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techtalk:ref:oil06 [2019/05/24 14:54] hippysmack [Oil Pump Covers] |
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[[techtalk:ih:oil03#oil_pump|77-85 Oil Pump]] in the IH section of the Sportsterpedia. \\ | [[techtalk:ih:oil03#oil_pump|77-85 Oil Pump]] in the IH section of the Sportsterpedia. \\ | ||
[[techtalk:evo:oil03|86-Present Oil Pump]] in the Evo section of the Sportsterpedia. \\ | [[techtalk:evo:oil03|86-Present Oil Pump]] in the Evo section of the Sportsterpedia. \\ | ||
- | ===== Comparing 77-85, 98-06 and 07 and up Pumps ===== | + | |
+ | ====== Return to Feed Ratios ====== | ||
+ | 77-85 feed gerotors have the smallest volume and smallest of the gerotor pumps used on Sportsters. \\ | ||
+ | 86-06 feed gerotors have the same volume. \\ | ||
+ | 77-97 return gerotors have the same volume. \\ | ||
+ | 98-06 return gerotors have the same volume. \\ | ||
+ | 77-06 gerotors all have the same teeth profile (bodies changed OD but volume per height stayed the same). \\ | ||
+ | 06-present are the tallest and also have a different teeth profile. \\ | ||
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+ | * **77-85 return to feed ratio app 2.78:1** | ||
+ | * Return Height: .500", Feed Height: .180" | ||
+ | * **86-90 return to feed ratio app 1.89:1** | ||
+ | * Return Height: .500", Feed Height: .265" | ||
+ | * **91-97 return to feed ratio app 1.89:1** | ||
+ | * Return Height: .500", Feed Height: .265" | ||
+ | * **98-06 return to feed ratio app 2.64:1** | ||
+ | * Return Height: .700", Feed Height: .265" | ||
+ | * **07-up return to feed ratio app 4.25:1** | ||
+ | * Return Height: .850", Feed Height: .200" | ||
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+ | ====== Comparing 77-85, 98-06 and 07 and up Pumps ======= | ||
With a 98 style gasket on the 79 pump, the gasket fits nice and snug as it should be. \\ | With a 98 style gasket on the 79 pump, the gasket fits nice and snug as it should be. \\ | ||
There were 3 different fitting changes to the 77-81 pump but the body stayed the same. \\ | There were 3 different fitting changes to the 77-81 pump but the body stayed the same. \\ | ||
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- | ===== 77-85 and 86-90 Oil Pump Comparison ===== | + | ====== 77-85 and 86-90 Oil Pump Comparison ====== |
The 79-85 pump was bolted to and outlined on the aluminum sheet. \\ | The 79-85 pump was bolted to and outlined on the aluminum sheet. \\ | ||
The 86-80 pump was then bolted to the sheet clearly within the mark of the 79-85 pump. \\ | The 86-80 pump was then bolted to the sheet clearly within the mark of the 79-85 pump. \\ | ||
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- | ==== Feed Gerotors ==== | + | ===== Feed Gerotors ===== |
**77-85**: \\ | **77-85**: \\ | ||
77-85 feed gerotors are the same size with the exception of the L83 removal of the chamfer on the outside of the set. \\ | 77-85 feed gerotors are the same size with the exception of the L83 removal of the chamfer on the outside of the set. \\ | ||
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- | ==== Return (scavenge) Gerotors ==== | + | ===== Return (scavenge) Gerotors ===== |
**77-90**: \\ | **77-90**: \\ | ||
77-85 return gerotors are the same size with the exception of the L83 removal of the chamfer on the outside of the set. \\ | 77-85 return gerotors are the same size with the exception of the L83 removal of the chamfer on the outside of the set. \\ | ||
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- | ==== Oil Pump Covers ==== | + | ===== Oil Pump Covers ===== |
**86-90 cover on 77-85 pump body**: \\ | **86-90 cover on 77-85 pump body**: \\ | ||
Installing an 86 cover on the 77-85 oil pump creates problems. \\ | Installing an 86 cover on the 77-85 oil pump creates problems. \\ | ||
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- | | 77-85 covers w/ feed hole in arm. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | 86-90 covers without the feed hole in the arm. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | | + | | L83 pump body and 86-90 cover. ((photo by jlv of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5749850#post5749850)) | 77-85 covers w/ feed hole in arm. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | 86-90 covers without the feed hole in the arm. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | |
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**Feed gerotor surface depth change**: \\ | **Feed gerotor surface depth change**: \\ |