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techtalk:ref:tools025 [2020/05/23 23:46]
hippysmack [Using a Torque Wrench]
techtalk:ref:tools025 [2022/09/09 20:48]
hippysmack [Torque Wrench Care and Usage, Related Charts and Information]
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 ====== Torque Wrench Care and Usage, Related Charts and Information ====== ====== Torque Wrench Care and Usage, Related Charts and Information ======
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 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​torque_wrench_gif_by_hippysmack.gif?​direct|}} ((animation by Hippysmack)) \\
  
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 {{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​torque_wrench_maintenance_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​torque_wrench_maintenance_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\ {{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​torque_wrench_maintenance_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​torque_wrench_maintenance_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\
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 +Related videos:
 +  * [[https://​www.youtube.com/​watch?​v=DQdOgW0Vl5Y|Clicker type torque wrench repair]] (includes disassembly)
  
 ====== Torque Wrench and Accuracy ====== ====== Torque Wrench and Accuracy ======
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   * Beam wrench:   * Beam wrench:
     * As you pull tighter, you will notice the handle bend slightly. \\ This calibrated bending is the result of applied torque. Watch the end of the needle located just above the handle. \\ As the beam bends, the needle points to the amount of torque being applied.     * As you pull tighter, you will notice the handle bend slightly. \\ This calibrated bending is the result of applied torque. Watch the end of the needle located just above the handle. \\ As the beam bends, the needle points to the amount of torque being applied.
 +    * Continue to turn the fastener, and allow the handle to rotate so that the pivot is the only thing contacting the beam. \\ Some handles have a pivot piece that you actually are holding. \\ Arrange it so the handle '​floats'​ with you instead of cocking sideways against the bending beam.
     * Keep your eyes looking straight at the center bar end and the torque scale. \\ It's hard to impossible to judge when the pointer is on the right value looking from the side.     * Keep your eyes looking straight at the center bar end and the torque scale. \\ It's hard to impossible to judge when the pointer is on the right value looking from the side.
  
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 If you turn the crows foot at a 90° angle, there is no increase in torque to the fastener from the preset scale. \\ If you turn the crows foot at a 90° angle, there is no increase in torque to the fastener from the preset scale. \\
  
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​torque_with_a_crows_foot.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\+{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​torque_with_a_crows_foot_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\
  
  
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 The invent of the clicker type torque wrench took the focus away from '​feeling'​ what you are doing while tightening. \\ The invent of the clicker type torque wrench took the focus away from '​feeling'​ what you are doing while tightening. \\
 Try and develop a '​feel'​ for when enough is enough especially if using a clicker type wrench. \\ Try and develop a '​feel'​ for when enough is enough especially if using a clicker type wrench. \\
-If the wrench fails to click, and many of them do on the low end of their scale, you can break something simply waiting for the click. \\+If the wrench fails to click, and many of them do on the low end of their scale especially, you can break something simply waiting for the click. \\
  
 ====== Clamp Force ====== ====== Clamp Force ======
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     * Sometimes (snug up to “firm plus a little more”) ((IronMick)) goes a long way.  ​     * Sometimes (snug up to “firm plus a little more”) ((IronMick)) goes a long way.  ​
  
 +One of these bolts was broken off in a rocker box. The others were damaged but not broken. \\
 +These bolts were damaged due to a clicker wrench not operating properly. \\ 
 +The person using the torque wrench felt it happening yet kept pulling awaiting the click. \\
 +"I did notice before it snapped that it kind of spun for a second, then broke. One of the other bolts did the same thing and I stopped immediately."​ ((JeeperJay of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1210515&​highlight=rocker+box+bolts&​page=2)) \\
 +Any time you have any amount of thread damage or bolt stretch, replace the bolts. \\
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 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​broken_bolts_by_jeeperjay.jpeg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by JeeperJay of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1210515&​highlight=rocker+box+bolts&​page=2)) \\
 ====== Torque Range ====== ====== Torque Range ======
  
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   * These are only generalized specs that do not take into account the difference in steel and aluminum threading. See your FSM or instruction manual for specific torque values per application.   * These are only generalized specs that do not take into account the difference in steel and aluminum threading. See your FSM or instruction manual for specific torque values per application.
  
