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====== IH: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-03D ====== | ====== IH: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-03D ====== | ||
- | ====== 77-85 Oil Pump Parts Lists and Upgrades | + | ====== 77-85 Oil Pump Parts Lists and Upgrades ====== |
- | Originated from an article by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM ((http:// | + | Originated from an article by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM ((https://www.xlforum.net/ |
See the [[techtalk: | See the [[techtalk: | ||
Also on this page below; \\ | Also on this page below; \\ | ||
- | [[techtalk: | ||
[[techtalk: | [[techtalk: | ||
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====== Total Oil Pump Assemblies ====== | ====== Total Oil Pump Assemblies ====== | ||
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So, they fit together as a unit. \\ | So, they fit together as a unit. \\ | ||
Either plate matched with it's correct seal will work on 77-85 pumps. \\ | Either plate matched with it's correct seal will work on 77-85 pumps. \\ | ||
- | ====== Individual Parts and Pics ====== | ||
- | ====== Oil Pump Body and Cover ====== | ||
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- | ==== For 77-81 pump assembly ==== | ||
- | **E77**: \\ | ||
- | Special " | ||
- | (26484-75) Oil pump body \\ | ||
- | (26486-75) Pump cover \\ | ||
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- | **Late 77-81**: \\ | ||
- | (26484-75) Oil pump body \\ | ||
- | (26486-75) Pump cover \\ | ||
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- | ==== For 82-E83 pump assembly ==== | ||
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- | (26484-83) Oil pump body \\ | ||
- | (26486-83) Pump cover \\ | ||
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- | ==== For L83-85 pump assembly ==== | ||
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- | (26484-75A) Oil pump body \\ | ||
- | (26486-75A) Pump cover \\ | ||
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- | ====== Gearshaft ====== | ||
- | See also [[techtalk: | ||
- | The gear shaft (26488-75) was used from 77-90. \\ | ||
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- | The dims and teeth pitch are all the same on the gear. \\ | ||
- | However, there are variations of the exact length of the shaft. \\ | ||
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- | | All have 20 teeth gears ((photo by Hippysmack)) | ||
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- | | This shows where the wear occurs. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | ||
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- | ====== Gearshaft Pins ====== | ||
- | (26430-76) Gear shaft pin. \\ | ||
- | These are solid pins (not to be confused with a roll pin with a hollow core) ((brucstoudt of the XLFORUM http:// | ||
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- | ====== Inner Plate ====== | ||
- | See also; \\ | ||
- | [[techtalk: | ||
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- | The inner plate (26463-77) is the top plate (with the pump installed). \\ | ||
- | The return gerotors sit on this plate. \\ | ||
- | It was used in all 77-90 oil pumps. \\ | ||
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- | | Inner plate (26463-77). Hole for the gearshaft is off center. Machined step is to locate the spring washer between the two plates. ((photos by Hippysmack)) | ||
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- | |Inner separator plate installed position. \\ (pump upside down) ((photo by Hippysmack))| | ||
- | ====== Outer Plate ====== | ||
- | See also; \\ | ||
- | [[techtalk: | ||
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- | The outer plate is the bottom plate (with the pump installed). | ||
- | The feed gerotors sit under this plate. \\ | ||
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- | * (26493-75) was used in 77-82 oil pumps. | ||
- | * (26493-75A) was an upgrade for the E83 pump assembly. \\ It also was used in the re-designed L83-85 assemblies as well as all 86-90 oil pumps. | ||
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- | Either will fit 77-90 oil pumps with their respective seals. \\ | ||
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- | | Outer plate comparison ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM, annotated by Hippysmack http:// | ||
- | ===== (26493-75) ===== | ||
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- | 77-82 outer plate I.D. 0.518" \\ | ||
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- | | 77-82 oil pump outer separator plate top view ((photo by Hippysmack)) | ||
- | ===== (26493-75A) ===== | ||
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- | 83-90 outer plate I.D. 0.683" \\ | ||
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- | ===== Outer Plate Seal ===== | ||
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- | ====== Gerotors ====== | ||
- | See also; \\ | ||
- | [[techtalk: | ||
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- | * There were 2 different sets of gerotors used in Sportster oil pumps from 77-85. | ||
