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techtalk:ih:engmech02 [2020/08/25 16:37]
hippysmack [Camshaft Shims]
techtalk:ih:engmech02 [2021/08/07 08:09]
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 |CAM 3 → ((photo by supr2nr of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions))|CAM 4 → ((photo by supr2nr of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions))|All done. ✔((photo by supr2nr of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions))| |CAM 3 → ((photo by supr2nr of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions))|CAM 4 → ((photo by supr2nr of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions))|All done. ✔((photo by supr2nr of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions))|
 |{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​installing_76_cams_5_by_supr2nr.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​installing_76_cams_6_by_supr2nr.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​installing_76_cams_7_by_supr2nr.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| |{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​installing_76_cams_5_by_supr2nr.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​installing_76_cams_6_by_supr2nr.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​installing_76_cams_7_by_supr2nr.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
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-====== Installing the Pinion Gear ====== 
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-  * From the 79 to 85 FM, there is a timing mark on the pinion shaft and a timing mark on the pinion gear. These must line up. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions&​page=3)) ​ 
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-|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​pinionshafttimemark_by_ironmick.jpg?​direct&​200|}}| 
-|Pinion Shaft Timing Mark ((photo by IronMick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions&​page=3))| 
  
 ====== Camshaft Shims ====== ====== Camshaft Shims ======
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 ===== Sub-Documents ===== ===== Sub-Documents =====
 * . . . [[techtalk:​ih:​engmech02a|Gearcase Cover Removal]] * . . . [[techtalk:​ih:​engmech02a|Gearcase Cover Removal]]
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     - Old style gearcase covers (XLH 25227-81) and (XLS 25229-81) have a rubber plug on the lower left.     - Old style gearcase covers (XLH 25227-81) and (XLS 25229-81) have a rubber plug on the lower left.
     - New style gearcase covers (XLH 25208-81) and (XLS 25209-81) replaced the rubber plug with a hex capscrew and also contains the extra mounting hole (top left).     - New style gearcase covers (XLH 25208-81) and (XLS 25209-81) replaced the rubber plug with a hex capscrew and also contains the extra mounting hole (top left).
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 ====== Pinion Gear ====== ====== Pinion Gear ======
  
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 **Compatibility** **Compatibility**
 +1957-1985 pinion gears have 18 teeth and splines to match the splined pinion shaft. \\
 +1957-1976 pinion gears have 4 splines. \\
 +1977-1985 pinion gears have 6 splines. \\
  
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 |24061-74 (black)|:::​| |24061-74 (black)|:::​|
  
 +**The 57-76 pinion gear needs to be a tight fit**. However, it's a common problem to find them loose on a used engine. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1072235)) \\
 +The trick in selecting the right fit part during assembly. The gear is supposed to be "size for size" with the major diameter of the shaft splines. \\
 +The press actually is between the sides of 1 male shaft spline and it's matching female in gear. \\
 +There is 1 bigger spline so the gear can index for cam timing. The press spline is the one opposite the bigger one. \\
 +The bad news is the shaft wears before the gear. The XL gear is beefier where the pump drive gear hits the back of the pinion gear. \\
 +It's beefier because HD also had these failures. \\
 +However, leaving the gear loose makes you 1 of 80% of Ironhead riders. Worse side effect is non stop "​tappet noise"​. It can be heard even just pushing the motor over with kicker. \\
 +It's usually not "​destructive"​ problem to leave it as is and you can't use an adhesive to "​glue"​ the pinion gear on. \\
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 +The 79-85 pinion gear slides up on a timing mark on the pinion shaft and corresponding to a timing mark on the pinion gear. These must line up. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions&​page=3)) ​
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 +Click on any pic below to enlarge: \\
 +|  1957-1976 Pinion Gear. ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, Evil Genius M/C Parts. [[https://​www.ebay.com/​str/​evilgeniusmcparts?​_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] ))  ||
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​pinion_gear_pic2_24011-37_by_evilgeniushd1936.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​pinion_gear_pic1_24011-37_by_evilgeniushd1936.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
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 +|1977-1985 Pinion Shaft Timing Mark ((photo by IronMick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=239641&​highlight=cam+positions&​page=3))|
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​pinionshafttimemark_by_ironmick.jpg?​direct&​200|}}|
  
 +|  1977-1985 Pinion Gear (24057-74) ((photos courtesy of Ebay seller, Robison Motorcycles [[https://​www.ebay.com/​str/​robisonmotorcycles?​_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] ))  ||  1977-1985 Pinion Gear (24056-74) App. Dims ((photos courtesy of Ebay seller, Robison Motorcycles [[https://​www.ebay.com/​str/​robisonmotorcycles?​_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] ))  |
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​pinion_gear_24057-74_pic2_by_robisonmotorcycles.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​pinion_gear_24057-74_pic1_by_robisonmotorcycles.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engmech:​pinion_gear_24056-74_app_dims_by_robison_motorcycles.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
 ====== Tappets (Lifters) ====== ====== Tappets (Lifters) ======