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| - | The OD of the oil & vent lines is as important as the ID. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=563241&page=2)) \\ | + | The OD of the oil & vent lines is as important as the ID. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing/page2?t=563241&page=2)) \\ |
| If you buy automotive lines that are larger OD, they will be difficult to run in the limited space and easy to kink. \\ | If you buy automotive lines that are larger OD, they will be difficult to run in the limited space and easy to kink. \\ | ||
| Feed and Return: 3/8" ID X 5/8" OD reinforced rubber was introduced in 1969. \\ | Feed and Return: 3/8" ID X 5/8" OD reinforced rubber was introduced in 1969. \\ | ||
| Vent: 1/4" ID, 1/2" OD reinforced rubber also introduced in 1969. \\ | Vent: 1/4" ID, 1/2" OD reinforced rubber also introduced in 1969. \\ | ||
| - | The tank is vented to the cam chest because it applies a slightly negative pressure to the tank. ((ryder rick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=600218&page=2)) \\ | + | The tank is vented to the cam chest because it applies a slightly negative pressure to the tank. ((ryder rick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/81492-oil-lines/page2?t=600218&page=2)) \\ |
| This promotes the evacuation of condensate from the tank and keeps the tank from being pressurized (by the air that is also returned by the scavenge pump). \\ | This promotes the evacuation of condensate from the tank and keeps the tank from being pressurized (by the air that is also returned by the scavenge pump). \\ | ||
| General oil line routing on AMF Sportsters: \\ | General oil line routing on AMF Sportsters: \\ | ||
| - | The vent and the return lines route under the starter and solenoid. (can't run over them since the exhaust is there) ((74XL of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80209)) \\ | + | The vent and the return lines route under the starter and solenoid. (can't run over them since the exhaust is there) ((74XL of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/39441-oil-line-routing-but-not-the-typical-question?t=80209)) \\ |
| - | Use care under the starter as to not kink or flatten the lines (rubber or copper) ((garbiker of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80209&page=2)) \\ | + | Use care under the starter as to not kink or flatten the lines (rubber or copper) ((garbiker of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/39441-oil-line-routing-but-not-the-typical-question/page2?t=80209&page=2)) \\ |
| Feed line runs out the bottom of the oil tank, close to the chain, around the swing arm and under. \\ | Feed line runs out the bottom of the oil tank, close to the chain, around the swing arm and under. \\ | ||
| - | The filter and cooler are (plumbed) in the return line. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=783392&page=2)) \\ | + | The filter and cooler are (plumbed) in the return line. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/94405-oil-line-routing-on-an-84/page2?t=783392&page=2)) \\ |
| ===== Oil Line Routing ===== | ===== Oil Line Routing ===== | ||
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| {{:techtalk:ih:oil:simplified_oil_routing_79-82_sportster_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:ih:oil:simplified_oil_routing_83-e84_sportster_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:ih:oil:simplified_oil_routing_l84-85_sportster_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} \\ | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:simplified_oil_routing_79-82_sportster_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:ih:oil:simplified_oil_routing_83-e84_sportster_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:ih:oil:simplified_oil_routing_l84-85_sportster_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} \\ | ||
| - | There is a steel bracket that holds the oil line in position. ((Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80209&page=2)) \\ | + | There is a steel bracket that holds the oil line in position. ((Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/39441-oil-line-routing-but-not-the-typical-question/page2?t=80209&page=2)) \\ |
| It mounts onto one of the rear engine mount or case bolts and keeps the line away from the chain.\\ | It mounts onto one of the rear engine mount or case bolts and keeps the line away from the chain.\\ | ||
| The bracket is a piece of .060" sheet metal about 3/4" wide and maybe 3" long with a hole in one end where the bolt passes through it. \\ | The bracket is a piece of .060" sheet metal about 3/4" wide and maybe 3" long with a hole in one end where the bolt passes through it. \\ | ||
| The other end is bent in a half circle that fits over the oil line and holds it against the frame / engine. \\ | The other end is bent in a half circle that fits over the oil line and holds it against the frame / engine. \\ | ||