- | * 77-E83; Return set (26491-75), Feed set (26492-75). \\ Discontinued for production models by November of 1982. ((HD Service Bulletin #M860 dated November 12, 1982 pg 2)) \\ Sold for 77-E83 oil pumps through 1984. | ||
- | * L83-85; Return set (26491-83), Feed set (26492-83). | ||
- | * The -78B parts book lists the original gerotors. \\ (even though that catalog was written in 1989 after the design change). | ||
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- | The outside gear in each 77-E83 gerotor set was chamfered. \\ | ||
- | The outside gear in each L83-85 gerotor set was straight cut. \\ | ||
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- | | 77-E83 gerotor outside edge ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM | ||
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- | ===== 77-E83 - return (26491-75), feed (26492-75) ===== | ||
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- | ==== Feed Gerotors ==== | ||
- | **77-E83 Chamfered Feed Gerotors** \\ | ||
- | (can also be used on L83-85 oil pumps). ((HD Service Bulletin #M860 dated November 12, 1982 pg 2)) \\ | ||
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- | ==== Return (scavenge) Gerotors ==== | ||
- | **77-E83 Chamfered Return Gerotors** \\ | ||
- | (can also be used on L83-85 oil pumps). ((HD Service Bulletin #M860 dated November 12, 1982 pg 2)) \\ | ||
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- | ===== Late 1983 oil pump assembly design modification ===== | ||
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- | * The late 83 oil pump assembly (26197-83) gerotor gears are fabricated without the chamfered top and bottom on the outer diameters as was in the 77-E1983 gerotors. \\ This new assembly will retrofit to 77-E83 engines ((HD Service Bulletin #M860 dated November 12, 1982 pg 2)) ((HD Service Bulletin #M-892 dated June 22, 1984)) \\ The new gerotors will retrofit to the 82 model pump body and cover. ((79-85 HD XL models Parts Catalog -85A pg 21)) | ||
- | * Late 1983 pump bodies and covers were also under-cut or relieved to accommodate for clearances with the new gerotors. | ||
- | * The 77-E83 chamfered gerotors have a (.020" x 45° chamfer or .020") radius and the same radius is designed into their respective oil pump body / cover. | ||
- | * The Late 83 pump body and cover has a (.010" max. radius) undercut for clearance designed into them. | ||
- | * These modifications limit interchangeability and affect the installation of repair parts: | ||
- | * Either early style or late style gerotor gears may be used with late style (under-cut) oil pump bodies and covers. | ||
- | * Only early style chamfered gerotor gears may be used with early style oil pump bodies and covers \\ (Use of late style gerotor gears in early style oil pump bodies and covers could cause the oil pump to bind up and possible pump failure). | ||
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- | ===== L83-85 - return (26491-83), feed (26492-83) ===== | ||
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- | ====== Check Valve ====== | ||
- | See also; \\ | ||
- | [[techtalk: | ||
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- | ===== (26435-76A) L77-85 ===== | ||
- | Made by Circle Seal. \\ | ||
- | Part # P106-376.\\ | ||
- | Patent #3626977. \\ | ||
- | It has an arrow pointing up with FC to the bottom left of the arrow. \\ | ||
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- | * The oil pump check valve had 2 different part numbers. | ||
- | * The original was (26435-76) in 1977. | ||
- | * The part number was upgrade (26435-76A) | ||
- | * Speculation could say..., | ||
- | * The original check was for the special " | ||
- | * And the upgraded check was for installation in a newer, non publicized, pump casting not cataloged. | ||
- | * Either way, the upgraded check valve was used through 1985 on IHs. | ||
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- | | 26435-76A check valve ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM http:// | ||
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- | | The check valve sits inside the bore in the pump body as shown. Installed position (R)((photo by Hippysmack)) | ||
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- | ==== In search of a comparable check valve ==== | ||
- | **The closest on the Circle Seal website** is a [[http:// | ||
- | Click on the 2900 series in the catalog section to the left on the their site. | ||
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- | In the Products-Engineering-Terminology PDF; \\ | ||
- | < | ||
- | Flow capability indication commonly accepted by the valve industry. | ||
- | The literal definition is that a component with a Cv of one (1); \\ | ||
- | Can flow one (1) gallon of water with a ΔP of one (1) PSI. \\ | ||
- | The calculated results from Cv equations must be considered reasonable approximations only.</ | ||
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- | **Link to the Circle Valve site with comparable dims and specs**: \\ | ||
- | [[https:// | ||
- | This one has a back-up O-ring on the valve. \\ | ||
- | That link came from this XLF thread: \\ | ||
- | [[http:// | ||
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- | ====== Oil Pressure Switch ====== | ||
