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 ====== IH: Electrical System ======
-{{:common:space100x5px.jpg|}}[[techtalk:ih:elec08|See the IH section for illustrated OEM wiring schematic drawings.]]
+===== Subdocuments =====
+{{:common:space100x5px.jpg|}}[[techtalk:ih:elec01A|Stock Sportster Main Wiring Harnesses / Part Numbers]]
-{{:common:space100x5px.jpg|}}[[techtalk:ref:elec07#ironhead_-_simplified_wiring_schematics|See the REF section for some simplified wiring diagrams/schematics.]]
+{{:common:space100x5px.jpg|}}[[techtalk:ih:elec08|For illustrated OEM wiring schematic drawings - Goto this IH section.]]
+{{:common:space100x5px.jpg|}}[[techtalk:ref:elec07#ironhead_-_simplified_wiring_schematics|For some simplified wiring diagrams/schematics - GoTo this REF section.]]
 ====== Wiring ======
-For electrical devices to function, they must have a completed circuit, from supply to device and back to the supply. The ironheads use a negative ground reference and distribute the positive voltage thru the wiring harness. The following is a generalized description of power and ground distribution that may not apply exactly the same to every model, especially the earliest models.
+For electrical devices to function, they must have a completed circuit, from the supply to device and then back to the supply. The ironheads use a negative ground reference and distribute the positive voltage thru the wiring harness & switches. The following is a generalized description of the power and ground distribution. Some models may not have exactly the same wiring configuration, especially the earliest models.
 **Grounds**\\
-Ironheads did not use any wires in the wiring harness for distributing grounds to devices. Even the EVO models up thru 1990 did not have ground wires in the harness. Instead, these models used the frame itself for grounding the various devices to complete their electrical circuit. For grounding the devices on the forks, the triple tree was grounded to the frame thru the neck bearings. For the isolated handlebars, there was a ground wire attached to one of the riser mounting bolts with the other end of the wire attached to the upper or lower triple tree bracket. Later models had additional wiring in order to more directly complete the electrical circuits back to the source - the battery or the regulator.
+Ironheads did not include any wires in the wiring harness for centralizing the grounding of each devices. Even the EVO models up thru 1990 did not have ground wires in the harness. Instead, these models used the frame itself for grounding the various electrical devices, thereby completing their electrical circuit back to the source. For grounding the various devices on the forks, the triple tree was grounded to the frame thru the neck bearings. For the switches and devices on the isolated handlebars, there was a ground wire attached to one of the handlebar riser mounting bolts with the other end of the wire attached to the upper or lower triple tree bracket.
-All (or most) of the devices on such models were grounded thru their mounting brackets or nearby onto the frame. Whether the power source was the battery, the regulator or the generator, it was grounded nearby on the frame directly or at the rear engine mount.
+All (or most) of the electrical devices on such models were grounded thru their mounting brackets or wired to a bolt nearby onto the frame. Whether the power source was the battery, the regulator or the generator, it was grounded nearby on the frame directly or at the rear engine mount.
 **Power**\\
-The positive power source (battery) sends voltage thru a main circuit breaker or fuse wire to the keyswitch. Two circuits are supplied power by the keyswitch - the Ignition circuit and the Lights circuit - each with multiple devices. The devices on these two circuits are supplied with power thru the wiring harness.
+The positive power source (battery/regulator) sends voltage thru a main circuit breaker or fuse wire to the keyswitch. The keyswitch then supplied power thru separate circuit breakers to either or both the Ignition circuit and the Lights circuit, each with multiple devices. The various electrical devices on these two circuits are supplied with power thru the wiring harness.
-Some devices (like turn signal lights) get power only after it runs thru activated switches or other devices. In these cases, the devices were always grounded but activated by positive power. Other devices (like the coil & indicator lights) get power whenever the keyswitch sends power on that circuit and they are activated only when a switch or device provides a ground to it. Later, the coil was only supplied with power when the RUN/STOP switch was in RUN mode.
+Some devices (like turn signal lights) get power only after it runs thru activated switches or other devices. In these cases, the end devices were constantly grounded but then activated by positive power. For other devices (like the coil & indicator lights) they receive power whenever the keyswitch sends power on that circuit. But they are only activated when a switch or device provides a ground path for that device. Later, the coil and ignition module were only supplied with power when the RUN/STOP switch was in RUN mode.
-The turn signals operated from one flasher, since the positive voltage output of the flasher was routed thru each handlebar TS switch before going to the appropriate lights (front, rear & indicator). These lights were grounded to the frame by their housing brackets.
+The turn signals operated from one flasher. The positive voltage output of the flasher was routed thru each handlebar TS switch before going to the appropriate lights (front, rear & indicator). These TS lights were grounded to the frame by their housing brackets.
-Because there were no ground wires in the harness, it is VERY IMPORTANT that all mounting brackets for electrical devices make a good connection to the frame so that the device can be grounded and the electrical circuit can be completed back to the battery negative terminal.
+Because there were no ground wires in the harness, it is VERY IMPORTANT that all mounting brackets for electrical devices make a good connection to the frame so that the device can be grounded and the electrical circuit can be completed back to the battery negative terminal. Paint, corrosion or the mount being loose could cause intermittent or no operation.
