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techtalk:ref:engmech05c [2019/07/18 02:40] hippysmack [Joker Machine A/C w/ Internal Breather Path to Catch Can Conversion] |
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====== Installing a Catch Can on the Breather Vent Line ====== | ====== Installing a Catch Can on the Breather Vent Line ====== | ||
- | ===== WD-40 Catch Can ===== | + | This one is 4" long and 1-5/8" in dia. \\ |
- | An old WD-40 can with the top cut out to drop the vent line into. \\ | + | The fittings can be installed however you like for your application (mounting position). \\ |
- | The can vents to atmosphere. \\ | + | Mounted vertically, (which is a more efficient use of it's volume) the drain valve can be installed on the bottom. \\ |
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_2_by_daytonasportster.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by DaytonaSportster of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=27)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_1_by_daytonasportster.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by DaytonaSportster of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=27)) \\ | + | Mounted horizontally, the drain valve can be installed on the side (which ends up being the bottom). \\ |
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+ | | Breather Vent Catch Can. ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page18?t=146084&page=18)) | Temporary Catch Can for Testing. ((photo by Screw Loose Dan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/vendors/nrhs-high-performance/32415-oil-usage-and-timing/page24?t=53769&highlight=valve+guide&page=24)) | | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_by_screw_loose_dan.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
===== Homemade PCV Catch Can ===== | ===== Homemade PCV Catch Can ===== | ||
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===== Joker Machine A/C w/ Internal Breather Path to Catch Can Conversion ===== | ===== Joker Machine A/C w/ Internal Breather Path to Catch Can Conversion ===== | ||
- | This 883R had a Joker Machine A/F setup that vents into the intake stream. ((Imaposer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146084&page=22))\\ | + | This 883R had a Joker Machine A/F setup that vents into the intake stream. ((Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page22?t=146084&page=22))\\ |
The A/C was allowing oil to drip a light oil mist down the right side of the bike. \\ | The A/C was allowing oil to drip a light oil mist down the right side of the bike. \\ | ||
It seems that the oil was dripping from the vent ports and saturating the bottom of the filter, and then just slowly dripping out. \\ | It seems that the oil was dripping from the vent ports and saturating the bottom of the filter, and then just slowly dripping out. \\ | ||
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The Joker Machine venting system was bypassed via a catch can assembly as in the pics below. \\ | The Joker Machine venting system was bypassed via a catch can assembly as in the pics below. \\ | ||
A horseshoe, new filter mounting adapter (Mooneyes) and a catch can system was installed. \\ | A horseshoe, new filter mounting adapter (Mooneyes) and a catch can system was installed. \\ | ||
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_10_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_11_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146084&page=22)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_10_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page22?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_11_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page22?t=146084&page=22)) \\ |
The bracket for the catch can was fabricated from some scrap steel then powder coated. \\ | The bracket for the catch can was fabricated from some scrap steel then powder coated. \\ | ||
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_12_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_13_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_14_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146084&page=22)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_12_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page22?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_13_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page22?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_14_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page22?t=146084&page=22)) \\ |
The catch can was mounted to an existing hole in the frame (out of the way between the front lower frame rails). \\ | The catch can was mounted to an existing hole in the frame (out of the way between the front lower frame rails). \\ | ||
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While there's while there's never much volume in them, the can catches any liquid from the vent instead of it misting on the bike. \\ | While there's while there's never much volume in them, the can catches any liquid from the vent instead of it misting on the bike. \\ | ||
The Mooneyes filter adapter allows the use the 4" K&N filter and Joker Machine outer cover. \\ | The Mooneyes filter adapter allows the use the 4" K&N filter and Joker Machine outer cover. \\ | ||
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_15_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_16_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_17_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146084&page=22)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_15_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page22?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_16_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page22?t=146084&page=22)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_17_by_imaposer.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Imaposer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/44522-show-me-your-non-stock-breather-systems/page22?t=146084&page=22)) \\ |
===== Engine Breather Oil Collector (EBOC) System ===== | ===== Engine Breather Oil Collector (EBOC) System ===== | ||
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[[http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=EBOC&&view=detail&mid=A786A0896B9DB5580D5DA786A0896B9DB5580D5D&&FORM=VRDGAR|Here's a video from the maker on how to install it.]] | [[http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=EBOC&&view=detail&mid=A786A0896B9DB5580D5DA786A0896B9DB5580D5D&&FORM=VRDGAR|Here's a video from the maker on how to install it.]] | ||
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- | This one is installed with the addition of one 5/16" hole in the sprocket cover, some 3/8" hose, and a brass tee. ((pearlmoto of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1751615&page=3)) \\ | + | This one is installed with the addition of one 5/16" hole in the sprocket cover, some 3/8" hose, and a brass tee. ((pearlmoto of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-motor-top-end/163049-is-the-stock-head-breather-system-bad-for-the-motor/page3?t=1751615&page=3)) \\ |
It's basically a catch can with a filter on the top. \\ | It's basically a catch can with a filter on the top. \\ | ||
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_1_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_2_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_3_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&330|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1751615&page=3)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_1_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-motor-top-end/163049-is-the-stock-head-breather-system-bad-for-the-motor/page3?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_2_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-motor-top-end/163049-is-the-stock-head-breather-system-bad-for-the-motor/page3?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_3_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&330|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-motor-top-end/163049-is-the-stock-head-breather-system-bad-for-the-motor/page3?t=1751615&page=3)) \\ |
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_4_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_5_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_6_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_7_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1751615&page=3)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_4_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-motor-top-end/163049-is-the-stock-head-breather-system-bad-for-the-motor/page3?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_5_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-motor-top-end/163049-is-the-stock-head-breather-system-bad-for-the-motor/page3?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_6_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-motor-top-end/163049-is-the-stock-head-breather-system-bad-for-the-motor/page3?t=1751615&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:eboc_7_by_pearlmoto.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by pearlmoto of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-motor-top-end/163049-is-the-stock-head-breather-system-bad-for-the-motor/page3?t=1751615&page=3)) \\ |
===== Catch Can Pics ===== | ===== Catch Can Pics ===== | ||
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_4_by_goblin_dust.jpg?direct&300|}} ((Photo by goblin_dust of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=23)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_4_by_goblin_dust.jpg?direct&300|}} ((Photo by goblin_dust of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/36799-installing-the-ultimate-crankcase-vent-%C2%93how-to%C2%94/page23?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=23)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:jack_daniels_breather_by_lone_rider.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Lone Rider of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/193019-aircleaner-and-venting-help?t=2068075&highlight=low+oil+level&page=2)) \\ |
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+ | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_2_by_daytonasportster.jpg?direct&150|}} ((photo by DaytonaSportster of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/36799-installing-the-ultimate-crankcase-vent-%C2%93how-to%C2%94/page27?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=27)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:catch_can_1_by_daytonasportster.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by DaytonaSportster of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/36799-installing-the-ultimate-crankcase-vent-%C2%93how-to%C2%94/page27?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=27)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:caffeinated_catch_can_by_lone_rider.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Lone Rider of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/36799-installing-the-ultimate-crankcase-vent-%C2%93how-to%C2%94/page27?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=27)) \\ | ||
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