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| ===== Sub Documents ===== | ===== Sub Documents ===== | ||
| - | * Lectron Carburetor Kit (27154-78), 74-E78, | + | * Lectron Carburetor Kit (27154-78), 1974-E1978 FX, FXS |
| * [[techtalk:ref:carb01w|Basic Keihin BD (Screaming Eagle) Information]] | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01w|Basic Keihin BD (Screaming Eagle) Information]] | ||
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| * [[techtalk:ref:carb01c|Mikuni HSR Function and Tuning]] | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01c|Mikuni HSR Function and Tuning]] | ||
| * [[techtalk:ref:carb01d|Choke Relocation on a Mikuni HSR]] | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01d|Choke Relocation on a Mikuni HSR]] | ||
| + | * [[techtalk:ref:carb01e|Mikuni HSR42 - Mounting]] | ||
| **VM Series**: \\ | **VM Series**: \\ | ||
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| Other than exact replacement OEM carburetors, all Mikuni aftermarket carburetors and tuning components are sold "As Is" for off road / racing use only. ((http://www.mikunipower.com/VM01.htm)) \\ | Other than exact replacement OEM carburetors, all Mikuni aftermarket carburetors and tuning components are sold "As Is" for off road / racing use only. ((http://www.mikunipower.com/VM01.htm)) \\ | ||
| They are not intended or approved for use on vehicles operated on public roads or in locations where applicable engine tampering and anti-pollution laws apply. \\ | They are not intended or approved for use on vehicles operated on public roads or in locations where applicable engine tampering and anti-pollution laws apply. \\ | ||
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| + | **Counterfeit Mikuni Alert**!!: | ||
| There are plenty of Mikuni and Keihin carburetors in the market that are not authentic. ((http://www.sudco.com/genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html)) \\ | There are plenty of Mikuni and Keihin carburetors in the market that are not authentic. ((http://www.sudco.com/genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html)) \\ | ||
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| If you're not sure if it's a genuine carburetor, the Sudco International site has a web page with pics of genuine and fake carbs. \\ | If you're not sure if it's a genuine carburetor, the Sudco International site has a web page with pics of genuine and fake carbs. \\ | ||
| Follow [[http://www.sudco.com/genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html|this link]] or you can call them directly to verify a seller. ((Sudco International Corp. 2410 S. Sequoia Drive Compton, CA 90220 Tel.(310) 637-8330 • Fax (310) 637-8331)) \\ | Follow [[http://www.sudco.com/genuine_vs_fake_carburetors.html|this link]] or you can call them directly to verify a seller. ((Sudco International Corp. 2410 S. Sequoia Drive Compton, CA 90220 Tel.(310) 637-8330 • Fax (310) 637-8331)) \\ | ||
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| + | Click on the pic to enlarge. \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:counterfeit_mikuni_pic_by_aswracing.jpg?direct&800|}} ((photo by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/199942-counterfeit-mikuni-carbs#post5829469)) \\ | ||
| **Mikuni vs CV-40**: \\ | **Mikuni vs CV-40**: \\ | ||
| - | |Mikuni HSR42 on a relatively low powered bike: \\ Not a whole lot. Some, but not a lot.((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))|Mikuni HSR42 \\ Now let's bump the power up a little bit to see what Mikuni brings to \\ the party: Still not much. Course, this isn't a whole lot stronger bike. ((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))| | + | |Mikuni HSR42 on a relatively low powered bike: \\ Not a whole lot. Some, but not a lot.((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/160818-1250-build-bottom-to-top/page27?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))|Mikuni HSR42 \\ Now let's bump the power up a little bit to see what Mikuni brings to \\ the party: Still not much. Course, this isn't a whole lot stronger bike. ((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/160818-1250-build-bottom-to-top/page27?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))| |
| |{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_1_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_2_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_1_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_2_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}| | ||
| - | |Mikuni HSR42 \\ OK, now let's put it on a bit stronger bike: \\ Holy cow, made a pretty big difference at this power level. ((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))|Mikuni HSR45 \\ Now let's step it up some more: Shazam. \\ It's worth nearly 11hp on a 111hp bike! ((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))| | + | |Mikuni HSR42 \\ OK, now let's put it on a bit stronger bike: \\ Holy cow, made a pretty big difference at this power level. ((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/160818-1250-build-bottom-to-top/page27?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))|Mikuni HSR45 \\ Now let's step it up some more: Shazam. \\ It's worth nearly 11hp on a 111hp bike! ((chart by aswracing of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/160818-1250-build-bottom-to-top/page27?t=1725973&highlight=oil+pump&page=27))| |
