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-====== REF: Paint  ​======+====== REF: Custom Painting ​====== 
 +\\ 
 +====== Painting - Gun Coatings ====== 
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 +====== Using KG Industries Stock Kote ======
 +KG Coatings web site: [[https://​shop.kgcoatings.com/​kg/​]]
  
  
 +These were done with KG Industries Stock Kote 1201S Air Cure Satin Black. \\
 +This stuff is a one part no bake water based coating made for painting gun parts that cannot be baked at high temperature. \\
 +The paint is easy to apply, cleans up with cold water and the whole project only used about 2oz. of paint. \\
 +KG claims this paint is pretty much impervious to heat, abrasion and all kinds of solvents. \\
  
-The work involved in powder coating is about 90% Prep. ((mct496 of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1617845&​page=2)) \\ +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​using_kg_stock_kote_1_by_bustakneecap.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
-It's good to bake parts before powder coating at a higher temp than you would powder coat at to bake the impurities out of it. \\ +
-Also you can flash heat the parts with a propane torch to clear any moisture that may have been attracted to the cleaned part. ((simeli of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1617845&​page=2)) \\ +
-And preheat any tight areas and drop the powder on the gun as you coat to make sure that it gets coverage there as well. \\ +
- +
-====== Ovens Used ====== +
-You can use a gutted and steel lined upright freezer for an oven. ((flippindakgb of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1617845&​page=2)) \\  +
- +
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_in_the_oven_by_chuckthebeatertruck.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Chuckthebeatertruck of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1820462&​page=9))  +
-===== Homemade Cabinet Oven ===== +
- +
-Homemade powder coating cabinet made by XLFORUM member simeli: \\ +
-Using 5000 watts of heater element it reaches 450° in 15 minutes. \\ +
-<​blockquote>​I allowed it to stay hot for 45 minutes before shutting it down 2 hours later it was still 180 degrees inside the box.</​blockquote>​  +
- +
-  * 220V, 108 sq. ft. of rock wool insulation, 33 cu.ft +
-  * 20 gauge steel for the heat box faced with cement board +
-  * 4 inches of space packed with 70 sq.ft. of insulation +
-  * The door face is 20 gauge steel (as is the surroundings) with 1-1/2" of space with 30 sq.ft. of insulation packed into it.  +
-  * 1/4" gasket on the surroundings. +
-  * Metal studs +
- +
-Door latches were not installed in the pics below but jack straps were used in their absence. \\ +
-Total cost: about $497 (not counting the door latches) \\ +
- +
-The heat is supplied from the bottom and one side causing a natural air rotation inside the box. \\ +
-In testing, ther was around 10 degree difference in the temp of the rails (rack supports). \\ +
-(which is actually less than the temp rise and fall between heating cycles) \\ +
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-The only "​glue"​ that is used is 3M "​77"​. \\ +
-(on the outside of the inner box (steel) and the inside of the outer box (plywood) which is cover with aluminum foil) \\ +
-The gasket is attached using RTV red and was cooked out during testing. \\ +
-The cement board is attached by pop rivets and bolts. It was also cooked out during testing. \\ +
-The oven is also used to gas out the parts during the cleaning process, so everything is gassed out before any coating is done. \\ +
-Flash heating with propane gets the metal hot enough so that any moisture is evaporated. \\ +
-Also any lint or dust that may be present is burned off. \\ +
-Powder is applied quickly after flashing or in the case of larger pieces flashing continues ahead of the powder. \\ +
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-In use is a regular household style oven controller. \\ +
-But there are four of the internal oven thermometers that will be mounted inside. \\ +
-Plus an external probe thermometer that goes through the door (noticed in the pictures below). \\ +
-It should be about 30-35 minutes of actual time to watch the work and manually control. +
- +
-|  Homemade powder coating cabinet. ((photos by simeli of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1617845)) ​ |||| +
-|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​homemade_powder_coat_oven_1_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​200|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​homemade_powder_coat_oven_2_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​200|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​homemade_powder_coat_oven_3_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​200|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​homemade_powder_coat_oven_4_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​200|}}| +
- +
-====== Pics of Powder Coated Parts ====== +
-\\+
  
-===== Frame ===== +Following directions, ​the paint was applied in six to seven very light coats with a paint gun at 35 psi\\ 
-|  Prep  ((photo by simeli of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1617845&​page=3)) ​ | +The hair dryer was used to keep the parts warm in between coats\\
-|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_1_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|+
  
-|  After Pics((photos by simeli of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1617845&​page=3)) ​ ||| +The parts to be painted were sanded smooth and sandblasted with StarBlast at 30psi then cleaned and de-greased with acetone\\ 
-|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_2_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_3_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_4_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| +The manufacturer says the parts need to be heated to between 110°F- 120°F\\ 
-|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_5_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_6_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_7_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|+The problem is some ovens don'go that low. \\ 
 +So this box was made up with a plastic bag, grill thermometer and a hair dryer\\ 
 +The hair dryer was turned on high until it reached the desired temp then switched to low speed to maintain temp\\ 
 +(for ten minutes or so to heat the aluminum all the way through) \\
  
-===== Fuel Tank =====+If the parts are warm it tacks up almost instantly. \\ 
 +It goes on pretty thin (first three coats were light enough to still see metal through them. \\ 
 +Later, the parts were warmed the hair dryer, sprayed using an airbrush then dried with the hair dryer. \\ 
 +As for dust, just keep the parts on clean paper and the dryer close to the part. \\
  
-|  Powder coated fuel tank. ((photos by simeli of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1617845&​page=4)) ​  ||| 
-|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coated_fuel_tank_1_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coated_fuel_tank_2_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coated_fuel_tank_3_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
-===== Carburetor ===== 
  
-|  ​Before. ((photo by raptor30se ​of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=351161)) ​ |  Prep ((photo by raptor30se of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?t=351161))  | +|  ​The process. ((photos ​by bustakneecap ​of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-styles/sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/132716-gun-kote-1200?t=1421886))  ​||
-|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_carb_1_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_carb_2_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|+|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​using_kg_stock_kote_2_by_bustakneecap.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​using_kg_stock_kote_3_by_bustakneecap.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​using_kg_stock_kote_4_by_bustakneecap.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
-|  ​Individual parts powder coated and installed with the intake manifold done as well. ((photos by raptor30se ​of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?t=351161))  ​||| +|  ​The finished products. ((photos by bustakneecap ​of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​132716-gun-kote-1200?t=1421886))  || 
-|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_carb_3_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_carb_4_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_intake_manifold_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|+|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​using_kg_stock_kote_5_by_bustakneecap.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​using_kg_stock_kote_6_by_bustakneecap.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​using_kg_stock_kote_7_by_bustakneecap.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​using_kg_stock_kote_8_by_bustakneecap.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
  
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