- | See also; \\ | ||
- | [[techtalk: | ||
- | [[techtalk: | ||
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- | (26554-77) Oil pressure switch (L-77 to 90). \\ | ||
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- | On 77-85 models, it was mounted at the oil pump and later mounted to the filter pad on 86-90 models. \\ | ||
- | The oil pressure switch was listed in the -77A parts supplement catalog. \\ | ||
- | However, it was listed as a L77 addition in the -78 parts supplement. \\ | ||
- | The circumstance of this switch being a late addition is unclear. \\ | ||
- | However, there was a wiring harness upgrade in 78 and an oil pressure gauge available for 77-78 models. \\ | ||
- | Double nuts (7638) for the oil pressure switch were also a late addition part #. \\ | ||
- | (retainer for the wire to the oil light) \\ | ||
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- | | Oil pressure switch (26554-77) | ||
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====== Parts List and Upgrades per Oil Pump Assembly ====== | ====== Parts List and Upgrades per Oil Pump Assembly ====== | ||
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* New pump assembly was equipped on 82 models. | * New pump assembly was equipped on 82 models. | ||
* 77-81 oil pump (26204-75), as upgraded, still sold for 81 and prior models (due to the fittings being different in the new assembly). | * 77-81 oil pump (26204-75), as upgraded, still sold for 81 and prior models (due to the fittings being different in the new assembly). | ||
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==== E83 Upgrades / Changes ==== | ==== E83 Upgrades / Changes ==== | ||
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* Date references: | * Date references: | ||
* 99451-84 parts catalog: (copyright August-83). | * 99451-84 parts catalog: (copyright August-83). | ||
- | * [[parts:partsplus-01b|TSB M-860]] dated 11-12-1982 (E83 season). | + | * [[techtalk:miscres: |
* The MoCo announces the gerotor gears were then being fabricated without the chamfered top and bottom on the outer diameters. | * The MoCo announces the gerotor gears were then being fabricated without the chamfered top and bottom on the outer diameters. | ||
- | * [[parts:partsplus-01b|TSB M-892]] dated 6-22-1984. | + | * [[techtalk:miscres: |
* The MoCo announces the retirement of the 77-E83 oil pump assembly. \\ | * The MoCo announces the retirement of the 77-E83 oil pump assembly. \\ | ||
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* L83 pump (26197-83) and it's new parts now sold as an assembly only for 82 and up replacement. | * L83 pump (26197-83) and it's new parts now sold as an assembly only for 82 and up replacement. | ||
* All parts were still being sold for the 82-E83 and 77-81 pumps. | * All parts were still being sold for the 82-E83 and 77-81 pumps. | ||
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==== 85 Upgrades / Changes ==== | ==== 85 Upgrades / Changes ==== | ||
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==== 77 Version ==== | ==== 77 Version ==== | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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==== 78-79 Version ==== | ==== 78-79 Version ==== | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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==== 80-81 Version ==== | ==== 80-81 Version ==== | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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The assembly has a 45° feed fitting and a 45° return fitting. \\ | The assembly has a 45° feed fitting and a 45° return fitting. \\ | ||
This coincides with the oil tank upgrade in 82. | This coincides with the oil tank upgrade in 82. | ||
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==== 82 Version ==== | ==== 82 Version ==== | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(<wrap hi> | |(<wrap hi> | ||
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===== (26204-82A) E83 ===== | ===== (26204-82A) E83 ===== | ||
Production assembly for E83 models. \\ | Production assembly for E83 models. \\ | ||
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The assembly has a 45° feed fitting and a 45° return fitting. \\ | The assembly has a 45° feed fitting and a 45° return fitting. \\ | ||
==== E83 Version ==== | ==== E83 Version ==== | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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|(26554-77)|Oil pressure switch| | |(26554-77)|Oil pressure switch| | ||
|(63540-62)|45° feed and return fittings (3/8" hose nipple)| | |(63540-62)|45° feed and return fittings (3/8" hose nipple)| | ||
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====== L83-85 Oil Pump Assembly ====== | ====== L83-85 Oil Pump Assembly ====== | ||
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The assembly has a 90° feed fitting and a 90° return fitting. \\ | The assembly has a 90° feed fitting and a 90° return fitting. \\ | ||
This coincides with the oil tank upgrade in 84 (or possibly L83). \\ | This coincides with the oil tank upgrade in 84 (or possibly L83). \\ | ||