| |{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_3_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_4_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_3_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:carb:mikuni_vs_cv40_4_by_aswracing.gif?direct&400|}}| | ||
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| ===== S&S Super B Series ===== | ===== S&S Super B Series ===== | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_b_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1786621&page=4)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_b_by_shgrier.jpg?direct&300|}}((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074303)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_b_by_robicycle.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166320-need-pics-of-carbs/page4?t=1786621&page=4)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_b_by_shgrier.jpg?direct&300|}}((photo by Robicycle of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197633-the-b-s-knees?t=2074303)) \\ |
| **Throttle shaft leak repair**. \\ | **Throttle shaft leak repair**. \\ | ||
| - | Counter-bore each side a few thousandths less than the O-ring thickness so it sits a little proud. ((Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074290)) \\ | + | Counter-bore each side a few thousandths less than the O-ring thickness so it sits a little proud. ((Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197624-s-s-super-b-installation-setup-did-i-do-this-right?t=2074290)) \\ |
| These are 1/4" x 3/8" O-rings from a HF&T kit. \\ Then use a couple 1/4" ID SS washers with a good synthetic grease like Super-Lube. \\ | These are 1/4" x 3/8" O-rings from a HF&T kit. \\ Then use a couple 1/4" ID SS washers with a good synthetic grease like Super-Lube. \\ | ||
| The return spring is on one side and you position the throttle lever on the other side. \\ | The return spring is on one side and you position the throttle lever on the other side. \\ | ||
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| This was done on a milling machine with a mold ejection pin that fit perfectly. \\ | This was done on a milling machine with a mold ejection pin that fit perfectly. \\ | ||
| To keep center, the pin was put in the spindle collet with an indicator as a confirmation of position after having moved the Z axis. \\ | To keep center, the pin was put in the spindle collet with an indicator as a confirmation of position after having moved the Z axis. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_1_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074290)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_2_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074290)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_3_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074290)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_1_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197624-s-s-super-b-installation-setup-did-i-do-this-right?t=2074290)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_2_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197624-s-s-super-b-installation-setup-did-i-do-this-right?t=2074290)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:throttle_shaft_mod_on_sands_3_by_tim_the_grim.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Tim The Grim of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197624-s-s-super-b-installation-setup-did-i-do-this-right?t=2074290)) \\ |
| ===== S&S Super E Series ===== | ===== S&S Super E Series ===== | ||
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| **Removing the accelerator pump**. \\ | **Removing the accelerator pump**. \\ | ||
| The spring inside holds the diaphragm up until the rod pushes it down like a bellows. \\ | The spring inside holds the diaphragm up until the rod pushes it down like a bellows. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_e_carb_by_samppa.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by samppa of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=297424)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_accelerator_pump_by_horse.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Horse of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1162895)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_super_e_carb_by_samppa.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by samppa of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/57212-s-s-super-e-question?threadid=297424)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:sands_accelerator_pump_by_horse.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Horse of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/119637-super-e-shorty-accelerator-pump-not-responding-to-throttle?t=1162895)) \\ |
| ==== Kmotor Super E (copy?) ==== | ==== Kmotor Super E (copy?) ==== | ||
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| However, it is something to take into account if your intention is indeed to buy an S&S model. \\ | However, it is something to take into account if your intention is indeed to buy an S&S model. \\ | ||
| Here is the carburetor: | Here is the carburetor: | ||
