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techtalk:ref:genmsr10 [2018/02/04 02:15] hippysmack [General Locking and Sealing Compounds] |
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| - | ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication ====== | + | ====== REF: General-MSR 10 ====== |
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| * It is Ok to grease the connectors before connection being made for most applications as long as there is a tight enough metal to metal connection point to push out the grease in that area. | * It is Ok to grease the connectors before connection being made for most applications as long as there is a tight enough metal to metal connection point to push out the grease in that area. | ||
| * DO NOT use WD-40 to blow out/ clean old grease from connectors. Wd-40 is a conductive petroleum based lubricant that will not wipe out or dry up enough to ensure a non-conductive condition in your connections which could arc on such use. | * DO NOT use WD-40 to blow out/ clean old grease from connectors. Wd-40 is a conductive petroleum based lubricant that will not wipe out or dry up enough to ensure a non-conductive condition in your connections which could arc on such use. | ||
| - | * Dielectric grease is NOT a conductor, its an insulator....((cantolina of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=130945&highlight=dielectric+grease)) | + | * Dielectric grease is NOT a conductor, its an insulator....((cantolina of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=130945&highlight=dielectric+grease)) |
| * Dielectric grease, while not promoting conductivity, does help to preserve and maintain it by reducing conductivity degrading corrosion/oxidation of electrical connections over the dimension of time. It works by sealing out air and moisture (if good, solid, tight connections have been made and have been periodically cleaned and checked for same). | * Dielectric grease, while not promoting conductivity, does help to preserve and maintain it by reducing conductivity degrading corrosion/oxidation of electrical connections over the dimension of time. It works by sealing out air and moisture (if good, solid, tight connections have been made and have been periodically cleaned and checked for same). | ||
| * While slathering dielectric grease everywhere onto electrical connectors before you mate them won’t yield an improvement in electrical current, it does coat and/or undercoat surrounding open areas not subject to tight bonding and keeps corrosion from entering. | * While slathering dielectric grease everywhere onto electrical connectors before you mate them won’t yield an improvement in electrical current, it does coat and/or undercoat surrounding open areas not subject to tight bonding and keeps corrosion from entering. | ||
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| * Always make sure your connections are tight, especially if you lube them before connecting them to allow the grease to move out of the hard connection area. Use a multi-meter to confirm conductivity before leaving it. | * Always make sure your connections are tight, especially if you lube them before connecting them to allow the grease to move out of the hard connection area. Use a multi-meter to confirm conductivity before leaving it. | ||
| * Dielectric grease is not a cleaner, it cannot restore corroded electrical connections but it is non-conductive grease with good heat resistance properties. | * Dielectric grease is not a cleaner, it cannot restore corroded electrical connections but it is non-conductive grease with good heat resistance properties. | ||
| - | * I tried both ways and don't see any voltage difference with my cheapo meter so I don't think the grease has much, if any resistance.((Baldspot of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=1513574&highlight=dielectric+grease)) | + | * I tried both ways and don't see any voltage difference with my cheapo meter so I don't think the grease has much, if any resistance.((Baldspot of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1513574&highlight=dielectric+grease)) |
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| ====== Anti-seize compound ====== | ====== Anti-seize compound ====== | ||
| + | See also [[techtalk:ref:tools123#wet_torque_value_chart_for_lubed_threads|Wet Torque Value Chart for Lubed Threads]] in the Tool section of the Sportsterpedia. \\ | ||
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| * Anti-Seize is a general phrase used to describe a lubing compound commonly used for threaded connections. However, anti-seize technology goes way beyond that. Anti-seize compounds offer a solution to problems associated with metal to metal contact at high temperatures and aide in assembly and disassembly. Some of these problems include seizing, galling, cold welding and heat freezing. These problems are accelerated by corrosion, friction, high temperature, load and torque. Anti-seize protects against rust and corrosion, reduces friction by providing constant torque tension, speeds up assembly and disassembly, prevents seizing, galling & cold welding. It is non-hardening and non-dripping and it retards galvanic action between dissimilar metals. | * Anti-Seize is a general phrase used to describe a lubing compound commonly used for threaded connections. However, anti-seize technology goes way beyond that. Anti-seize compounds offer a solution to problems associated with metal to metal contact at high temperatures and aide in assembly and disassembly. Some of these problems include seizing, galling, cold welding and heat freezing. These problems are accelerated by corrosion, friction, high temperature, load and torque. Anti-seize protects against rust and corrosion, reduces friction by providing constant torque tension, speeds up assembly and disassembly, prevents seizing, galling & cold welding. It is non-hardening and non-dripping and it retards galvanic action between dissimilar metals. | ||