-On the wiring diagram for such models, there is only one wire shown going to the devices. This is the positive power wire. Sometimes the diagram showed the housing as grounded, but sometimes it did not show the device as grounded even though it was being grounded thru the housing. Where multi-functions occured within the same housing, such as the taillight/brake light, there are two wires shown running to that device, but both wires are bringing positive power, for each individual function, with the ground for both functions going thru the device mounting bracket.
+On the wiring diagram for such models, there is only one wire shown going to a device. This is typically the positive power wire. Sometimes the diagram showed the housing as grounded, but other times it did not show the device as grounded even though it was being grounded thru the housing. Where multi-functions occured within the same housing, such as the taillight/brake light, there are two wires shown running to that device, but both wires are bringing positive power for each individual function, with the ground for both functions going thru the device mounting bracket to the frame.
-** Wiring Terminals **\\
+** Main Wiring Terminals ** \\
-| 1967-1969 terminal has 12 connection points and is mounted between the forks on the tree. | {{:techtalk:ih:elec:wiring_terminal-_1967-1969_xlh_by_69xlh900.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by 69xlh900 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1984966)) |
-| abc | {{:techtalk:ih:elec:wiring_terminal_plate_-_1970-1974_xlh_xlch_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]] ))\\ {{:techtalk:ih:elec:1973-ih-xlh-wiringterminals.jpg?400 |}}((pic from Kingrabbit of the XLForum http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2079745))  |
+  * 1959-1964 XLH models have a 10 connection point terminal plate mounted between the forks on the tree.
+  * 1965-1966 XLH models have an 11 connection point terminal plate mounted between the forks. \\ The additional connection point was added to install a rectifier for the headlight.
+  * 1967-1969 XLH models have a 12 connection point terminal plate mounted between the forks on the tree.
+  * 1970-1974 XLH and XLCH models have a 5 connection point terminal plate mounted between the forks on the tree. \\ The bracket holds nylon blocks into which screws are used as insulated terminal points for interconnection of wires.
-====== Circuit Breakers ======
+Click on any pic below to enlarge: \\
-The circuit breakers have copper and silver colored terminals. The copper is the input side. ((Ironmick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1378363&page=3)) The only exception is that the wire from the regulator attaches to the output side, then current passes thru the circuit breaker in reverse direction to charge the battery. Or you can run the output wire from the reg directly to batt+. \\
-====== Diode ======
+|  1959-1964 XLH terminal plate. ((photos courtesy of Ebay seller, moinecyclesales, [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?item=195458086872&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m3561.l2562&_ssn=moinecyclesales|Link to Items for Sale page]] ))  ||  1967-1969 XLH terminal plate. ((photo by 69xlh900 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/185276-1969-xlh-900-teardown-and-rebuild?t=1984966))  |
+|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1959-1964_xlh_terminal_plate_72303-59_pic1_by_moinecyclesales.jpg?direct&300|}} |{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1959-1964_xlh_terminal_plate_72303-59_pic2_by_moinecyclesales.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:wiring_terminal-_1967-1969_xlh_by_69xlh900.jpg?direct&300|}}  |
-A diode is a one way electronic check valve that only allows current to flow in one direction. ((Yellowstone Kelly of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1378363&page=2)) On Sportsters, the diode is installed in the "Gen" light circuit to theoretically tell you if the generator/regulator is working correctly. If all is working the way it should be, with the bike running and everything working correctly, the generator/regulator will be producing a higher voltage than the battery (i.e. it's charging the battery). The voltages at each end of the diode will be such that the diode allows no electricity to flow through the circuit, and the "Gen" light stays off. \\
-If your generator/regulator takes a big dump and stops producing the correct voltage, the battery voltage will be higher than the voltage being produced by the generator/regulator. The voltages at each end of the diode will then be "reversed" from normal, and that will cause the diode to allow current flow. The "Gen" light will light up, telling you that something is wrong. That's why the "Gen" light lights up when you first turn the key on, as the battery voltage is higher than the voltage being produced by the generator/regulator, since they aren't producing any voltage with the engine not running. \\
+|  1970-1974 XLH / XLCH terminal plate. ((left pic from Kingrabbit of the XLForum https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/202559-live-headlight-bucket-and-deleted-horn?t=2079745)) ((right pic courtesy of Ebay seller, animalhouse2010, [[https://www.ebay.com/str/animalhouse2010?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay store:]]))  ||
+|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1973-ih-xlh-wiringterminals.jpg?300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:wiring_terminal_plate_-_1970-1974_xlh_xlch_by_animalhouse2010.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+====== Circuit Breakers ======
+The circuit breakers have copper (incoming power) and silver (outgoing power) colored terminals. The copper terminal of the Main Circuit Breaker is the input side for the battery. ((Ironmick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/130580-the-dreadful-electrical/page3?t=1378363&page=3)) The keyswitch is attached to the output side, the silver terminal. Also, the wire from the regulator attaches on the (silver) output terminal, then passes current thru the circuit breaker in reverse direction to charge the battery. CAUTION: You should NOT run the output wire from the regulator on the copper terminal of the circuit breaker, nor directly to the battery positive terminal, even if the original wiring was connected that way. Connecting in that way would allow a failing regulator to short the battery to ground, pulling hundreds of amps of current from the battery and potentially causing a fire.\\
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