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techtalk:ih:transfinal03 [2018/04/17 22:17]
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hippysmack [Mainshaft Group]
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-^[[techtalk:​ref:​notes05#​speed_transmission_removal_inspection_installation|4 Speed Transmission Removal / Inspection / Installation]]^  ​+^[[techtalk:​ref:​svcproc10#​speed_transmission_removal_inspection_installation|4 Speed Transmission Removal / Inspection / Installation]]^  ​
  
  
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-===== Trapdoor ​Changes ​===== +===== Trapdoor ===== 
- +==== Sub Documents ====
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-=== L1984 trapdoor (34847-84) ​=== +
-Used after July 26, 1984 beginning with crankcase #785 208001, will retrofit to all XL models with an alternator and utilizes two slots for removal. An alignment tool (SNAP-ON 1650) or (MAC LF-12) or equivalent in the shape of a crowbar is recommended by the MoCo to draw the access door from the dowel pins. You can use a propane torch to carefully apply heat to the access door dowel pin area. Do not allow flame to rest on any one area for a prolonged period of time and wipe all the oil from access door prior to heating. Insert the hook end into each slot and gently alternate between the slots to evenly remove the door from the dowel pins. ((HD Service Bulletin #M-892 dated June 22, 1984)) It was sold for parts order as a kit including a retaining ring (11006) for the mainshaft / fourth gear bearing assembly and four T-27 screws (2712). ((HD Service Bulletin #M-894 dated September 7, 1984)) The torx screws contained a thread locker in pellet form on the threads which, when the screw is started in the hole, breaks and releases the compound. As a result, the old screws could not be used. The stator is directly bolted to the door by the four torx locking screws at 30-40 in-lbs. The L84-85 stator (29966-84) ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 35)) has 8 mounting holes with only four being used. To prevent possible chafing of the stator wire, you must use the proper holes when mounting the stator. Starting with the upper right set of holes (1-2)  and numbering clockwise from 1-8, you must use holes number 1, 3, 6 & 7. The 85 stator (29967-84) ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 35)) only has 4 holes. The mainshaft fourth gear bearing rests against a shelf in the trapdoor bore while the retaining ring sits in a groove in the door behind the bearing locking it in place. This beveled retaining ring is installed with the bevel side facing the transmission and the flat side facing the bearing. +
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-|Model Years|Part #|Retrofit to Years| +
-|1957-1974|34844-57| - ((1952-1959 Spare Parts Catalog for Sportster and K Models pg 11)) | +
-|1975-1976|34844-57A|1957-1976 ((1954-1976 HD Sporster Parts Catalog pg 13)) ((HD Service Bulletin #686 dated April 8, 1975))| +
-|1977-E1979|34844-57B| - ((1977 HD Sportster Parts Catalog Supplement pg 1)) ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 15))| +
-|L1979-E1984|34847-79| - ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 15))| +
-|L1984-1985|34847-84| - ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 15))| +
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 +* . . . [[techtalk:​ih:​transfinal03f|1957-1985 Transmission Trapdoor Pics and Information]]
  
 +|Model Years|Part #​|Casting#​|Retrofit to Years|
 +|1957-1974|34844-57|34845-54| - ((1952-1959 Spare Parts Catalog for Sportster and K Models pg 11)) |
 +|1975-1976|34844-57A|34845-54A|1957-1976 ((1954-1976 HD Sporster Parts Catalog pg 13)) ((HD Service Bulletin #686 dated April 8, 1975))|
 +|1977-E1979|34844-57B|34845-54B| - ((1977 HD Sportster Parts Catalog Supplement pg 1)) ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 15))|
 +|L1979-E1984|34847-79|34846-76F| - ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 15))|
 +|L1984-1985|34847-84| ​ | - ((1979-1985 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 15))|
  
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 ===== Sub-Documents ===== ===== Sub-Documents =====
  
-* . . . [[techtalk:ih:transfinal03a|"The Harton Fix" - Late 84-85 clutch shell magnet fix]]+* . . . [[techtalk:ref:priclutch01#​the_harton_fix_late_84-90_rotor_clutch_shell_magnets|"The Harton Fix" - Late 84-90 clutch shell magnet fix]]
  
  
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   * Minimum clearance between clutch teeth on starter clutch gear and clutch with starter in up position: .040 in.   ​((1970-1978 HD Sportster FSM pg 4-1))((1979-1985 HD Sportster FSM pg 6-3))   * Minimum clearance between clutch teeth on starter clutch gear and clutch with starter in up position: .040 in.   ​((1970-1978 HD Sportster FSM pg 4-1))((1979-1985 HD Sportster FSM pg 6-3))
   * Crankshaft endplay: .001 - .007 in. ((1970-1978 HD Sportster FSM pg 4-1))((1979-1985 HD Sportster FSM pg 6-3))   * Crankshaft endplay: .001 - .007 in. ((1970-1978 HD Sportster FSM pg 4-1))((1979-1985 HD Sportster FSM pg 6-3))
-  * 1979 was the last year you can outfit a Sportster with a kickstarter ((dave76 http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=513989&​highlight=speed))+  * 1979 was the last year you can outfit a Sportster with a kickstarter ((dave76 http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=513989))
  
 ===== Electric Start ===== ===== Electric Start =====
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   * Clutch gear on mainshaft: .001 - .002 in. loose   * Clutch gear on mainshaft: .001 - .002 in. loose
   * Mainshaft right side roller bearing: .0006 - .0014 in. loose  ​   * Mainshaft right side roller bearing: .0006 - .0014 in. loose  ​
 +  * Mainshaft roller bearings: ((dims provided by Gearhead88 of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​p=5983327#​post5983327))
 +    * (9095) Standard = .1562"
 +    * (9096) + .0004" = .1566"
 +    * (9097) + .0008" = .1570"
   * Mainshaft end play: .003 - .009 in. with all axial play removed ​   ​   * Mainshaft end play: .003 - .009 in. with all axial play removed ​   ​
   * Third gear   * Third gear