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 ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication ====== ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication ======
 ====== Installing an Oil Pressure Gauge ====== ====== Installing an Oil Pressure Gauge ======
 +{{ :​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​oil_pressure_switch_threads_by_hippysmack.png?​direct&​300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) \\
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 The presence of oil pressure is usually measured by whether the oil light is on or not. \\ The presence of oil pressure is usually measured by whether the oil light is on or not. \\
 The so called, idiot light, simply lets you know that the oil pressure is high enough to actuate the oil pressure switch and then the light. \\ The so called, idiot light, simply lets you know that the oil pressure is high enough to actuate the oil pressure switch and then the light. \\
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 If it is not showing any pressure you need to find out why. \\ If it is not showing any pressure you need to find out why. \\
  
-Do not eliminate your oil light, this is your first and best indicator of proper oil flow. ((ryder rick of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=4)) \\+Do not eliminate your oil light, this is your first and best indicator of proper oil flow. ((ryder rick of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage/​page4?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=4)) \\
 Sportsters are dependent on flow volume instead of static pressure. \\ Sportsters are dependent on flow volume instead of static pressure. \\
  
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 That is what it takes to get the oil past the check valve / check ball and into the engine. \\ That is what it takes to get the oil past the check valve / check ball and into the engine. \\
 This allows the pump to deliver it's flow volume into the engine. \\ This allows the pump to deliver it's flow volume into the engine. \\
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 ====== Gauge Selection ====== ====== Gauge Selection ======
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 Glycerin filled gauges will withstand more vibration than non-liquid gauges. \\ Glycerin filled gauges will withstand more vibration than non-liquid gauges. \\
-====== Testing Locations and Matching PSI Specs in the FSM ====== 
  
 +====== Testing Locations and Matching PSI Specs in the FSM ======
 The FSMs for all years include suggested oil pressure figures for each model when testing. \\ The FSMs for all years include suggested oil pressure figures for each model when testing. \\
 Most FSMs suggest taking the oil pressure reading by removing the oil pressure switch and placing a gauge (or gauge line) there. \\ Most FSMs suggest taking the oil pressure reading by removing the oil pressure switch and placing a gauge (or gauge line) there. \\
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 However, you can fit a gauge in other places to simply show some pressure for peace of mind prior to each ride. \\ However, you can fit a gauge in other places to simply show some pressure for peace of mind prior to each ride. \\
 The gauge should show some pressure even if it's not to par with the manual. \\ The gauge should show some pressure even if it's not to par with the manual. \\
-Some say an oil pressure gauge makes a nice back-up to the oil light though. ((ironhead7777 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=3)) \\+Some say an oil pressure gauge makes a nice back-up to the oil light though. ((ironhead7777 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage/​page3?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=3)) \\
  
 ===== 57-85 models ===== ===== 57-85 models =====
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 {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_9_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} \\ {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_9_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} \\
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 +==== Testing at the rocker box ====
 +
 +A Sportster does produce oil pressure in the rocker box: reportedly 3-5 psi at hot idle and 15psi+ on cold startup on an ironhead. ((simeli of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage/​page4?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=4)) \\
 +Depending on the gauge selected, there may be little to no oil pressure registered on a high range gauge testing form the rocker box. \\
 +(the gauge may show some pressure when the oil is cool and thick but may not show any after 5 minutes of running) ((mycle1000 of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage/​page3?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=3)) \\
 +Due to the low oil pressure at the rocker box, \\
 +Don't get scared when you look down after its hot and its on zero. ((vyper202 of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​158701-fitting-rocker-box-oil-pressure-gauge?​t=1698960)) \\
 +
 +  * Residual crankcase pressure and working pressure from the oiling tubes resides in the rocker boxes.
 +    * On a cold startup, the pressure is higher due to the thicker oil present.
 +    * As the engine warms up, the oil thins out and the pressure is reduced in the rocker boxes.
 +    * Pulsating crankcase pressure (air and oil mist) resides over the entire breathing system as well as the rocker boxes. \\ (even though the crankcase pressure is vented through the cam cover).
 +    * So, it is possible to notice different pressures with a pressure gauge testing from the rocker box.
 +    * However, a gauge tapped into any rocker box will most likely measure air pressure instead of oil pressure.
 +    * As air will compress and oil will not, therefore the readings should be lower than if you were testing at the oil pressure switch.
 +    * Also oil ends up in the bottom of the rocker box to the head drains and air resides in the top of the box.
  
