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hippysmack [Mod to Move Oil Scavenging to the Front on an S&S Pro Stock Case]
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hippysmack [Rubine's Mod to Move Oil Scavenging to the Front on an S&S Pro Stock Case]
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 ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-05G ======
-====== Mod to Move Oil Scavenging to the Front on an S&S Pro Stock Case ======
+====== Rubine's Mod to Move Oil Scavenging to the Front on an S&S Pro Stock Case ======
 Article by Rubine of the XLFORUM ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=16)) \\
-This is an upgraded oil return to change the scavenge to the front of the engine. \\
+This is an upgraded oil return to change the oil scavenging to the front of the engine. \\
+Also important to note is the engine was mounted on a 15 degree forward lean. \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:2000_custom_88_sport_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300  |}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=19)) \\
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 It also incorporates a modified 07 XL oil pump (modified by Charlie Karling of Karling Racing). \\
-{{:techtalk:ref:oil:karling_modded_07_oil_pump_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=10)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_24_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} \\
+See more on the [[techtalk:ref:oil05f|Karling Oil Pump Mod]] for the newer oil pumps here in the Sportsterpedia. \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:karling_modded_07_oil_pump_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=10)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_24_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} \\
 The fittings are all stainless and they're thin wall so no I.D. has been lost. Its actually been opened up a bit. \\
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 Black circle in the first pic below is where the cam chest drain will come out. \\
-{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_3_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=16)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_6_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=26)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_2_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=16))
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_3_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=16)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_6_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=26)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_2_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=16)) \\
-{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_1_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=16)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_5_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=26)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_4_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}}
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_1_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=16)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_5_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=26)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_4_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=17)) \\
 Scavenging is done by 2 separate things at the same time. \\
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 The plan is to drill and tap into the factory windage tray and the case at the front of the new tray with countersunk 1/4" UNC cap screws and 243 Loctite. \\
-{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_7_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=26))  {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_8_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=26))
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_7_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=26))  {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_8_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=26))
 To re-direct the oil to the front of the sump, \\
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 The sample is 16 x 8 x 2mm. \\
-{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_9_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_10_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28))
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_9_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_10_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28))
-{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_11_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28))
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_11_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28))
 With several attempts of trial and error and more tig welds, it's coming together. \\
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 The fins are more informed slightly thicker with consistent welds. \\
-{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_12_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_13_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_14_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28))
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_12_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_13_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_14_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=28))
 The windage tray was re-made also out of 3mm aluminum for a better countersink and the fin was redone based on arches are stronger than right angles. \\
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 Countersunk cap screws through the windage tray, through the factory tray, tapped into the mild steel underneath, where some extra material has been added to get a good ammount of thread area. And then at the back where the 90 degree bend is button head cap, threadded through the case out the other side, with a nyloc nut on the other side with plenty of Loctite 243. \\
-{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_15_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=32)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_16_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=32)) \\
+You can see the grooves cut into the trailing edge of the windage tray. \\
-{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_17_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=32)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_18_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=35)) \\
+<blockquote>I was watching Discovery channel about the barn owl, fascinating creatures, anyway they hunt at night and their prey relies on sound as a warning, so the owls have had to adapt to become silent fliers. To do this their wings trailing edges are not smooth like most birds, they are jagged and the feathers at the edges are rough. This lessens turbulence and vibration, which means no noise, and silent killers! Anyway it took about 10 minutes to do and I think it helps.
+My main concern is the oil not draining from the cam case, but I've got the tie bar to tap into if I have to.
+I also met a guy who (who is a glass blower) and makes all kinds of stills and refiners and what not for high spec chemical experiments etc. He has made me some brass fittings with a rubber o ring to hold a glass tube in place that he is blowing for me. Making two, both 19mm OD, and one of 14mm ID, and one with 11mm ID. He reckons it will be strong enough. Not sure if I trust glass on the open road though.
+But... will you be able to see anything, or when the motor is running will it just turn cloudy brown? If you shine a torch you can actually see the scavenge point inside the cases, through the tube. That would be nice to see with the engine running. Doubtful though.</blockquote>
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_15_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=32)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_16_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=32)) \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_17_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=32)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_18_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=35)) \\
+Below, the last bit for the cases is done includeing the glass drain. \\
+A straight piece bent 90 degrees was tried but it meant the outside of the bend was thin. \\
+So the guy got a straight piece of glass and cut it at 45 degrees then welded the two pieces together to make a 90 degree bend. \\
+The flywheel scraper was originally set at .015" from the flywheels but it was later moved slightly farther away. \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_19_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=36))
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_20_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=36))
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_21_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=41)) \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_23_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by rubine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1861960&page=42))
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:reversed_scavenging_location_25_by_rubine.jpg?direct&300|}}
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