 +|  **Steel Fasteners** ​ |||||||||||
 ^Size/​Grade^1/​4"​^5/​16"​^3/​8"​^7/​16"​^1/​2"​^9/​16"​^5/​8"​^3/​4"​^7/​8"​^1"​^ ^Size/​Grade^1/​4"​^5/​16"​^3/​8"​^7/​16"​^1/​2"​^9/​16"​^5/​8"​^3/​4"​^7/​8"​^1"​^
 |SAE 2|6|12|20|32|47|69|96|155|206|310((Clymer 2004-2013 HD Sportster Repair Manual))| |SAE 2|6|12|20|32|47|69|96|155|206|310((Clymer 2004-2013 HD Sportster Repair Manual))|
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 |SAE 7|13|25|44|71|110|154|215|360|570|840((Clymer 2004-2013 HD Sportster Repair Manual))| |SAE 7|13|25|44|71|110|154|215|360|570|840((Clymer 2004-2013 HD Sportster Repair Manual))|
 |SAE 8|14|29|47|78|119|169|230|380|600|700((Clymer 2004-2013 HD Sportster Repair Manual))| |SAE 8|14|29|47|78|119|169|230|380|600|700((Clymer 2004-2013 HD Sportster Repair Manual))|
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 +**The following torque values (from engineersedge.com) are suggested maximums based upon actual lab testing on clean and dry or near dry fasteners**. ((https://​www.engineersedge.com/​material_science/​torque_values_stainless_steel_13353.htm)) \\ 
 +For other friction conditions, significant modifications may be required. \\
  
 +The following chart is a reprint from this site. \\
  
 +|  **Torque Values for Stainless Steel and Nonferrous Fasteners (inch series)** ​ |||||||
 +^Bolt Size^18-8 Stainless Steel \\ Torque in-lbs^316 Stainless Steel \\ Torque in-lbs^Silicon Bronze \\ Torque in-lbs^Monel \\ Torque in-lbs^Brass \\ Torque in-lbs^2024-T4 Aluminum \\ Torque in-lbs^
 +|4-40|5.2|5.5|4.8|5.3|4.3|2.9|
 +|4-48|6.6|6.9|6.1|6.7|5.4|3.6|
 +|5-40|7.7|8.1|7.1|7.8|6.3|4.2|
 +|5-44|9.4|9.8|8.7|9.6|7.7|5.1|
 +|6-32|9.6|10.1|8.9|9.8|7.9|5.3|
 +|6-40|12.1|12.7|11.2|12.3|9.9|6.6|
 +|8-32|19.8|20.7|18.4|20.2|16.2|10.8|
 +|8-36|22|23|20.4|22.4|18.0|12.0|
 +|10-24|22.8|23.8|21.2|25.9|18.6|13.8|
 +|10-32|31.7|33.1|29.3|34.9|25.9|19.2|
 +|1/​4-20|75.2|78.8|68.8|85.3|61.5|45.6|
 +|1/​4-28|94|99|87|106|77|57|
 +|5/​16-18|132|138|123|149|107|80|
 +|5/​16-24|142|147|131|160|116|86|
 +|3/​8-16|236|247|219|266|192|143|
 +|3/​8-24|259|271|240|294|212|157|
 +|7/​16-14|376|393|349|427|317|228|
 +|7/​16-20|400|418|371|451|327|242|
 +^Bolt Size^18-8 Stainless Steel \\ Torque ft-lbs^316 Stainless Steel \\ Torque ft-lbs^Silicon Bronze \\ Torque ft-lbs^Monel \\ Torque ft-lbs^Brass \\ Torque ft-lbs^2024-T4 Aluminum \\ Torque ft-lbs^
 +|1/​2-13|43|45|40|48.7|35.2|26|
 +|1/​2-20|45|47|42|51|37|27|
 +|9/​16-12|56|59|53|65|47|34|
 +|9/​16-18|62|65|58|71|51|38|
 +|5/​8-11|92|96|86|111|76|60|
 +|5/​8-18|103|108|96|123|85|67|
 +|3/​4-10|127|131|118|153|104|82|
 +|3/​4-16|124|129|115|149|102|80|
 +|7/​8-9|194|202|178|231|159|124|
 +|7/​8-14|193|201|177|230|158|124|
 +|1 - 8|286|299|265|344|235|184|
 +|1 - 14|259|270|240|311|212|166|
  
 ===== Wet Torque Value Chart for Lubed Threads From Allied Systems ===== ===== Wet Torque Value Chart for Lubed Threads From Allied Systems =====