 ===== 86 and Up models ===== ===== 86 and Up models =====
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-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_3_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_4_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} \\+{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_3_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ​\\ 
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 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_4_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_10_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} \\
  
-==== Between ​the oil pump and the filter (86-Up) ​==== +==== Testing at the rocker box ====
-In 1986, the oil pressure switch was moved to an external feed side oil filter. \\ +
-Future feed oil from Evo oil pumps comes out of the pump to the filter pad. \\+
  
-Consequently it's not possible to block the pump outlet with a pressure gauge without starving the engine of oil. \\ +A Sportster does produce oil pressure in the rocker box. \\
-So installing a gauge on the oil pump fittings is not going to be very helpful. \\ +
-Also, installing a pressure gauge straight into a gauge will result in the pump building up enough pressure to destroy the gauge. \\ +
- +
-However, it is possible to install gauge in the feed line from the pump to the filter pad using a tee fitting. \\ +
-That way, as the pressure builds, it will both enter the gauge and the flow into the engine. \\ +
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-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} +
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_6_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_7_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} \\ +
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- +
-==== Rocker Box ==== +
- +
-A Sportster does produce oil pressure in the rocker box: reportedly 3-5 psi at hot idle and 15psi+ on cold startup on an ironhead((simeli of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=4)) ​\\+
 Depending on the gauge selected, there may be little to no oil pressure registered on a high range gauge testing form the rocker box. \\ Depending on the gauge selected, there may be little to no oil pressure registered on a high range gauge testing form the rocker box. \\
-(the gauge may show some pressure when the oil is cool and thick but may not show any after 5 minutes of running) ((mycle1000 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=3)) \\+(the gauge may show some pressure when the oil is cool and thick but may not show any after 5 minutes of running) ((mycle1000 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage/​page3?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=3)) \\
 Due to the low oil pressure at the rocker box, \\ Due to the low oil pressure at the rocker box, \\
-Don't get scared when you look down after its hot and its on zero. ((vyper202 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=1698960)) \\ +Don't get scared when you look down after its hot and its on zero. ((vyper202 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​158701-fitting-rocker-box-oil-pressure-gauge?​t=1698960)) \\
  
   * Residual crankcase pressure and working pressure from the lifters resides in the rocker boxes.   * Residual crankcase pressure and working pressure from the lifters resides in the rocker boxes.
     * On a cold startup, the pressure is higher due to the thicker oil present.     * On a cold startup, the pressure is higher due to the thicker oil present.
     * As the engine warms up, the oil thins out and the pressure is reduced in the rocker boxes.     * As the engine warms up, the oil thins out and the pressure is reduced in the rocker boxes.
-    * Excess ​crankcase pressure (air and oil mist) is vented differently between pre and post 91 engines.+    * Pulsating ​crankcase pressure (air and oil mist) is vented differently between pre and post 91 engines.
       * On pre 91 engines, excess crankcase pressure is vented through the cam cover.       * On pre 91 engines, excess crankcase pressure is vented through the cam cover.
       * On post 91 engines, excess crankcase pressure is routed up the pushrod tubes and vented thru the rocker boxes to exit a hole in each head.       * On post 91 engines, excess crankcase pressure is routed up the pushrod tubes and vented thru the rocker boxes to exit a hole in each head.
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     * However, a gauge tapped into any rocker box will most likely measure air pressure instead of oil pressure.     * However, a gauge tapped into any rocker box will most likely measure air pressure instead of oil pressure.
     * As air will compress and oil will not, therefore the readings should be lower than if you were testing at the oil pressure switch.     * As air will compress and oil will not, therefore the readings should be lower than if you were testing at the oil pressure switch.
 +    * Also oil ends up in the bottom of the rocker box to the head drains and air resides in the top of the box. \\
  