| - | | Feed line behind the chain on 73 XLCH ((photo by Rush of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80209)) | Missing clamp allows the chain to rub the hose. ((photo by Dutch Bobber of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072104&highlight=oil+filter&page=2)) | A steel line was used to replace the rubber hose. ((photo by Dutch Bobber of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072104&highlight=oil+filter&page=2)) | | + | | Feed line behind the chain on 73 XLCH ((photo by Rush of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/39441-oil-line-routing-but-not-the-typical-question?t=80209)) | Missing clamp allows the chain to rub the hose. ((photo by Dutch Bobber of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/195705-ironhead-project/page2?t=2072104&highlight=oil+filter&page=2)) | A steel line was used to replace the rubber hose. ((photo by Dutch Bobber of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/195705-ironhead-project/page2?t=2072104&highlight=oil+filter&page=2)) | |
| |{{:techtalk:ih:oil:73_xlch_chain_and_tank_oil_line_by_rush.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:chain_rubbing_oil_line_by_dutch_bobber.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:steel_oil_line_replacement_by_dutch_bobber.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ih:oil:73_xlch_chain_and_tank_oil_line_by_rush.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:chain_rubbing_oil_line_by_dutch_bobber.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:steel_oil_line_replacement_by_dutch_bobber.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| 77-85: \\ | 77-85: \\ | ||
| The oil return comes off the front of the oil pump, not the top of the case like earlier years. \\ | The oil return comes off the front of the oil pump, not the top of the case like earlier years. \\ | ||
| - | Essentially you have the following lines: ((ericfreeman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=600218)) \\ | + | Essentially you have the following lines: ((ericfreeman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/81492-oil-lines?t=600218)) \\ |
| Feed: From the bottom of the oil tank to the rear fitting (inlet) on the oil pump. \\ | Feed: From the bottom of the oil tank to the rear fitting (inlet) on the oil pump. \\ | ||
| Return: From the top of the oil tank to the front oil pump fitting close to the pressure switch. \\ (perhaps after going through a cooler) \\ | Return: From the top of the oil tank to the front oil pump fitting close to the pressure switch. \\ (perhaps after going through a cooler) \\ | ||
| Vent: From the top of the oil tank to the 1/4" hose nipple on the upper backside of the cam cover in front of the sprocket. \\ | Vent: From the top of the oil tank to the 1/4" hose nipple on the upper backside of the cam cover in front of the sprocket. \\ | ||
| - | | Oil Lines on 77 XLCH. ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=209347&page=10)) || | + | | Oil Lines on 77 XLCH. ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/50355-and-yet-another-77-ground-up-rebuild/page10?t=209347&page=10)) || |
| |{{:techtalk:ih:oil:oil_line_routing_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:oil_line_routing_4_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ih:oil:oil_line_routing_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:oil_line_routing_4_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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| ==== 1957-1978 XL, XLH "Kidney" Tanks ==== | ==== 1957-1978 XL, XLH "Kidney" Tanks ==== | ||
| - | | Kidney tank on 1964 XLH ((photo by Magneto Sportster of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2075542&page=4)) | 1970 XLH Style Kidney Tank ((photo by golfish of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1838788)) | | + | | Kidney tank on 1964 XLH ((photo by Magneto Sportster of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/198705-magneto-sportster-s-1964-xlh-restoration-project/page4?t=2075542&page=4)) | 1970 XLH Style Kidney Tank ((photo by golfish of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/171411-battery-tray-and-oil-tank-mount-its-not-plug-n-play?t=1838788)) | |
| |{{:techtalk:ih:oil:1964_xlh_kidney_oil_tank_by_magneto_sportster_-_labeled_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970_xlh_oil_tank_by_golfish.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ih:oil:1964_xlh_kidney_oil_tank_by_magneto_sportster_-_labeled_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970_xlh_oil_tank_by_golfish.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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| * The lone fitting rear of the center flange is the feed (straight 3/8" hose barb). | * The lone fitting rear of the center flange is the feed (straight 3/8" hose barb). | ||
| * The fitting forward of the flange on the left (primary) side of the tank is the return and also uses a straight 3/8" hose barb. | * The fitting forward of the flange on the left (primary) side of the tank is the return and also uses a straight 3/8" hose barb. | ||
| - | * The fitting forward of the flange on the right (cam side) is the tank vent uses a 90° hose barb fitting for a 1/4" hose. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5442638#post5442638)) | + | * The fitting forward of the flange on the right (cam side) is the tank vent uses a 90° hose barb fitting for a 1/4" hose. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/186147-1970-lunchbox-oil-tank-routing#post3984656)) |
