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hippysmack [Scotchbrite Pads]
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 ====== Buffers and Accessories ====== ====== Buffers and Accessories ======
 ====== Buffing Machines ====== ====== Buffing Machines ======
 +See also [[techtalk:​ref:​svcproc45#​polishing_aluminum_and_stainless_steel|Polishing Aluminum and Stainless Steel]] in the Sportsterpedia.
  
 ===== Using a Benchtop Buffer ===== ===== Using a Benchtop Buffer =====
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 A bench buffer is great if you can take the part to it. That does limit it's use somewhat however. \\ A bench buffer is great if you can take the part to it. That does limit it's use somewhat however. \\
  
 Keep seperate buffing wheels so you don't cross contaminate polishing compounds. \\ Keep seperate buffing wheels so you don't cross contaminate polishing compounds. \\
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 Apply the polishing compound onto the wheel. It doesn'​t take much. \\ Apply the polishing compound onto the wheel. It doesn'​t take much. \\
  
-You can tell when you need to apply more from how clean the polish surface starts becoming. ((biknut of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=494417&​page=2)) \\+You can tell when you need to apply more from how clean the polish surface starts becoming. ((biknut of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​72042-i-hate-aluminum-polishing-content/​page2?​t=494417&​page=2)) \\
  
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-|  Polishing a rocker box top with a benchtop buffer ((photos by biknut of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?t=494417)) ((http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?p=2624171))  ||+|  Polishing a rocker box top with a benchtop buffer ((photos by biknut of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​72042-i-hate-aluminum-polishing-content?t=494417)) ((https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​96095-ali-polishing#​post1999217)) ​ || 
 + 
 +===== Using a Bench Grinder ===== 
 +You can put an auger on a bench grinder for a buffing pad\\ 
 +Apply alloy polishing soap (hold onto pad) and work away. Reapply soap every 30-60 seconds. \\ 
 +Work in multiple directions. Then polish with jeweler'​s rouge soap and finish with a wool buff on drill and chrome polish. \\ 
 + 
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​benchtop_polisher_1_by_aussiegazza.jpg?direct&​300|}} ((photo by AussieGazza of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/​87710-aussiegazzas-rebuild/​page3?​t=692835&​page=3)) \\ 
 + 
 +===== Using a Hand Buffer ===== 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​hand_buffer_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
 ===== Using a Dremil Rotary Tool (or similar) ===== ===== Using a Dremil Rotary Tool (or similar) =====
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 The smaller pads can run at faster speeds. Most of the pads come in either 3/8" or 7/8" OD. \\ The smaller pads can run at faster speeds. Most of the pads come in either 3/8" or 7/8" OD. \\
 Obviously the 7/8" pads last much longer if you run them at the right speed. \\ Obviously the 7/8" pads last much longer if you run them at the right speed. \\
-Top speed on them wouldn'​t be much over about 15,000 RPMs or the wool polishing wheels will start flying apart on you. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2070932)) ​+Top speed on them wouldn'​t be much over about 15,000 RPMs or the wool polishing wheels will start flying apart on you. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​194649-metal-polishing?​t=2070932)) ​
  
-These are nice for getting into small areas but they can leave swirlies that have to be rubbed out. ((ReddTigger of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=494417&​page=3)) \\+These are nice for getting into small areas but they can leave swirlies that have to be rubbed out. ((ReddTigger of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​72042-i-hate-aluminum-polishing-content/​page3?​t=494417&​page=3)) \\
 You can control the swirls if you use the wool polishing pads and the buffing compound. \\ You can control the swirls if you use the wool polishing pads and the buffing compound. \\
 Try running it at little slower speed if it is still leaving swirls. Keep the pressure real light. \\ Try running it at little slower speed if it is still leaving swirls. Keep the pressure real light. \\
 Let the compound do the work. Move slowly back and forth with the pads. \\ Let the compound do the work. Move slowly back and forth with the pads. \\
-Straight line movement just like sanding wood grain and there should not be any swirls at all. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2070932&​page=2)) \\+Straight line movement just like sanding wood grain and there should not be any swirls at all. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​194649-metal-polishing/​page2?​t=2070932&​page=2)) \\
  