 +==== Testing between the oil pump and the filter ====
 +1985 and prior engines use an oil filter in the return side of the system after the oil exits the engine. \\
 +So an oil pressure gauge between the pump and filter would not tell you much about the engine feed oil. \\
  
 +In 1986, the oil pressure switch was moved to an external feed side oil filter. \\
 +Future feed oil from Evo oil pumps comes out of the pump to the filter pad. \\
 +Consequently it's not possible to block the pump outlet with a pressure gauge without starving the engine of oil. \\
 +So installing a gauge on the oil pump fittings is not going to be very helpful. \\
 +Also, installing a pressure gauge straight into a gauge will result in the pump building up enough pressure to destroy the gauge. \\
  
 +However, it is possible to install gauge in the feed line from the pump to the filter pad using a tee fitting. \\
 +That way, as the pressure builds, it will both enter the gauge and the flow into the engine. \\
  
-====== Expected Oil Pressure ======+{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} 
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_6_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_gauge_7_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} \\
  
 +====== Expected Oil Pressure ======
 See [[techtalk:​ref:​oil04#​sportster_oil_pressure_57_to_present|Sportster Oil Pressure (57 to Present)]] in the Sportsterpedia for noted oil pressures for all models. \\ See [[techtalk:​ref:​oil04#​sportster_oil_pressure_57_to_present|Sportster Oil Pressure (57 to Present)]] in the Sportsterpedia for noted oil pressures for all models. \\
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 ====== Pics of Test Point Locations ====== ====== Pics of Test Point Locations ======
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 ===== At Oil Pressure Switch ===== ===== At Oil Pressure Switch =====
 The oil pressure switch is directionally pointed differently on some year models. \\ The oil pressure switch is directionally pointed differently on some year models. \\
-For instance, 99-03 cases have the switch pointing down and 04-up is facing forward toward the frame slightly more so. ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​p=4429187)) \\+For instance, 99-03 cases have the switch pointing down and 04-up is facing forward toward the frame slightly more so. ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​150385-99-03-oil-gauge-install#​post3227007)) \\
 So you may need to modify the parts list below to suit the positional needs from different year models. \\ So you may need to modify the parts list below to suit the positional needs from different year models. \\
  
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 A 1/4" thick aluminum flat stock can be purchased from a hardware store for the gauge bracket. \\ A 1/4" thick aluminum flat stock can be purchased from a hardware store for the gauge bracket. \\
 Cut off 4" and drill 2 holes on each end. \\ Cut off 4" and drill 2 holes on each end. \\
-Round one end and paint it if you like. ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​p=4429187))+Round one end and paint it if you like. ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​150385-99-03-oil-gauge-install#​post3227007))
  
