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techtalk:ref:engmech04k [2020/10/06 15:29]
hippysmack [Breather Valves (1957-Up)]
techtalk:ref:engmech04k [2020/10/09 13:54]
hippysmack [Breather Valves (1957-Up)]
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 **The 1972-1976** breather valve opens 20°-25° (ATDC) and closes 85°-90° (ABDC), less duration than the 57-71 breather. \\ **The 1972-1976** breather valve opens 20°-25° (ATDC) and closes 85°-90° (ABDC), less duration than the 57-71 breather. \\
  
 +|Left is the unmodified 1/4 speed R \\ valve. Right is the 1000 stock.|R model is the left one.|
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 **1977-78 models only**: ((Hopper of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=518948&​highlight=cam+chest+breather)) \\ **1977-78 models only**: ((Hopper of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=518948&​highlight=cam+chest+breather)) \\
 The timed breather on the oil pump drive was dropped. ​ \\ The timed breather on the oil pump drive was dropped. ​ \\
-Without the breather gear that means you less control of the oil / air density in the crankcase. \\+Without the breather gear that means you have less control of the oil / air density in the crankcase. \\
 An external non-return valve was plumbed into the breather vent tube sticking down from the timing cover at the generator drive. \\ An external non-return valve was plumbed into the breather vent tube sticking down from the timing cover at the generator drive. \\
 This allows air out, but not in. It is sometimes referred to as the foo-foo valve. \\ This allows air out, but not in. It is sometimes referred to as the foo-foo valve. \\
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-57-76 engines breath and scavenge oil from the same oil galley in the rear of the sump. \\ 
-<​blockquote>​The shallow sump, timed breather system, comes from the aviation world of old. ((mrmom9r of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1204854&​page=4)) \\  
-Piston driven aircraft had to be able to evacuate the oil from the crankcase regardless of engine altitude and that system does that. \\ 
-At the time Harley adapted that system they were copying the highest engine technology of the day. \\ 
-They just took too long to abandon it as technology advanced. \\ 
-Documents from HD Racing from the period show no HP gain between the 2 ironhead systems when the breather is properly timed ( which didn't happen a lot). \\ 
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-The rotary breather valve is integrated with the oil pump. The gear on top of the valve also operates the oil pump. \\ 
-The breather valve connects the flywheel area to the gearcase. \\ 
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-The rotary breather valve functions to relieve pressure in the crankcase caused by the downstroke of the pistons and it controls the flow of oil in the lubrication system. \\ 
-It is timed to engine rotation and opens on the downstroke of the pistons. ((1960 HD FSM pg 3a-15)) \\ 
-This allows crankcase exhaust air pressure to expel the scavenge oil from the crankcase breather oil trap into the gearcase. \\ 
-The breather valve then closes on piston upstroke, creating vacuum in the crankcase. \\ 
-Crankcase exhaust air from the gearcase is sent out the breather tube. \\ 
-Any oil still in suspension with the air on the way to the breather tube is separated by an oil slinger on the generator drive gear. \\ 
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-|Left is the unmodified 1/4 speed R \\ valve. Right is the 1000 stock.|R model is the left one.| 
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