 The 1" buffing bits will fit most places and the small 3/8" felt bullet shapes fit into most screw recesses. ((https://​www.chuckhawks.com/​harley_polish.htm)) \\ The 1" buffing bits will fit most places and the small 3/8" felt bullet shapes fit into most screw recesses. ((https://​www.chuckhawks.com/​harley_polish.htm)) \\
  
 |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​dremil_and_sander_by_graywolf.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​high_speed_grinder_and_hard_felt_wheel_by_piniongear.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​polishing_stainless_76._by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​dremil_and_sander_by_graywolf.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​high_speed_grinder_and_hard_felt_wheel_by_piniongear.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​polishing_stainless_76._by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
-|  Dremil rotary tool and palm sander ((photo by Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2070932)) ​ |  High speed grinder and hard felt wheel ((photo by piniongear of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​p=2779433))  |  Dremil tool cut and polish action ((photo by Hippysmack)) ​ |+|  Dremil rotary tool and palm sander ((photo by Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​194649-metal-polishing?​t=2070932)) ​ |  High speed grinder and hard felt wheel ((photo by piniongear of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​101191-polishing-aluminum/​page3#​post2104990))  |  Dremil tool cut and polish action ((photo by Hippysmack)) ​ |
  
 ===== Using an Electric Drill ===== ===== Using an Electric Drill =====
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 Those wheels won't fit into all the little spaces, so this is also limiting. \\ Those wheels won't fit into all the little spaces, so this is also limiting. \\
  
-A felt buffing pad works well (better than a thumb and wider than a dremel, so no little swirls). ((ReddTigger of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=494417&​page=3)) \\+A felt buffing pad works well (better than a thumb and wider than a dremel, so no little swirls). ((ReddTigger of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​72042-i-hate-aluminum-polishing-content/​page3?​t=494417&​page=3)) \\
  
  
 |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​flexible_drill_attachment_by_biknut.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| |{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​flexible_drill_attachment_by_biknut.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
-|  Flexible drill attachment ((photo by biknut of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=875462&​page=2)) ​ |+|  Flexible drill attachment ((photo by biknut of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​101191-polishing-aluminum/​page2?​t=875462&​page=2)) ​ |
  
 ====== Wheels / Pads ====== ====== Wheels / Pads ======
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 They twist onto the shaft like a nut on a bolt. \\ They twist onto the shaft like a nut on a bolt. \\
 The shaft doesn'​t go all the way through the pad. \\ The shaft doesn'​t go all the way through the pad. \\
-Eventually and after heavy use, the pads will split down the middle or twist the center out and fly apart. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2070932)) \\+Eventually and after heavy use, the pads will split down the middle or twist the center out and fly apart. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​194649-metal-polishing?​t=2070932)) \\
  
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 Alternately,​ you can save all the worn out and broken shafts from Dremel rasps and small grinding disks. \\ Alternately,​ you can save all the worn out and broken shafts from Dremel rasps and small grinding disks. \\
 Then, re-use them as a mount for the wool polishing pads using epoxy to keep them on. \\ Then, re-use them as a mount for the wool polishing pads using epoxy to keep them on. \\
-The old grinding disk axles can be pushed all the way through the polishing pads and they don't split down the middle so bad. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2070932)) \\ +The old grinding disk axles can be pushed all the way through the polishing pads and they don't split down the middle so bad. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​194649-metal-polishing?​t=2070932)) \\
  
 Once the pad is worn out, just install another one on it. \\ Once the pad is worn out, just install another one on it. \\
-To make the pads last longer, you can use JB Weld epoxy to mount them on the original shafts. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2070932)) \\+To make the pads last longer, you can use JB Weld epoxy to mount them on the original shafts. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​194649-metal-polishing?​t=2070932)) \\
  
 **Buying in bulk**: \\ **Buying in bulk**: \\
  
 For about the same price as you pay for 6 of the Dremil pads, you can order a big bag of 100 polishing pads (including a few mandrels) online (Amazon, Ebay and etc.). \\ For about the same price as you pay for 6 of the Dremil pads, you can order a big bag of 100 polishing pads (including a few mandrels) online (Amazon, Ebay and etc.). \\
-They are the same pads, same quality, and last the same. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2070932)) \\+They are the same pads, same quality, and last the same. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​194649-metal-polishing?​t=2070932)) \\
  