| * The drain plug is on the right bottom corner. \\ | * The drain plug is on the right bottom corner. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_fittings_by_bwf347.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Bwf347 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5895071#post5895071)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_fittings_by_bwf347.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Bwf347 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/202237-xlch-lunchbox-on-xlh-frame#post4499469)) \\ |
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic1_by_bwf347.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photos by Bwf347 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5895117#post5895117)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic2_by_bwf347.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photos by Bwf347 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5895117#post5895117)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic3_by_bwf347.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photos by Bwf347 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5895117#post5895117)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic1_by_bwf347.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photos by Bwf347 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/202237-xlch-lunchbox-on-xlh-frame#post4499515)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic2_by_bwf347.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photos by Bwf347 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/202237-xlch-lunchbox-on-xlh-frame#post4499515)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic3_by_bwf347.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photos by Bwf347 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/202237-xlch-lunchbox-on-xlh-frame#post4499515)) \\ |
| {{:techtalk:ih:oil:l1973-1978_xlch_oil_tank_pic1_by_paraord.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by paraord of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:l1973-1978_xlch_oil_tank_pic2_by_paraord.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by paraord of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:l1973-1978_xlch_oil_tank_pic3_by_paraord.jpg?direct&300|}}((photo by paraord of the XLFORUM)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:l1973-1978_xlch_oil_tank_pic1_by_paraord.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by paraord of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:l1973-1978_xlch_oil_tank_pic2_by_paraord.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by paraord of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:l1973-1978_xlch_oil_tank_pic3_by_paraord.jpg?direct&300|}}((photo by paraord of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
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| The drain plug is on the left bottom (79) and left side at the bottom (80-81). \\ | The drain plug is on the left bottom (79) and left side at the bottom (80-81). \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1979_sportster_oil_tank_by_smerch.jpg?direct&300|}} (((photo by smerch of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3879862&highlight=oil+tank#post3879862)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1980-1981_sportster_oil_tank_fittings_by_cycle_warehouse.png?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Cycle Warehouse https://cyclewarehouse.online/ (Ebay seller cyclewarehouse) )) | + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1979_sportster_oil_tank_by_smerch.jpg?direct&300|}} (((photo by smerch of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/133270-oil-line-routing-79-ironhead?highlight=oil+tank#post2842854)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1980-1981_sportster_oil_tank_fittings_by_cycle_warehouse.png?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Cycle Warehouse https://cyclewarehouse.online/ (Ebay seller cyclewarehouse) )) |
| ==== 1982-1993 Sportster Oil Tank ==== | ==== 1982-1993 Sportster Oil Tank ==== | ||
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| 1983-1993: The drain is the bigger straight nipple on the back near the bottom of the tank (1/2" hose fitting). \\ | 1983-1993: The drain is the bigger straight nipple on the back near the bottom of the tank (1/2" hose fitting). \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1982_sportster_oil_tank_fittings.png?direct&300|}} ((1982 Sportster Oil Tank (used with permission) )) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1983-1993_sportster_oil_tank_by_billeuze.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by billeuze of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1192983)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1982_sportster_oil_tank_fittings.png?direct&300|}} ((1982 Sportster Oil Tank (used with permission) )) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1983-1993_sportster_oil_tank_by_billeuze.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by billeuze of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/121711-new-oil-lines?t=1192983)) \\ |