| * Anti-seize acts as a lubricant to perform as a barrier or shield preventing deteriation of the metal surfaces. Oils and conventional greases are OK for some applications, however they do not last well beyond temperatures of 400ºF to 500ºF. Anti- seize compounds were developed to handle the lubricating job at higher temperature limits of various applications. They contain oils and greases for protection at lower temperatures and are the vehicle for the metallic and other solids contained in the compounds. After the oils and greases dissipate, the solid content of the compound remains (in the threads, on the flanges, etc.) plating the metal surfaces to resist friction, rust, corrosion and other detrimental conditions. | * Anti-seize acts as a lubricant to perform as a barrier or shield preventing deteriation of the metal surfaces. Oils and conventional greases are OK for some applications, however they do not last well beyond temperatures of 400ºF to 500ºF. Anti- seize compounds were developed to handle the lubricating job at higher temperature limits of various applications. They contain oils and greases for protection at lower temperatures and are the vehicle for the metallic and other solids contained in the compounds. After the oils and greases dissipate, the solid content of the compound remains (in the threads, on the flanges, etc.) plating the metal surfaces to resist friction, rust, corrosion and other detrimental conditions. | ||
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| - | * Use wax on chrome fasteners as anti-seize compound. Works very well...probably as well as anti-seize in that application. ((cantolina of the XLFOUM http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=614423&highlight=tap+die)) | + | * Use wax on chrome fasteners as anti-seize compound. Works very well...probably as well as anti-seize in that application. ((cantolina of the XLFOUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=614423&highlight=tap+die)) |
| - | * If using new chrome nuts and bolt, you MUST use anti-seeze lube. Else they will gall together. ((joestuff of the XLFOUM http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=614423&highlight=tap+die)) | + | * If using new chrome nuts and bolt, you MUST use anti-seeze lube. Else they will gall together. ((joestuff of the XLFOUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=614423&highlight=tap+die)) |
| ===== Upon comparison, copper based anti-seize seems to be the best choice used on a Sportster ===== | ===== Upon comparison, copper based anti-seize seems to be the best choice used on a Sportster ===== | ||
| ===== The FSM points out areas to use anti-seize on: ===== | ===== The FSM points out areas to use anti-seize on: ===== | ||
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| ====== Loctite or Threadlocker ====== | ====== Loctite or Threadlocker ====== | ||
| + | See also [[techtalk:ref:tools123#wet_torque_value_chart_for_lubed_threads|Wet Torque Value Chart for Lubed Threads]] in the Tool section of the Sportsterpedia. \\ | ||
| * Thread locker liquids have been around for many years and the brand, Loctite, has seemed to come to be synonymous for all brands just as the word Coke has replaced the phrase meaning a carbonated drink in general language since Loctite was the original inventor of anaerobic technology. ((http://www.na.henkel-adhesives.com/us/content_data/316041_FINAL_LT4680_AAM_Do_It_Guide_v7.pdf)) Permatex also offers threadlocker formulas. Both of these companies do seem to share a certain conformity regarding colors/ strengths and applications. A threadlocker is an anaerobic adhesive used on threaded metals that cures at room temperature in the absence of air. The adhesive completely fills the gaps between mating threads to lock and seal the threaded assembly.((http://na.henkel-adhesives.com/industrial/threadlocker-loctite-13445.htm)) | * Thread locker liquids have been around for many years and the brand, Loctite, has seemed to come to be synonymous for all brands just as the word Coke has replaced the phrase meaning a carbonated drink in general language since Loctite was the original inventor of anaerobic technology. ((http://www.na.henkel-adhesives.com/us/content_data/316041_FINAL_LT4680_AAM_Do_It_Guide_v7.pdf)) Permatex also offers threadlocker formulas. Both of these companies do seem to share a certain conformity regarding colors/ strengths and applications. A threadlocker is an anaerobic adhesive used on threaded metals that cures at room temperature in the absence of air. The adhesive completely fills the gaps between mating threads to lock and seal the threaded assembly.((http://na.henkel-adhesives.com/industrial/threadlocker-loctite-13445.htm)) | ||
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| - | Based on article by olrump1 from the XLFORUM (([[http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=1972860]])) | + | Based on article by olrump1 from the XLFORUM (([[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1972860]])) |
