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techtalk:evo:trouble01 [2020/01/07 19:06] ixl2relax [Setting TSM/HFSM and ECM Password] |
techtalk:evo:trouble01 [2021/08/01 02:52] ixl2relax [ECM Password Learn Procedure] |
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| ====== ECM Password Learn Procedure ====== | ====== ECM Password Learn Procedure ====== | ||
| - | The TSM/TSSM modules share a password with the ECM on fuel injected bikes (and ICM's on early rubber mount bikes). When replacing an ECM/ICM or TSSM, you must go through a password learn procedure. If the procedure is not followed, the engine will start and run for a few seconds, and then stall. This will typically throw a P1009 diagnostic code. | + | The TSM/TSSM/HFSM modules share a password with the ECM/ICM and Speedometer (2004-later) during operation. When replacing an ECM/ICM or TSSM/HFSM or Speedometer, you must go through a password learn procedure. If the procedure is not followed, the engine will start and run for a few seconds, and then stall. This will typically produce a P1009 or P1010 diagnostic code. |
| The learn procedure MUST be followed from start to finish without any interruption. If interrupted, starting over from the beginning is the only option. | The learn procedure MUST be followed from start to finish without any interruption. If interrupted, starting over from the beginning is the only option. | ||
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| **Connect the motorcycle up to a trickle charger and pull the headlight fuse before starting these steps, which take more than 30 minutes to complete.** | **Connect the motorcycle up to a trickle charger and pull the headlight fuse before starting these steps, which take more than 30 minutes to complete.** | ||
| - | For information about removing/replacing the TSM/TSSM, click this [[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=573200|XLForum Thread]] by Cosmo on the topic. | + | For information about removing/replacing the TSM/TSSM, click this [[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=573200|XLForum Thread]] by XLForum member 'Cosmo Kramer' on the topic. |
| - | ^ Device Replaced ^ Password Learn\\ Procedure Required? | ((See 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster Electrical Diagnostic Manual Section 3.25, pg 3-72)) | | + | |
| - | | ECM | Yes || | + | | If the engine starts but stalls, check DTCs for P1009 (Incorrect Pwd) or P1010 (Missing Pwd) ((See 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster Electrical Diagnostic Manual Section 3.25, pg 3-72)) || |
| - | | TSM | No* || | + | ^ Device Being Serviced ^ Password Learn Procedure Required | |
| - | |TSSM | Yes || | + | | TSM replacing TSM | NO | |
| - | *If a TSM has been replaced with a HFSM, or a HFSM has been replaced by a TSM, password **is** necessary. | + | | TSM replacing HFSM or TSSM | YES | |
| + | | HFSM or TSSM new unit installed | YES | | ||
| + | | ECM new unit installed | YES | | ||
| + | | Speedometer new unit installed | YES | | ||
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| ^ Step # ^ Action ^ Confirmation ^ Notes | ((See 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster Electrical Diagnostic Manual Section 3.25, pg 3-73)) | | ^ Step # ^ Action ^ Confirmation ^ Notes | ((See 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster Electrical Diagnostic Manual Section 3.25, pg 3-73)) | | ||
| - | | | Ignition must be turned off for at least 15 seconds. | With ignition turned off, Check Engine Lamp and Security Lamp will be off. | Remember to pull the headlight fuse. || | + | | | Ignition must be turned off for at least 15 seconds. | With ignition turned off, Check Engine Lamp and Security Lamp will be off. | Remember to pull the headlight fuse to prevent draining the battery. This procedure takes more than 30 minutes to complete. || |
| | 1 | Install new TSM/HFSM or ECM. | | || | | 1 | Install new TSM/HFSM or ECM. | | || | ||
| - | | 2 | Set **RUN/OFF** switch to **RUN**. | | || | + | | 2 | Set **RUN/STOP** switch to **RUN**. | | || |
| | 3 | Turn **IGN** key **ON**. | Verify Check Engine Lamp and Security Lamp illuminate and then turn off. | TSM/HFSM enables starter relay.|| | | 3 | Turn **IGN** key **ON**. | Verify Check Engine Lamp and Security Lamp illuminate and then turn off. | TSM/HFSM enables starter relay.|| | ||
| | 4 | Attempt normal start **one** time. | Engine starts and stalls. Check Engine Lamp illuminates and stays on. | Password has not been learned. ECM sets DTC P1009. || | | 4 | Attempt normal start **one** time. | Engine starts and stalls. Check Engine Lamp illuminates and stays on. | Password has not been learned. ECM sets DTC P1009. || | ||
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| | 11 | Quickly (within two seconds) turn **IGN** key OFF-**ON**. | | ECM must not be allowed to shutdown. || | | 11 | Quickly (within two seconds) turn **IGN** key OFF-**ON**. | | ECM must not be allowed to shutdown. || | ||
| | 12 | Turn **IGN** key **OFF**. __Wait 15 seconds before turning IGN on__. Turn **IGN** switch **ON** and start engine to confirm successful Password Learn procedure. Clear diagnostic trouble codes. | | || | | 12 | Turn **IGN** key **OFF**. __Wait 15 seconds before turning IGN on__. Turn **IGN** switch **ON** and start engine to confirm successful Password Learn procedure. Clear diagnostic trouble codes. | | || | ||
| - | | 13 | If the learn procedure is interrupted or fails in any way, you must restart your attempt from the beginning of the procecure |||| | + | | 13 | If the learn procedure is interrupted or fails in any way, you must restart your attempt from the beginning of the procecure! |||| |
| (This section contributed by Screw Loose Dan ) | (This section contributed by Screw Loose Dan ) | ||