| ===== Connections at the Oil Filter ===== | ===== Connections at the Oil Filter ===== | ||
| [[techtalk:ref:oil13|Click Here]] to reference "**Remote Oil Filters**" in the REF section of the Sportsterpedia for plumbing, connections and custom applications. \\ | [[techtalk:ref:oil13|Click Here]] to reference "**Remote Oil Filters**" in the REF section of the Sportsterpedia for plumbing, connections and custom applications. \\ | ||
| - | The oil filter (HD 63782-80T) is the small one that is usually used on custom bikes. Chrome or black can be found. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=563241)) \\ | + | The oil filter (HD 63782-80T) is the small one that is usually used on custom bikes. Chrome or black can be found. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing?t=563241)) \\ |
| - | On all spin on oil filters, dirty oil goes in the outside of the filter. Clean oil comes out the center. (( ryder rick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5643382&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5643382)) \\ | + | On all spin on oil filters, dirty oil goes in the outside of the filter. Clean oil comes out the center. (( ryder rick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/192457-oil-line-connecting-oil-filter-late-84/page2?highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post4166360)) \\ |
| If you are not sure, start the motor momentarily with the filter off and if oil is pumped out the center port, you have it backwards. \\ | If you are not sure, start the motor momentarily with the filter off and if oil is pumped out the center port, you have it backwards. \\ | ||
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| ===== Connections at the Engine ===== | ===== Connections at the Engine ===== | ||
| - | |Oil line connections on a 61 XLCH ((photo by ironheadjunkie of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1313106)) \\ Fittings (L) Return, (R) Feed, (hole) Vent|Oil line connections on a 67 XLCH ((photo by knotwerk of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=563241)) \\ 1- Return to tank, 2- Feed to motor, 3- Vent hose ((Monte03 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=563241))| | + | |Oil line connections on a 61 XLCH ((photo by ironheadjunkie of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/127716-need-a-little-help-on-oil-line-routing-please?threadid=1313106)) \\ Fittings (L) Return, (R) Feed, (hole) Vent|Oil line connections on a 67 XLCH ((photo by knotwerk of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing?t=563241)) \\ 1- Return to tank, 2- Feed to motor, 3- Vent hose ((Monte03 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing?t=563241))| |
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| - | | Oil lines on a 71 XLH w/ \\ custom mounted oil tank bungs ((photo by JonesL of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071385&highlight=oil+filter)) | Oil lines on a 72 XLCH (no filter) ((photo by Scuba10jdl of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071385&highlight=oil+filter)) | | + | | Oil lines on a 71 XLH w/ \\ custom mounted oil tank bungs ((photo by JonesL of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/195090-oil-line-routing-a-thought?t=2071385&highlight=oil+filter)) | Oil lines on a 72 XLCH (no filter) ((photo by Scuba10jdl of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/195090-oil-line-routing-a-thought?t=2071385&highlight=oil+filter)) | |
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| - | | Oil lines on a 74 XLH ((photo by vyper202 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1570042)) | Oil fittings on a 75 custom ((photo by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1592463&page=29)) | Oil lines on a 75 XLH ((photo by Dieselox4 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=475120)) | | + | | Oil lines on a 74 XLH ((photo by vyper202 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/144736-my-strange-oil-plumbing-pic-heavy?t=1570042)) | Oil fittings on a 75 custom ((photo by sifty of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/146604-first-harley-1975-xl1000-caf%C3%A9-project/page29?t=1592463&page=29)) | Oil lines on a 75 XLH ((photo by Dieselox4 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-styles/chopper-bobber-talk/70226-oil-tank-question?t=475120)) | |
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| - | This pic of a 74 model shows the chain oiler fitting (circled in green) which is usually just plugged off. ((ironheadjunkie of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1613141)) \\ | + | This pic of a 74 model shows the chain oiler fitting (circled in green) which is usually just plugged off. ((ironheadjunkie of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/148522-74-oil-line-return-to-tank-from?t=1613141)) \\ |
| The one circled in red is the vent return to the tank. \\ | The one circled in red is the vent return to the tank. \\ | ||
