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====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication ====== | ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication ====== | ||
====== Remote Oil Filters ====== | ====== Remote Oil Filters ====== | ||
+ | The stock oil filter (HD 63782-80T) is the small one that is usually used on custom bikes. Chrome or black can be found. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=563241)) \\ | ||
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+ | However, it is also commonly known that the more oil you hold, the more motor heat can be transferred to dissipate that heat. \\ | ||
+ | Race bikes have huge oil tanks for that reason. ((Monte03 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=563241)) \\ | ||
+ | If you go the filter route, be sure to purge the lines by bleeding the pump front nipple first while running. \\ | ||
+ | Then take the return line and place it into a pail before you connect to the barb tank fitting so you assure a complete circle has been made. | ||
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+ | ====== Plumbing to Oil Filter ====== | ||
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+ | **Note**: On all spin on oil filters, dirty oil goes in the outside of the filter. Clean oil comes out the center. (( ryder rick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5643382&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5643382)) \\ | ||
+ | If you are not sure, start the motor momentarily with the filter off and if oil is pumped out the center port, you have it backwards. | ||
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+ | ====== In-Tank to External Spin-on Filter Conversion and Plumbing for Ironheads ====== | ||
+ | The 1978 parts catalog lists an external oil filter kit (63795-77) for 77-78 models. Filter mounts on an (included) chrome left lower front motor mount (similar to the 82-E84 mount). \\ | ||
+ | Also in the kit is a chrome oil filter (63796- 77A), hose fitting (63792-77), length of hose, 3 hose clamps (9946) and 3 cable straps. \\ | ||
+ | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_kit_63795-77_pic1_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_kit_63795-77_pic2_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | ||
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+ | Simplified drawings showing the different routing of lines for 1957 to 1978 Sportsters while removing the (in-tank) oil filter. \\ | ||
+ | Click on a drawing or pic to enlarge. \\ | ||
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+ | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:57-66_xlh_and_58-69_xlch_oil_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:67-76_xlh_and_70-76_xlch_oil_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack_done_w_3d.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:77-78_sportster_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) \\ | ||
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+ | | 74 XLH Oil Filter Plumbing ((photo by vyper202 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1570042)) | | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ih:oil:74_oil_line_routing_4_by_vyper202.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====== Parts / Kits ====== | ||
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Below is a parts list for a remote oil filter setup although it's not a kit per say; ((HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337)) \\ | Below is a parts list for a remote oil filter setup although it's not a kit per say; ((HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337)) \\ | ||
Derale spin-on bypass adapter with dual 1/2" NPT ports. ((https://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/15703/10002/-1)) \\ | Derale spin-on bypass adapter with dual 1/2" NPT ports. ((https://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/15703/10002/-1)) \\ | ||
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{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_parts_by_holyhandgrenade.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337)) | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_parts_by_holyhandgrenade.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337)) | ||
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{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_relocation_kit_by_dk_custom.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DK Custom of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5511484)) | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_relocation_kit_by_dk_custom.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DK Custom of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5511484)) | ||
- | ====== Ironhead Oil Filter Locations ====== | + | ====== Filter Mounting Locations ====== |
- | ====== Forward mounted filters ====== | + | See also [[techtalk:ih:oil01#oil_filter_mount|OEM Ironhead oil filter mount locations]] in the Sportsterpedia. \\ |
+ | \\ | ||
===== On the left motor mount ===== | ===== On the left motor mount ===== | ||
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They are piped off the return hose to the tank. \\ | They are piped off the return hose to the tank. \\ | ||
- | | Motor mount oil filter adapter. ((photos by Gone of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2462458)) || Installed position ((photo by RDiesel of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2004928&highlight=oil+filter+mount&page=2)) | | + | | Motor mount / Oil filter adapter. ((photos by Gone of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2462458)) || Installed position ((photo by RDiesel of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2004928&highlight=oil+filter+mount&page=2)) | |
|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_gone.jpg?direct&150|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_gone.jpg?direct&150|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_rdiesel.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_gone.jpg?direct&150|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_gone.jpg?direct&150|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_rdiesel.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_on_69_xlch_1_by_nutter.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_by_konel1.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:80_xlh_left_side_by_hscic.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_on_69_xlch_1_by_nutter.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_by_konel1.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:80_xlh_left_side_by_hscic.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
+ | ===== Other forward positions ===== | ||
+ | |||
+ | | This one sets the filter upside down. ((photos by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611)) || | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
+ | |||
+ | ---- | ||
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+ | |A simple bracket with a piece of angle iron bolted to the right frame rail. \\ An automotive spin on filter mount with a 3/4"-16 threaded stem was bolted to it. \\ The PH6022 filter is Fram's cross reference with Harley 63805-80. ((DDDDylan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5280955&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5280955))|| | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_2_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_1_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
+ | |||
+ | ---- | ||
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+ | This is an after market filter and cooler setup on a 77 model. ((photo by BLIGHT of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=578083)) \\ | ||
+ | The filter adapter is 5/"x24. However, you can buy adapters online to increase the adapter size to 13/16" or 3/4". \\ | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_and_cooler_by_blight.jpg?direct&250|}}| | ||
+ | |||
+ | ---- | ||
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+ | This reportedly an old drag specialties item from the early eighty's. ((hasselme0 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) ((photos by 78ironhead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) \\ | ||
+ | It uses the older felt type filters made for early shovels and is a cooler/filter all in one. \\ | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_2_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_4_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_1_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_3_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | ===== Rear mounted filters ===== | ||
+ | |||
+ | | Custom built oil filter mount. ((photos by dm4x4 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611)) ||| | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
+ | |||
+ | ---- | ||
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+ | | Custom oil filter on 72 XLH build ((photos by Custom Oil Filter Mount 1 by gixeron1wheel of the XLFORUM | ||
+ | http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1286445&page=3)) || Custom Oil filter on 74 Custom IH ((photo by elteee69 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107243&highlight=fuel+tank&page=11)) | | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_on_74_chopper_by_elteee69.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
