand for app. 10 turns (while holding the bushing in place) per lifter bore to clean up the scratches. \\ | ||
+ | Due to the slanted bores, the bushing was raised slightly while honing. \\ | ||
+ | |Hone held through center of pushrod hole. ((photo by Hippysmack))|This is all that was removed from all 4 bores \\ combined and from the bottom of the bores. ((photo by Hippysmack))|All scratches weren't removed but honing too much \\ would open the bore too far. ((photo by Hippysmack))| | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_9_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_10_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:sizing_a_fueling_lifter_base_12_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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===== Other Useful Links ===== | ===== Other Useful Links ===== | ||
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===== Feuling lifters ===== | ===== Feuling lifters ===== | ||
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===== Gaterman Lifters ===== | ===== Gaterman Lifters ===== | ||
Four different models are available for XL's. ((aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?s=73d24db8f0756ef41c6215fd92ad0055&p=4726240)) \\ | Four different models are available for XL's. ((aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?s=73d24db8f0756ef41c6215fd92ad0055&p=4726240)) \\ |