| - | |Oil fittings on a 74 model ((photo by whyNot, of the XLFORUM, as labeled by ironheadjunkie http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1613141&page=2)) | | + | |Oil fittings on a 74 model ((photo by whyNot, of the XLFORUM, as labeled by ironheadjunkie https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/148522-74-oil-line-return-to-tank-from/page2?t=1613141&page=2)) | |
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| ===== Connections Using an Oil Cooler ===== | ===== Connections Using an Oil Cooler ===== | ||
| Line 281: | Line 279: | ||
| 1983-Up models tanks have no drain plug but rather a drain hose from the back side of the tank plugged under the battery tray (left side). \\ | 1983-Up models tanks have no drain plug but rather a drain hose from the back side of the tank plugged under the battery tray (left side). \\ | ||
| It comes out from the tank, makes a 90 degree bend to the rear and fits into a cylindrical plug welded to the underside of the battery tray. \\ | It comes out from the tank, makes a 90 degree bend to the rear and fits into a cylindrical plug welded to the underside of the battery tray. \\ | ||
| - | (on the rear part of the tray, near where the battery strap is fastened) ((John Harper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1985862)) \\ | + | (on the rear part of the tray, near where the battery strap is fastened) ((John Harper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/lubrication-and-lubricants/185512-oil-drain-hose?t=1985862)) \\ |
| - | | 83-93 OEM oil drain location ((photo by RökkenRöll of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2069295)) | Oil drain with 82-93 retro oil tank ((photo by chris16371 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1985862)) | | + | | 83-93 OEM oil drain location ((photo by RökkenRöll of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/193293-oil-drain?t=2069295)) | Oil drain with 82-93 retro oil tank ((photo by chris16371 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/lubrication-and-lubricants/185512-oil-drain-hose?t=1985862)) | |
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| ====== Oil Lines to the Rockers ====== | ====== Oil Lines to the Rockers ====== | ||
| Installation: \\ | Installation: \\ | ||
| - | The ends are slightly different sizes. ((Ivan RoachCoach of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2505289#post2505289)) \\ | + | The ends are slightly different sizes. ((Ivan RoachCoach of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/92089-oil-pressure-issues/page2#post1917701)) \\ |
| The larger-sized ends go on the case and the smaller-diameter ones go to the rockers. \\ | The larger-sized ends go on the case and the smaller-diameter ones go to the rockers. \\ | ||
| In other words the closer they are to the oil pump, the bigger they should be. \\ | In other words the closer they are to the oil pump, the bigger they should be. \\ | ||
| Line 297: | Line 295: | ||
| If you have a leak here, you may not have to replace any parts. \\ | If you have a leak here, you may not have to replace any parts. \\ | ||
| Try to uninstall them, clean, inspect and reinstall them and see what happens. \\ | Try to uninstall them, clean, inspect and reinstall them and see what happens. \\ | ||
| - | Note for reinstalling the metal oil lines; ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1974660)) \\ | + | Note for reinstalling the metal oil lines; ((IronMick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/183535-earl-leak?t=1974660)) \\ |
| The line is just long enough to be inserted a small amount at each end at the fittings. \\ | The line is just long enough to be inserted a small amount at each end at the fittings. \\ | ||
| So insert at the top, then the bottom ensuring that it is more or less even from top and bottom. \\ | So insert at the top, then the bottom ensuring that it is more or less even from top and bottom. \\ | ||
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| Tighten them alternately, again keeping it from shifting. | Tighten them alternately, again keeping it from shifting. | ||
| - | Keep an eye on which style you buy (if any need replaced). ((hcrashsterof the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1974660)) \\ | + | Keep an eye on which style you buy (if any need replaced). ((hcrashsterof the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/183535-earl-leak?t=1974660)) \\ |
| The OEM is barrel shaped. \\ | The OEM is barrel shaped. \\ | ||
| Some aftermarkets are a barrel with 45° cuts on the top and bottom. \\ | Some aftermarkets are a barrel with 45° cuts on the top and bottom. \\ | ||
| Line 314: | Line 312: | ||
| Either a different polymer is used or you really need that full barrel shape to seal the oil line properly. | Either a different polymer is used or you really need that full barrel shape to seal the oil line properly. | ||
| - | | Rocker oil line ((photo by Ironshred of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1974660)) | | + | | Rocker oil line ((photo by Ironshred of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/183535-earl-leak?t=1974660)) | |
