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techtalk:ref:wheels03a [2019/04/18 02:22]
hippysmack [Notes regarding brake fluid]
techtalk:ref:wheels03a [2019/04/22 02:33]
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 Also reference the [[techtalk:​ref:​wheels03#​brake_fluid|Brake Fluid]] article in the REF section of the Sportsterpedia for type per year model, specs, mixing fluids etc. \\ Also reference the [[techtalk:​ref:​wheels03#​brake_fluid|Brake Fluid]] article in the REF section of the Sportsterpedia for type per year model, specs, mixing fluids etc. \\
  
 +  * **Make sure you do regular brake fluid changes according to the FSM change intervals**. \\ If the bike has sat for a long period of time, it's best to go ahead and plan on changing both front and rear.
   * **Paint peel-ability of different fluids**:   * **Paint peel-ability of different fluids**:
     * DOT 3,4 & 5.1 can peel the paint on frame and other painted parts. \\ DOT 5 is silicon based and will not peel the paint. \\ You can spill DOT 5 brake fluid virtually anywhere and harm nothing. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=867917&​page=2))     * DOT 3,4 & 5.1 can peel the paint on frame and other painted parts. \\ DOT 5 is silicon based and will not peel the paint. \\ You can spill DOT 5 brake fluid virtually anywhere and harm nothing. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=867917&​page=2))
   * **Caution**:​   * **Caution**:​
     * Do not mix DOT 5 with (DOT 3,4 or 5.1)     * Do not mix DOT 5 with (DOT 3,4 or 5.1)
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 +|  Note the gooey mess from mixing Dot 5 and Dot 3 fluids. ((photos by FearlessFrisbee of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1508535)) ​ ||
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​wheels:​dot_5_-_dot_3_mix_goop_1_by_fearlessfrisbee.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​wheels:​dot_5_-_dot_3_mix_goop_2_by_fearlessfrisbee.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
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   * **DOT 3,4,and 5.1 can dry up over time**:   * **DOT 3,4,and 5.1 can dry up over time**:
     * Any type brake fluid can break down over time, solids fall out of suspension and clog up orifices.     * Any type brake fluid can break down over time, solids fall out of suspension and clog up orifices.
     * However, DOT 3, 4 and 5.1 will mix with water and they will dry up as water does over time.     * However, DOT 3, 4 and 5.1 will mix with water and they will dry up as water does over time.
-    * Make sure you change ​the brake fluid according ​to the FSM. \\ If the bike has sat for a long period of time, it's best to go ahead and plan on changing both front and rear.+    * Look for corrosion in the aluminum in addition ​to the goo. \\ It's caused by the fluid absorbing water when the bikes sit for a long time and or the fluid is not changed for a long time. \\ Too long and you may find pits in the body of the MC and / or bore pitted beyond being cleanable with a hone. ((FearlessFrisbee of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1509571))
  
 |  Affects of dried up DOT 3 brake fluid. ((photos by Daddio of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1509571)) ​ || |  Affects of dried up DOT 3 brake fluid. ((photos by Daddio of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1509571)) ​ ||
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     * Once this process is done, install the M/C, hook up your actual brake lines and continue bleeding at the caliper bleed screw.     * Once this process is done, install the M/C, hook up your actual brake lines and continue bleeding at the caliper bleed screw.
 ===== Master cylinder issues ===== ===== Master cylinder issues =====
 +  * **Note**:
 +    * Bleeding air out of a Sporty master cylinder can be a frustrating task.
 +    * Before suspecting the master cylinder, make sure you've exhausted your bleeding options before rebuilding the M/C for no reason.
 +    * While fresh seals is never a bad idea;
 +      *There has been a number of unnecessary rebuilds. \\ (when the rebuild simply allowed time or convenience for the air to be expelled).
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   * **Clean the hole(s) in the bottom of the master cylinder**:   * **Clean the hole(s) in the bottom of the master cylinder**:
     * The transfer hole(s) can get clogged from debris or solids that drop out of suspension in the fluid itself. \\ Clear them with a pin, a bristle from a wire brush, welding tip cleaner or other or the master cylinder will not transfer fluid properly.     * The transfer hole(s) can get clogged from debris or solids that drop out of suspension in the fluid itself. \\ Clear them with a pin, a bristle from a wire brush, welding tip cleaner or other or the master cylinder will not transfer fluid properly.