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techtalk:ref:engmech05e [2019/06/03 03:58] hippysmack [Adding a Vent Between the Oil Tank and the Cam Chest] |
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| - | ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-05H ====== | + | ====== REF: Engine Mechanicals - Sub-05E ====== |
| ====== Adding a Vent Between the Oil Tank and the Cam Chest ====== | ====== Adding a Vent Between the Oil Tank and the Cam Chest ====== | ||
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| **Background**: \\ | **Background**: \\ | ||
| - | This mod was attempted to improve crankcase pressure venting for more efficient flow of oil and neutral pressure inside the oil tank on 04 and up Sportsters. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658)) \\ | + | This mod was attempted to improve crankcase pressure venting for more efficient oil flow, lower oil temps and neutral pressure inside the oil tank on 04 and up Sportsters. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658)) \\ |
| (even though the vents are different on earlier Sportsters, engine breathing is the same concept) \\ | (even though the vents are different on earlier Sportsters, engine breathing is the same concept) \\ | ||
| Before this mod, the tank oil gauge would readily hit 250°F, the oil would look foamy after running hard and the top end was much noisy. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=11)) \\ | Before this mod, the tank oil gauge would readily hit 250°F, the oil would look foamy after running hard and the top end was much noisy. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=11)) \\ | ||
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| **Results of this mod**: \\ | **Results of this mod**: \\ | ||
| - | This mod was deemed not to work properly as oil would back up into the added vent and cause higher oil temps at high RPM. \\ | + | This mod was deemed not to work properly at high RPM as oil would back up into the added vent and cause higher oil temps. \\ |
| It was eventually reversed with a solid hose replaced as in the OEM configuration. \\ | It was eventually reversed with a solid hose replaced as in the OEM configuration. \\ | ||
| Then the cam cover was fitted with a vent and PCV valve **which did work**. \\ | Then the cam cover was fitted with a vent and PCV valve **which did work**. \\ | ||
| - | Click here to view that article in the Sportsterpedia ... [[techtalk:ref:oil05d|Installing the Ultimate Crankcase Vent]] \\ | + | However, others have done this mod with positive results. Other engine mods, specific setups and riding style will vary results. \\ |
| + | Click here to view that article in the Sportsterpedia ... [[techtalk:ref:engmech05d|Installing the Ultimate Crankcase Vent]] \\ | ||
| ====== Installing the PCV in the Vent Line ====== | ====== Installing the PCV in the Vent Line ====== | ||
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| |Install the tee in the hose with the tee pointing up. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658))|The plastic tube needs to be clipped. \\ The excess piece is sitting on the belt. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658))|Connect the tee with a short piece of 5/16" hose. \\ Connect the tee to the plastic tube. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658))| | |Install the tee in the hose with the tee pointing up. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658))|The plastic tube needs to be clipped. \\ The excess piece is sitting on the belt. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658))|Connect the tee with a short piece of 5/16" hose. \\ Connect the tee to the plastic tube. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658))| | ||
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_1_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_2_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_3_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | |{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_1_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_2_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_3_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}| |
| Next, loop the new vent line up the frame tube and then run it back down. \\ | Next, loop the new vent line up the frame tube and then run it back down. \\ | ||
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| | New vent installed and secured. ((photos by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658)) ||| | | New vent installed and secured. ((photos by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658)) ||| | ||
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_4_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_5_by_deimus.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_6_by_deimus.jpg?direct&250|}}| | + | |{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_4_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_5_by_deimus.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_6_by_deimus.jpg?direct&250|}}| |
| The new vent line is hardly noticeable and stays tucked close to the frame tube. \\ | The new vent line is hardly noticeable and stays tucked close to the frame tube. \\ | ||
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| | Original finished product. ((photos by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658)) || | | Original finished product. ((photos by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658)) || | ||
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_7_by_deimus.jpg?direct&400|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_8_by_deimus.jpg?direct&400|}}| | + | |{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_7_by_deimus.jpg?direct&400|}}|{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_8_by_deimus.jpg?direct&400|}}| |
| **First Ride report**: ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=10)) \\ | **First Ride report**: ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=10)) \\ | ||
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| And with the fuel filter being placed before the PCV valve, the oil should remain in the engine. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=11)) \\ | And with the fuel filter being placed before the PCV valve, the oil should remain in the engine. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=11)) \\ | ||
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_9_by_deimus.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_10_by_deimus.jpg?direct&200|}}| | + | |{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_9_by_deimus.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_10_by_deimus.jpg?direct&200|}}| |
| **Result**: ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12)) \\ | **Result**: ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12)) \\ | ||
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| |Vent location inside the cam cover. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12)) |A screw hole and two drain holes drilled. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12))| | |Vent location inside the cam cover. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12)) |A screw hole and two drain holes drilled. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12))| | ||
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_11_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_13_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | |{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_11_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_13_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}| |
| |An aluminum baffle was fabricated. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12))|Finished baffle shown. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12))| | |An aluminum baffle was fabricated. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12))|Finished baffle shown. ((photo by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658&page=12))| | ||
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_12_by_deimus.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:04_up_crankcase_vent_14_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | |{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_12_by_deimus.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_14_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}| |
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| ====== Conclusions from this mod ====== | ====== Conclusions from this mod ====== | ||
| - | Installing a PCV on the oil tank vent line did not help in creating more efficient flow of oil in the engine. \\ | + | Installing a PCV on the oil tank vent line did not help in creating more efficient flow of oil in the subject engine. \\ |
| In fact, it increased operating temps and didn't stop the loss of oil. \\ | In fact, it increased operating temps and didn't stop the loss of oil. \\ | ||
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| So much oil is being slung around that fitting in those conditions that adding a vent there will be oily. \\ | So much oil is being slung around that fitting in those conditions that adding a vent there will be oily. \\ | ||
| Based on these findings, adding the custom vent in the cam cover along with an oil splash guard is the better way to go. \\ | Based on these findings, adding the custom vent in the cam cover along with an oil splash guard is the better way to go. \\ | ||
| - | That mod is detailed here: [[techtalk:ref:oil05d|Installing the Ultimate Crankcase Vent]] \\ | + | That mod is detailed here: [[techtalk:ref:engmech05d|Installing the Ultimate Crankcase Vent]] \\ |
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