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| - | ====== IH: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-04H ====== | + | ====== IH: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-04G ====== |
| - | ====== Pics of Stock 1966-1978 XLCH "Lunchbox" Oil Tanks ====== | + | ====== Pics and Information on 1966-E1973 XLCH "Lunchbox" Oil Tanks ====== |
| - | Click on a pic to enlarge: \\ | + | See also in the Sportsterpedia; \\ |
| + | ….. *[[techtalk:ih:oil04#oil_line_routing|57-85 Oil Line Routing]] \\ | ||
| + | ….. *[[techtalk:ih:elec02m#pics_and_information_on_stock_ih_battery_trays_and_parts|Pics and Information on stock IH Battery Trays and Parts]] \\ | ||
| + | Click on any pic below to enlarge: \\ | ||
| ===== 1966-1969 Center Mount Tank ===== | ===== 1966-1969 Center Mount Tank ===== | ||
| There were 2 different filler caps for these tanks (62625-62 in 1966 and (62625-66A) in 1967 (both are screw-in type). \\ | There were 2 different filler caps for these tanks (62625-62 in 1966 and (62625-66A) in 1967 (both are screw-in type). \\ | ||
| - | This tank is taller than the 70-up lunchbox tanks, had a chain oiler port, banjo fitting for vent line, and used lower bolts with cotter pins, castle nuts and springs. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2629740#post2629740)) \\ | + | This tank is taller than the 70-up lunchbox tanks, had a chain oiler port, banjo fitting for vent line, and used lower bolts with cotter pins, castle nuts and springs. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/96210-xlch-lunchbox-oil-tank-question/page2#post2002919)) \\ |
| 66-69 CH oil tanks are not the same as 70-78. They are basically the same shape BUT it was moved across in 70 to fit the small battery on the left. \\ | 66-69 CH oil tanks are not the same as 70-78. They are basically the same shape BUT it was moved across in 70 to fit the small battery on the left. \\ | ||
| - | So all the bracketry don't fit. Later ones can be re-drilled to suit earlier frames but it's a pain in the butt. ((thefrenchowl of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2629740#post2629740)) \\ | + | So all the bracketry don't fit. Later ones can be re-drilled to suit earlier frames but it's a pain in the butt. ((thefrenchowl of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/96210-xlch-lunchbox-oil-tank-question/page2#post2002919)) \\ |
| Drain plug (704) is on the left side on the bottom of the tank. Oil filler hole is on the front side of the tank. \\ | Drain plug (704) is on the left side on the bottom of the tank. Oil filler hole is on the front side of the tank. \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_by_dr_dick.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Dr Dick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/132494-xlch-lunchbox-oil-tank?postid=3865458#post2833929)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1969_xlch_pic1_by_81fe_cropped_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by 81Fe of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/96210-xlch-lunchbox-oil-tank-question?t=806891)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_pic2_by_fdny37.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by fdny37 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/57457-1968-xlch-oil-lines-question?t=300601)) \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_by_dr_dick.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=3865458)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1969_xlch_pic1_by_81fe_cropped_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by 81Fe of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=806891)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_pic2_by_fdny37.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by fdny37 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300601)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_by_magneto_sportster.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Magneto Sportster of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/85218-1965-xlch-only-model-specific-help/page2?t=649699&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1969_xlch_pic2_by_81fe_cropped_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by 81Fe of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/96210-xlch-lunchbox-oil-tank-question?t=806891)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_pic1_by_fdny37.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by fdny37 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/57457-1968-xlch-oil-lines-question?t=300601)) \\ |
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| - | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_by_magneto_sportster.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Magneto Sportster of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=649699&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1969_xlch_pic2_by_81fe_cropped_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by 81Fe of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=806891)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_pic1_by_fdny37.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by fdny37 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300601)) \\ | + | |
| Mounts: \\ | Mounts: \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:69_xlch_oil_tank_mounts_pic2_by_monte03.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Monte03 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1949259&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:69_xlch_oil_tank_mounts_pic1_by_monte03.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Monte03 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1949259&page=2)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:69_xlch_oil_tank_mounts_pic2_by_monte03.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Monte03 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/181102-66-to-69-oil-tank-bracket-xlch/page2?t=1949259&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:69_xlch_oil_tank_mounts_pic1_by_monte03.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Monte03 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/181102-66-to-69-oil-tank-bracket-xlch/page2?t=1949259&page=2)) \\ |
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_fittings_pic1_by_fdny37.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by fdny37 of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/75381-stock-xlch-oil-tank-what-oil-line-goes-where?t=532359)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_fittings_pic2_by_fdny37.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by fdny37 of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/75381-stock-xlch-oil-tank-what-oil-line-goes-where?t=532359)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_oil_tank_fittings_pic3_by_fdny37.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by fdny37 of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/75381-stock-xlch-oil-tank-what-oil-line-goes-where?t=532359)) \\ | ||