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==== L83-85 Version ==== | ==== L83-85 Version ==== | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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|(26497-75)|Gear shaft retaining ring| | |(26497-75)|Gear shaft retaining ring| | ||
|(26554-77)|Oil pressure switch| | |(26554-77)|Oil pressure switch| | ||
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====== Parts Lists per Catalogs ====== | ====== Parts Lists per Catalogs ====== | ||
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===== 1977 Oil Pump ===== | ===== 1977 Oil Pump ===== | ||
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**Parts list from the -77A and -78 parts catalog supplements**: | **Parts list from the -77A and -78 parts catalog supplements**: | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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===== 1978 Oil Pump ===== | ===== 1978 Oil Pump ===== | ||
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**Parts list from the -78 parts catalog supplement**: | **Parts list from the -78 parts catalog supplement**: | ||
Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | ||
(although HD has changed parts without changing the part numbers) \\ | (although HD has changed parts without changing the part numbers) \\ | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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===== 1979 Oil Pump ===== | ===== 1979 Oil Pump ===== | ||
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**Parts list from the -79 parts catalog**: ((1979 HD Sportster XLH/ | **Parts list from the -79 parts catalog**: ((1979 HD Sportster XLH/ | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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===== 1980 Oil Pump ===== | ===== 1980 Oil Pump ===== | ||
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**Parts list from the -80 parts catalog**: ((1979 & 1980 HD Sportster XLH/ | **Parts list from the -80 parts catalog**: ((1979 & 1980 HD Sportster XLH/ | ||
Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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===== 1981 Oil Pump ===== | ===== 1981 Oil Pump ===== | ||
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* Notes: | * Notes: | ||
* There are no changes noted in the -81 parts catalog. | * There are no changes noted in the -81 parts catalog. | ||
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**Parts list from the -81 parts catalog**: ((1979 to 1981 HD Sportster XLH/ | **Parts list from the -81 parts catalog**: ((1979 to 1981 HD Sportster XLH/ | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(1794)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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===== 1982 Oil Pump ===== | ===== 1982 Oil Pump ===== | ||
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**Parts list from the -82 parts catalog**: ((1979 to 1982 HD XL Models Parts Catalog pg 19 (99451-82) )) \\ | **Parts list from the -82 parts catalog**: ((1979 to 1982 HD XL Models Parts Catalog pg 19 (99451-82) )) \\ | ||
Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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|(63540-62)|45° Feed fitting (3/8" hose nipple)| | |(63540-62)|45° Feed fitting (3/8" hose nipple)| | ||
|:::|45° Return fitting| | |:::|45° Return fitting| | ||
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===== 1983 Oil Pump ===== | ===== 1983 Oil Pump ===== | ||
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Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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|(63540-62)|45° Feed fitting (3/8" hose nipple)| | |(63540-62)|45° Feed fitting (3/8" hose nipple)| | ||
|:::|45° Return fitting| | |:::|45° Return fitting| | ||
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===== 1984 Oil Pump ===== | ===== 1984 Oil Pump ===== | ||
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**Parts list from the -84 parts catalog**: ((1979 to 1984 HD XL Models Parts Catalog pg 21 (99451-84) )) \\ | **Parts list from the -84 parts catalog**: ((1979 to 1984 HD XL Models Parts Catalog pg 21 (99451-84) )) \\ | ||
Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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|(63540-62)|45° Feed fitting (3/8" hose nipple)| | |(63540-62)|45° Feed fitting (3/8" hose nipple)| | ||
|:::|45° Return fitting|::: | |:::|45° Return fitting|::: | ||
- | ===== 1985 Oil Pump ===== | ||
+ | ===== 1985 Oil Pump ===== | ||
**Parts list from the -85 parts catalog**: ((1979 to 1985 HD XL Models Parts Catalog pg 21 (99451-85) )) \\ | **Parts list from the -85 parts catalog**: ((1979 to 1985 HD XL Models Parts Catalog pg 21 (99451-85) )) \\ | ||
Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | Part # changes in the table below are highlighted. \\ | ||
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|Part # | |Part # | ||
|(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | |(3478)|Oil pump mounting bolt (1/ | ||
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|(63540-62)|45° Feed fitting (3/8" hose nipple)| | |(63540-62)|45° Feed fitting (3/8" hose nipple)| | ||
|:::|45° Return fitting|::: | |:::|45° Return fitting|::: | ||
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