 Below are some wool polishing pads that were glued to mandrels. \\ Below are some wool polishing pads that were glued to mandrels. \\
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 But you need to let them cure over night before use for best results. \\ But you need to let them cure over night before use for best results. \\
 The two smaller ones laying down behind them are 3/8" pads. \\ The two smaller ones laying down behind them are 3/8" pads. \\
-They are good for getting in tight places. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2070932)) \\+They are good for getting in tight places. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​194649-metal-polishing?​t=2070932)) \\
  
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-|  Polishing wheels for Dremil type tools ((photo by Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2070932)) ​ | +|  Polishing wheels for Dremil type tools ((photo by Graywolf of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​sportster-motorcycle-custom-finishing/​194649-metal-polishing?​t=2070932)) ​ | 
 ====== Wheel Rake ====== ====== Wheel Rake ======
 Loading too much polish on the wheel smudges and doesn'​t help you cut the metal. \\ Loading too much polish on the wheel smudges and doesn'​t help you cut the metal. \\
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 Start by wetting the pad with water and dish soap. \\ Start by wetting the pad with water and dish soap. \\
 Go over a given part in one direction for the green pad, rinse thoroughly. \\ Go over a given part in one direction for the green pad, rinse thoroughly. \\
-Then go over the part again at a 90° angle for the next finer grade pad. ((HOMER308 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​threadid=925547)) \\+Then go over the part again at a 90° angle for the next finer grade pad. ((HOMER308 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​104558-aluminum-polishing-new-method-for-badly-oxidized-parts?​threadid=925547)) \\
 Repeat until you're satisfied with the finish. \\  Repeat until you're satisfied with the finish. \\ 
  
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     * Gray (ultra fine grade)     * Gray (ultra fine grade)
  
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-|  ​Scotchbrite ​Grades ((photo by HOMER308 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​threadid=925547)) ​ |+|  ​Scotch-Brite ​Grades ((photo by HOMER308 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​104558-aluminum-polishing-new-method-for-badly-oxidized-parts?​threadid=925547)) ​ |  Heavy duty Scotch-Brite ((photo by Hippysmack)) ​ | 
 + 
 +Here is a general chart with different Scotchbrite grades: \\ 
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​scotchbritefinish2_by_homer308.jpg?​direct&​700|}} ((photo by HOMER308 of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​104558-aluminum-polishing-new-method-for-badly-oxidized-parts/​page2?​t=925547&​page=2))  
 + 
 +====== Roloc Surface Conditioning Disc ====== 
 +Manufacturer:​ Scotch-Brite. 
 +  * Non-woven disc aggressively deburrs and finishes on all metals. ((https://​www.3m.com/​3M/​en_US/​company-us/​all-3m-products/​~/​Scotch-Brite-Roloc-Surface-Conditioning-Disc/?​N=5002385+3293241340&​rt=rud)) 
 +  * Grades: coarse, medium, super fine and very fine.  
 +  * Combined with Roloc backing, allows for aggressive cutting. 
 +  * Open-web construction resists loading and runs cool allowing for consistent finishes. 
 +  * 3M™ Roloc™ attachment system offers quick and easy disc change-out for multi-step finishing processes. 
 +  * Silicon carbide abrasive: 
 +    * Silicon carbide is a synthetic mineral that is very sharp and commonly used for low-pressure applications such as paint prep and finishing. \\ While silicon carbide breaks down faster than aluminum oxide, it produces a finer finish. 
 +  * Aluminum oxide abrasive: 
 +    * Aluminum oxide is a hard, blocky mineral that provides high cut-rate and long life. 
 +  * Mandrel and rubber backing pad are a separate item to the disks. 
 +  * Used for deburring, blending, finishing, grinding and surface prep.  
 +  * Also can be used to deepen the valve clearance eyebrows in the heads (if required). ((AussieGazza of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/​87710-aussiegazzas-rebuild/​page3?​t=692835&​page=3))
  
-Here is a chart with different Scotchbrite grades: \\ +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​roloc_disk_1_by_aussigazza.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by AussieGazza ​of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=692835&page=3)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​roloc_disk_2_by_aussigazza.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by AussieGazza of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/​87710-aussiegazzas-rebuild/​page3?​t=692835&​page=3)) \\
-{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​scotchbritefinish2_by_homer308.jpg?​direct&​700|}} ((photo by HOMER308 ​of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=925547&page=2)) +
  
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