| ===== 1970-E1973 Offset Mount Tank ===== | ===== 1970-E1973 Offset Mount Tank ===== | ||
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| This is the first year XLCH that had a battery. New tank to accommodate the battery. \\ | This is the first year XLCH that had a battery. New tank to accommodate the battery. \\ | ||
| 70-72 tanks are not notched on the flange between the top bolt holes. \\ | 70-72 tanks are not notched on the flange between the top bolt holes. \\ | ||
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| + | Both the return line connection and the vent line connections in the oil tank both have identical stand pipes inside the tank. \\ | ||
| + | You cannot see or reach these through the filler cap. ((piniongear of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/92028-oil-line-routing-and-getting-rid-of-chain-oiler?t=752321)) \\ | ||
| + | Generic 70s XLCH oil tank sketch . ((drawing by piniongear of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/160966-oil-lines?t=1728112)) \\ | ||
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| 1971 XLCH: \\ | 1971 XLCH: \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1971_xlch_by_piniongear.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by piniongear of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=806891)))) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1971_xlch_by_piniongear.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by piniongear of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/96210-xlch-lunchbox-oil-tank-question?t=806891)))) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic2_by_chefrex.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ChefRex of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/175503-68-xlch/page9?t=1882791&highlight=oil+tank&page=9)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_by_c3-cycle-tech.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of c3cycle.com, Link to site:https://www.c3cycle.com/)) \\ |
| 1972 XLCH: \\ | 1972 XLCH: \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1972_xlch_oil_tank_mounting_pic1_by_dirtycory.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1697065&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1972_xlch_oil_tank_mounting_pic2_by_dirtycory.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1697065&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1972_xlch_oil_tank_mounting_pic3_by_dirtycory.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1697065&page=2)) | + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1972_xlch_oil_tank_mounting_pic1_by_dirtycory.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/158548-trying-to-figure-out-the-stock-oil-tank-batt-setup-xlch/page2?t=1697065&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1972_xlch_oil_tank_mounting_pic2_by_dirtycory.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/158548-trying-to-figure-out-the-stock-oil-tank-batt-setup-xlch/page2?t=1697065&page=2)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1972_xlch_oil_tank_mounting_pic3_by_dirtycory.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/158548-trying-to-figure-out-the-stock-oil-tank-batt-setup-xlch/page2?t=1697065&page=2)) |
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| + | "Add-on" to 1968 XLCH: \\ | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic1_by_chefrex.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ChefRex of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/175503-68-xlch/page9?t=1882791&highlight=oil+tank&page=9)) \\ | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic3_by_chefrex.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ChefRex of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/175503-68-xlch/page9?t=1882791&highlight=oil+tank&page=9)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic4_by_chefrex.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ChefRex of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/175503-68-xlch/page9?t=1882791&highlight=oil+tank&page=9)) {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_oil_tank_pic5_by_chefrex.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ChefRex of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/175503-68-xlch/page9?t=1882791&highlight=oil+tank&page=9)) \\ | ||
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| + | ===== Mounting ===== | ||
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| + | * Upper bracket: \\ 1966-E1973 XLCH models: The "lunchbox" oil tank bracket is behind the seat casting under the backbone. \\ | ||
| + | * 1966-1971 models, the angle bracket is part of and welded to the frame (no part number) facing the front. | ||
| + | * 1972-E1973 models, the angled bracket (62554-72) is bolted with two bolts under the frame backbone and faces the rear. | ||
| + | * Lower bracket: | ||
| + | * 1966-1969 XLCH models use a wide angle bracket (62555-66) with 2 slotted holes each for both the oil tank and engine mount bolts. | ||
| + | * 1970-E1973 models use lower bracket (62555-70) | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1966-1969_xlch_lower_oil_tank_bracket_62555-66_.jpg?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:ih:oil:1970-e1973_xlch_lower_oil_tank_bracket_62555-70_by_johngoober_pic4.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Ebay seller, johngoober, [[https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?item=144998065911&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m3561.l2562&_ssn=johngoober|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | ||
| - | ===== L1973-1978 Offset Mount Tank ===== | ||
| - | The design of the frame changed in 1973. 1972-earlier used a heavy rough casting where the top tube and the vertical rear tubes meet. \\ | ||
| - | The 1972 and earlier frame tubes are canted at an angle of 10° where the 1973 frame tubes are at an angle of 9°45'. Not a great difference but still different. \\ | ||
| - | 1973 did away with the casting. \\ | ||
| - | And used what looks like lightweight welded strap metal with an angular bracing running from the rear engine mount up to the end of the fender supports. \\ | ||
| - | But a greater change (apart from the casting elimination) is the distance between the head tube and the rear vertical tubes. 1972 = 28.42", 1973 = 29.04". \\ | ||
| - | Even though the 1972 frame head had a greater rake angle (30°) the \\ 1973 rake angle was less (29°35') the distance to the rear tubes is greater. ((piniongear of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=806891)) \\ | ||
| - | 73-78 tanks are notched on the flange between the top bolt holes. This notch allowed HD to raise the tank position. \\ | ||
| - | Raising the tank meant that both the upper and lower mounts also changed. \\ | ||
| - | In 75, a ridge was added to the inside of the filler neck to retain the filler cap better. \\ The 73-78 bottom mount is taller for the raised tank. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1284627)) | ||
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