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-|Remove the oil filter and oil pressure switch. ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​p=4429187))|Install a 90° fitting where the pressure switch was. ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​p=4429187))|The fittings all together and ready to be put in place. \\ (in addition to the first 90° fitting) ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​p=4429187))|+|Remove the oil filter and oil pressure switch. ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​150385-99-03-oil-gauge-install#​post3227007))|Install a 90° fitting where the pressure switch was. ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​150385-99-03-oil-gauge-install#​post3227007))|The fittings all together and ready to be put in place. \\ (in addition to the first 90° fitting) ((photo by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​150385-99-03-oil-gauge-install#​post3227007))|
 |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_1_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_2_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_3_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_1_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_2_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_3_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
-|2nd 90° faces down to mount the oil pressure switch. Measure to position the fittings so the switch is clear of the frame and engine case. ((photos by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​p=4429187))|||+|2nd 90° faces down to mount the oil pressure switch. Measure to position the fittings so the switch is clear of the frame and engine case. ((photos by hellhound of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​150385-99-03-oil-gauge-install#​post3227007))|||
 |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_4_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_5_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_7_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_4_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_5_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_an_oil_pressure_gauge_7_by_hellhound.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
 ==== Alternate Fitting Positions at Filter Pad ==== ==== Alternate Fitting Positions at Filter Pad ====
-|This setup has the gauge line on the bottom and switch on top ((photos by Turbota of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=31188&​page=7))||+|This setup has the gauge line on the bottom and switch on top ((photos by Turbota of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​18786-installing-an-oil-press-guage-how-to-w-pics/​page7?​t=31188&​page=7))||
 |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_1_by_turbota.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_2_by_turbota.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_1_by_turbota.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_2_by_turbota.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
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 {{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​98_cam_chest_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) {{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​98_cam_chest_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack))
-====== ​IH ======+ 
 +===== At the Oil Pump ===== 
 +|Parts. ((photo by rocketmangb of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/​191936-todays-episode-of-what-the-hell-is-it?​t=2049680))| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_rig_2_by_rocketmangb.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 +  
 +|Hoses lengths. ((photo by rocketmangb of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/​191936-todays-episode-of-what-the-hell-is-it/​page2?​t=2049680&​page=2))|Hook one end to the filter pad. ((photo by rocketmangb of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/​191936-todays-episode-of-what-the-hell-is-it/​page2?​t=2049680&​page=2))|Hook the other end to the oil pump. ((photo by rocketmangb of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/​191936-todays-episode-of-what-the-hell-is-it/​page2?​t=2049680&​page=2))| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_rig_3_by_rocketmangb.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_rig_10_by_rocketmangb.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_rig_4_by_rocketmangb.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +|Hold or mount the gauge where you want it. ((photos by rocketmangb of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/​191936-todays-episode-of-what-the-hell-is-it/​page2?​t=2049680&​page=2))||| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_rig_5_by_rocketmangb.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_rig_6_by_rocketmangb.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_pressure_gauge_rig_9_by_rocketmangb.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +====== Ironheads ​======
  
 ===== At Oil Pressure Switch at Oil Pump ===== ===== At Oil Pressure Switch at Oil Pump =====
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 This will keep the switch and the oil light inline and working if you need it. \\ This will keep the switch and the oil light inline and working if you need it. \\
  
-|  Piping added to include the gauge and the oil pressure switch ((photos by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​page=2&​t=1694351)) ​ ||+|  Piping added to include the gauge and the oil pressure switch ((photos by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​158361-oil-pressure-gauge/​page2?​page=2&​t=1694351)) ​ ||
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 Remove the oil pressure switch from oil pump and install an 1/8" hose or tee fitting, then an 1/8" the hose to the oil gauge. \\ Remove the oil pressure switch from oil pump and install an 1/8" hose or tee fitting, then an 1/8" the hose to the oil gauge. \\
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 Mount the oil gauge where it can be seen during operation. \\ Mount the oil gauge where it can be seen during operation. \\
 You can use a flexible braided rocker box oil lines and mounted the gauge just off of the forward controls or on the downtube. \\ You can use a flexible braided rocker box oil lines and mounted the gauge just off of the forward controls or on the downtube. \\
-|  Oil pressure gauge on a 75 model downtube ((photos by Dieselox4 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=1456449)) ​ ||+|  Oil pressure gauge on a 75 model downtube ((photos by Dieselox4 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​134952-where-how-to-mount-custom-oil-pressure-gauge?​t=1456449)) ​ ||
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-|  Oil pressure gauge on a 74 model mounted down low by the forward controls ((photos by Ivan RoachCoach of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=4)) ​ ||+|  Oil pressure gauge on a 74 model mounted down low by the forward controls ((photos by Ivan RoachCoach of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage/​page4?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=4)) ​ ||
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 ===== At Plug Between the Tappets ===== ===== At Plug Between the Tappets =====
 On some models there is a plugged hole between the tappets. \\ On some models there is a plugged hole between the tappets. \\
-The plug was removed and a gauge was installed to measure pressure inside the case. ((photos by Joesdaddy of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​p=4112107)) \\+The plug was removed and a gauge was installed to measure pressure inside the case. ((photos by Joesdaddy of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​136399-case-plug#​post3002533)) \\
  