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| ====== Braided Oil Lines ====== | ====== Braided Oil Lines ====== | ||
| - | Braided lines can flex, leak, and sometimes flatten out. ((Ivan RoachCoach of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=221093&highlight=split+rocker+box)) \\ | + | Braided lines can flex, leak, and sometimes flatten out. ((Ivan RoachCoach of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/51523-question-about-my-rocker-oil-lines?t=221093&highlight=split+rocker+box)) \\ |
| - | Before you try threading any threads into your engine, try threading them on a pipe fitting first. ((MDT of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=221093&highlight=split+rocker+box)) \\ | + | Before you try threading any threads into your engine, try threading them on a pipe fitting first. ((MDT of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/51523-question-about-my-rocker-oil-lines?t=221093&highlight=split+rocker+box)) \\ |
| - | If the new parts are chromed then you should (must) wire wheel (with light pressure) the chromed threads before installation. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=221093&highlight=split+rocker+box)) \\ | + | If the new parts are chromed then you should (must) wire wheel (with light pressure) the chromed threads before installation. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/51523-question-about-my-rocker-oil-lines?t=221093&highlight=split+rocker+box)) \\ |
| This is especially important for chromed threaded bolts or bolts that have old Loctite on them. \\ | This is especially important for chromed threaded bolts or bolts that have old Loctite on them. \\ | ||
| * Always wear a face mask as you can loose hold of the bolt (using a wire wheel on a bench grinder) it will go flying. \\ | * Always wear a face mask as you can loose hold of the bolt (using a wire wheel on a bench grinder) it will go flying. \\ | ||
| Line 332: | Line 330: | ||
| ===== Copper, Brass and Stainless Tubing ===== | ===== Copper, Brass and Stainless Tubing ===== | ||
| These were made with flared fittings and are a positive seat fitting. \\ | These were made with flared fittings and are a positive seat fitting. \\ | ||
| - | They do not allow for any growth once the motor gets hot (if that's a concern). ((Monte03 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1793589&page=2)) \\ | + | They do not allow for any growth once the motor gets hot (if that's a concern). ((Monte03 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166922-rocker-box-oil-lines/page2?t=1793589&page=2)) \\ |
| The OEM style tubing uses slip compression type fittings which will allow expansion. \\ | The OEM style tubing uses slip compression type fittings which will allow expansion. \\ | ||
| However, the flared fittings have been used on Sportsters. \\ | However, the flared fittings have been used on Sportsters. \\ | ||
| Line 339: | Line 337: | ||
| ==== Copper ==== | ==== Copper ==== | ||
| - | | Copper Oil Lines ((photo by Sadsack of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1793589)) | | + | | Copper Oil Lines ((photo by Sadsack of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166922-rocker-box-oil-lines?t=1793589)) | |
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| ==== Brass ==== | ==== Brass ==== | ||
| - | | Brass oil lines ((photos by Levi Luther of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1793589&page=2)) || Brass oil lines on a 62 model ((photo by 62 Ironhead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/blog.php?u=57274)) | | + | | Brass oil lines ((photos by Levi Luther of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166922-rocker-box-oil-lines/page2?t=1793589&page=2)) || Brass oil lines on a 62 model ((photo by 62 Ironhead of the XLFORUM)) | |
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| ==== Stainless Steel ==== | ==== Stainless Steel ==== | ||
| Stainless steel tubing will polish up like chrome and does not rust. \\ | Stainless steel tubing will polish up like chrome and does not rust. \\ | ||
| - | You can also use Parker stainless steel fittings and 1/4" tubing. ((Bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1793589&page=4)) ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1793589&page=5)) \\ | + | You can also use Parker stainless steel fittings and 1/4" tubing. ((Bustert of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166922-rocker-box-oil-lines/page4?t=1793589&page=4)) ((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166922-rocker-box-oil-lines/page5?t=1793589&page=5)) \\ |
| They will come with compression fittings, DO NOT USE!!!! \\ | They will come with compression fittings, DO NOT USE!!!! \\ | ||
| Line 358: | Line 356: | ||
| You can use O-rings here if you have them also. \\ | You can use O-rings here if you have them also. \\ | ||
| - | | Stainless steel oil lines ((photo by Bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1793589&page=4)) || | + | | Stainless steel oil lines ((photo by Bustert of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/166922-rocker-box-oil-lines/page4?t=1793589&page=4)) || |
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