+ | |||
+ | ---- | ||
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+ | | Custom oil filter mount on an 81 XLH ((photos by teledude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=2)) ||| | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | |As mounted ((photo by teldude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=5))| | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_4_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
+ | |||
+ | ---- | ||
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+ | | 'Out of Tank' filter mount ((photo by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5)) | | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_4_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | |Filter mounted onto oil tank. The return oil goes through a loop inside of tank, back out through filter and returns through center of filter. ((photos by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))||| | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_1_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_2_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_3_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
+ | ====== Modified and Custom Oil Filter Mounts ====== | ||
+ | \\ | ||
===== Modifying a standard motor mount for use as a oil filter mount ===== | ===== Modifying a standard motor mount for use as a oil filter mount ===== | ||
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| Standard motor mount mod for addition of an oil filter ((photos by bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1266793)) || Marking the center hole for the filter ((drawing by Hippysmack)) | | | Standard motor mount mod for addition of an oil filter ((photos by bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1266793)) || Marking the center hole for the filter ((drawing by Hippysmack)) | | ||
|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:ih_oil_filter_mount_1_by_bustert.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:ih_oil_filter_mount_2_by_bustert.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:finding_center_of_a_circle_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:ih_oil_filter_mount_1_by_bustert.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:ih_oil_filter_mount_2_by_bustert.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:finding_center_of_a_circle_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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* **Plug the small hole in the left motor mount**: \\ (hole #1 in the pic above) | * **Plug the small hole in the left motor mount**: \\ (hole #1 in the pic above) | ||
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===== Build Your Own Motor / Oil Filter Mount ===== | ===== Build Your Own Motor / Oil Filter Mount ===== | ||
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Article by sifty of the XLFORUM ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\ | Article by sifty of the XLFORUM ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\ | ||
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|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_16_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_17_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_18_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_16_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_17_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_18_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
- | ===== Other forward positions ===== | ||
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- | | This one sets the filter upside down. ((photos by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611)) || | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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- | ---- | ||
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- | |A simple bracket with a piece of angle iron bolted to the right frame rail. \\ An automotive spin on filter mount with a 3/4"-16 threaded stem was bolted to it. \\ The PH6022 filter is Fram's cross reference with Harley 63805-80. ((DDDDylan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5280955&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5280955))|| | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_2_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_1_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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- | ---- | ||
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- | This is an after market filter and cooler setup on a 77 model. ((photo by BLIGHT of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=578083)) \\ | ||
- | The filter adapter is 5/"x24. However, you can buy adapters online to increase the adapter size to 13/16" or 3/4". \\ | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_and_cooler_by_blight.jpg?direct&250|}}| | ||
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- | ---- | ||
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- | This reportedly an old drag specialties item from the early eighty's. ((hasselme0 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) ((photos by 78ironhead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) \\ | ||
- | It uses the older felt type filters made for early shovels and is a cooler/filter all in one. \\ | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_2_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_4_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_1_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_3_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | ====== S&S Oil Filter Mount (1986-1990) ====== | ||
+ | This billet oil filter mounting bracket (751510) fits any generator engine with 5/16" generator mounting holes and replaces the OEM 1986-1990 Sportster filter pad. ((https://catalog.zodiac.nl/en/19-oil-tank-filter-line/oil-filter/s-s-oil-filter-mount-5335)) \\ | ||
+ | The oil filter bracket seals off the cam chest and provides a convenient place for a spin-on oil filter. \\ | ||
+ | The bracket is machined for easy routing of an oil cooler in all applications and accepts the stock oil pressure sending switch. \\ | ||
+ | It does not have an oil pressure regulator built into it like the OEM filter pad does. ((A 4 liter V8 eater of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1359577&page=88)) \\ | ||
+ | | S&S oil filter mount. ((photos by A 4 liter V8 eater of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1359577&page=89)) || | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_mount_sands_1986-1990_pic1_by_a_4_liter_v8_eater.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_mount_sands_1986-1990_pic2_by_a_4_liter_v8_eater.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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- | ====== Rear mounted filters ====== | ||
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- | | Custom built oil filter mount. ((photos by dm4x4 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611)) ||| | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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- | ---- | ||
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- | | Custom oil filter on 72 XLH build ((photos by Custom Oil Filter Mount 1 by gixeron1wheel of the XLFORUM | ||
- | http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1286445&page=3)) || Custom Oil filter on 74 Custom IH ((photo by elteee69 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107243&highlight=fuel+tank&page=11)) | | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_on_74_chopper_by_elteee69.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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- | ---- | ||
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- | | Custom oil filter mount on an 81 XLH ((photos by teledude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=2)) ||| | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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- | |As mounted ((photo by teldude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=5))| | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_4_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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- | ---- | ||
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- | | 'Out of Tank' filter mount ((photo by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5)) | | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_4_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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- | |Filter mounted onto oil tank. The return oil goes through a loop inside of tank, back out through filter and returns through center of filter. ((photos by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))||| | ||
- | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_1_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_2_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_3_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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