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 +
 ===== At Rocker Box ===== ===== At Rocker Box =====
-This was done on the rear rocker box of a 77 model Sportster. ((photo by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) \\ +This was done on the rear rocker box of a 77 model Sportster. ((photo by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) \\ 
-With the engine in the bike, simply remove the rocker shaft end plug and screwed in the adapter and the gauge. ((mycle1000 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=3)) \\+With the engine in the bike, simply remove the rocker shaft end plug and screwed in the adapter and the gauge. ((mycle1000 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage/​page3?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump&​page=3)) \\
 There is no need to remove the heads. \\ There is no need to remove the heads. \\
  
 Use Foghollow adapter (H80409) or similar. \\ Use Foghollow adapter (H80409) or similar. \\
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_a_rocker_box_oil_guage_8_by_russzx6.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​rocker_box_pressure_gauge_1_by_paulc.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by paulc of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=1698960)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​rocker_box_pressure_gauge_2_by_paulc.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by paulc of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=1698960))+{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​installing_a_rocker_box_oil_guage_8_by_russzx6.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​rocker_box_pressure_gauge_1_by_paulc.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by paulc of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​158701-fitting-rocker-box-oil-pressure-gauge?​t=1698960)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​rocker_box_pressure_gauge_2_by_paulc.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by paulc of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​158701-fitting-rocker-box-oil-pressure-gauge?​t=1698960))
  
-The end plug was removed and replaced with a gauge adaptor. The gauge will be installed there. ((photos by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) \\+The end plug was removed and replaced with a gauge adaptor. The gauge will be installed there. ((photos by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) \\
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 The lubricated shaft was fitted back into the rocker box. Be sure that the spring and spacer washer are in place. \\ The lubricated shaft was fitted back into the rocker box. Be sure that the spring and spacer washer are in place. \\
 Fit the O-ring and gauge adaptor and lightly screw up by hand. You can use a bit of rubber grease on the O-ring to make it slide into the rocker box nicely. \\ Fit the O-ring and gauge adaptor and lightly screw up by hand. You can use a bit of rubber grease on the O-ring to make it slide into the rocker box nicely. \\
-Fit the aluminum shaft washer and dome nut. You can also put a bit of Permatex silicone on each side of the washer, as this doesn'​t spin once it tightened up. ((photos by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) \\+Fit the aluminum shaft washer and dome nut. You can also put a bit of Permatex silicone on each side of the washer, as this doesn'​t spin once it tightened up. ((photos by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) \\
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Line 217: Line 242:
 Tightening each side slowly allows the O-ring to slide into the rocker box and not catch on an edge. \\ Tightening each side slowly allows the O-ring to slide into the rocker box and not catch on an edge. \\
 Tighten to specs and wipe off the excess Permatex on that one end. Add a bit of liquid thread sealant on the gauge threads. \\ Tighten to specs and wipe off the excess Permatex on that one end. Add a bit of liquid thread sealant on the gauge threads. \\
-Make sure the angle of the gauge is good from your sitting position. You can back off the shaft nut and relocated the shaft if needed. ((photos by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) \\+Make sure the angle of the gauge is good from your sitting position. You can back off the shaft nut and relocated the shaft if needed. ((photos by russzx6 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​54570-step-by-step-fitting-a-rocker-box-pressure-guage?​t=263589&​highlight=lower+oil+pump)) \\
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 ====== Gauge Mount Locations ====== ====== Gauge Mount Locations ======
  
-|Arlen Ness mounting kit and VDO gauge. ((photos by Folkie of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=31188&​page=7))|||+|Arlen Ness mounting kit and VDO gauge. ((photos by Folkie of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​18786-installing-an-oil-press-guage-how-to-w-pics/​page7?​t=31188&​page=7))|||
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-|Gauge mounted at the downtube ((photos by Turbota of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=31188&​page=7))|||+|Gauge mounted at the downtube ((photos by Turbota of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​18786-installing-an-oil-press-guage-how-to-w-pics/​page7?​t=31188&​page=7))|||
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-|Gauge mounted on the enrichner ​ bracket with an \\ L shaped bracket from an old carb support. ((photo by dodgenbullets of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?t=35347))|+|Gauge mounted on the enrichner ​ bracket with an \\ L shaped bracket from an old carb support. ((photo by dodgenbullets of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​21415-oil-pressure-gauge?t=35347))|
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