| - | | **Kmotor Super E** next to a Keihin butterfly ((photo by mickey t of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2073560&highlight=keihin)) | No S&S markings ((photo by mickey t of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2073560&highlight=keihin)) | | + | | **Kmotor Super E** next to a Keihin butterfly ((photo by mickey t of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/196994-this-is-the-no-name-carb-i-purchased-n-hoping-it-will-work-dor-this-season?t=2073560&highlight=keihin)) | No S&S markings ((photo by mickey t of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/196994-this-is-the-no-name-carb-i-purchased-n-hoping-it-will-work-dor-this-season?t=2073560&highlight=keihin)) | |
| |{{:techtalk:ref:carb:fake_super_e_pic_1_by_mickey_t.jpg?direct&250|}}| {{:techtalk:ref:carb:fake_super_e_pic_2_by_mickey_t.jpg?direct&250|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:carb:fake_super_e_pic_1_by_mickey_t.jpg?direct&250|}}| {{:techtalk:ref:carb:fake_super_e_pic_2_by_mickey_t.jpg?direct&250|}}| | ||
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| ====== Rivera SU Carbs ====== | ====== Rivera SU Carbs ====== | ||
| - | + | ==== Sub Documents ==== | |
| - | * Click here for instructions for {{ :pdf:su_intimidator_i-ii_carb_instructions.pdf |Eliminator I & II carbs in PDF}}. | + | * Click here for instructions for {{ pdf-bulletin:su_intimidator_i-ii_carb_instructions.pdf |Eliminator I & II carbs in PDF}}. |
| - | * Here are some more {{ :pdf:su_carb_instructions.pdf |Instructions for SU carbs}}. | + | * Same instructions above as pics [[techtalk:ref:carb01x|Eliminator I & II carbs]] |
| + | * Here are some more {{ pdf-bulletin:su_carb_instructions.pdf |Instructions for SU carbs}}. | ||
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| {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_1_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_1_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_2_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_3_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_4_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_2_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166320-need-pics-of-carbs/page4?t=1786621&page=4)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_3_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166320-need-pics-of-carbs/page4?t=1786621&page=4)) {{:techtalk:ref:carb:dellorto_phm_38mm_pic_4_by_yellowstone_kelley.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Yellowstone Kelley of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166320-need-pics-of-carbs/page4?t=1786621&page=4)) \\ |
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| ===== Weber ===== | ===== Weber ===== | ||
| - | The Weber is a very tunable carb for different motors with a nearly infinite set of jets, emulsion tubes, chokes, etc. ((ericfreeman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1206675)) \\ | + | The Weber is a very tunable carb for different motors with a nearly infinite set of jets, emulsion tubes, chokes, etc. ((ericfreeman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?t=1206675)) \\ |
| The angled manifold that swings the carb towards the front of the bike, giving you leg room to tuck in behind the manifold / carb. \\ | The angled manifold that swings the carb towards the front of the bike, giving you leg room to tuck in behind the manifold / carb. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_4_by_chief.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3488892&postcount=7)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_4_by_chief.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?postcount=7#post2583166)) |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_dcoe_40_pic_2_by_ericfreeman.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ericfreeman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1206675)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_dcoe_40_pic_2_by_ericfreeman.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ericfreeman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?t=1206675)) |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_dcoe_40_pic_1_by_ericfreeman.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ericfreeman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1206675)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_dcoe_40_pic_1_by_ericfreeman.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ericfreeman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?t=1206675)) \\ |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3488892&postcount=7)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?postcount=7#post2583166)) |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3488892&postcount=7)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?postcount=7#post2583166)) |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_3_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3488892&postcount=7)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ref:carb:weber_carb_pic_3_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by chief of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/122524-webber-carb-on-a-900?postcount=7#post2583166)) \\ |
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