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 ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication ======
 ====== Remote Oil Filters ======
+The stock oil filter (HD 63782-80T) is the small one that is usually used on custom bikes. Chrome or black can be found. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing?t=563241)) \\
+However, it is also commonly known that the more oil you hold, the more motor heat can be transferred to dissipate that heat. \\
+Race bikes have huge oil tanks for that reason. ((Monte03 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing?t=563241)) \\
+If you go the filter route, be sure to purge the lines by bleeding the pump front nipple first while running. \\
+Then take the return line and place it into a pail before you connect to the barb tank fitting so you assure a complete circle has been made.
+====== Plumbing to Oil Filter ======
+**Note**: On all spin on oil filters, dirty oil goes in the outside of the filter. Clean oil comes out the center. (( ryder rick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5643382&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5643382)) \\
+If you are not sure, start the motor momentarily with the filter off and if oil is pumped out the center port, you have it backwards.
+====== In-Tank to External Spin-on Filter Conversion and Plumbing for Ironheads ======
+The 1978 parts catalog lists an external oil filter kit (63795-77) for 77-78 models. Filter mounts on an (included) chrome left lower front motor mount (similar to the 82-E84 mount). \\
+Also in the kit is a chrome oil filter (63796- 77A), hose fitting (63792-77), length of hose, 3 hose clamps (9946) and 3 cable straps. \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_kit_63795-77_pic1_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_kit_63795-77_pic2_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\
+Simplified drawings showing the different routing of lines for 1957 to 1978 Sportsters while removing the (in-tank) oil filter. \\
+Click on a drawing or pic to enlarge. \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:57-66_xlh_and_58-69_xlch_oil_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:67-76_xlh_and_70-76_xlch_oil_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack_done_w_3d.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:77-78_sportster_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) \\
+|  74 XLH Oil Filter Plumbing ((photo by vyper202 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1570042))  |
+|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:74_oil_line_routing_4_by_vyper202.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+====== Parts / Kits ======
 Below is a parts list for a remote oil filter setup although it's not a kit per say; ((HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337)) \\
 Derale spin-on bypass adapter with dual 1/2" NPT ports. ((https://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/15703/10002/-1)) \\
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 {{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_parts_by_holyhandgrenade.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337))
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 {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_relocation_kit_by_dk_custom.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DK Custom of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5511484))
-====== Ironhead Oil Filter Locations ======
+====== Filter Mounting Locations ======
-====== Forward mounted filters ======
+See also [[techtalk:ih:oil01#oil_filter_mount|OEM Ironhead oil filter mount locations]] in the Sportsterpedia. \\
+\\
 ===== On the left motor mount =====
 The OEM filter is mounted on the lower left front engine mount on 82-E84 models. \\
 This has also been a popular practice on earlier bikes. \\
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 They are piped off the return hose to the tank. \\
-|  Motor mount oil filter adapter. ((photos by Gone of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2462458))  ||  Installed position ((photo by RDiesel of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2004928&highlight=oil+filter+mount&page=2))  |
+|  Motor mount / Oil filter adapter. ((photos by Gone of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2462458))  ||  Installed position ((photo by RDiesel of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2004928&highlight=oil+filter+mount&page=2))  |
 |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_gone.jpg?direct&150|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_gone.jpg?direct&150|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_rdiesel.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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 |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_on_69_xlch_1_by_nutter.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_by_konel1.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:80_xlh_left_side_by_hscic.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+===== Other forward positions =====
+|  This one sets the filter upside down. ((photos by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611))  ||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-===== Modifying a standard motor mount for use as a oil filter mount =====
+----
+|A simple bracket with a piece of angle iron bolted to the right frame rail. \\ An automotive spin on filter mount with a 3/4"-16 threaded stem was bolted to it. \\ The PH6022 filter is Fram's cross reference with Harley 63805-80. ((DDDDylan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5280955&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5280955))||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_2_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_1_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+----
+This is an after market filter and cooler setup on a 77 model. ((photo by BLIGHT of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=578083)) \\
+The filter adapter is 5/"x24. However, you can buy adapters online to increase the adapter size to 13/16" or 3/4". \\
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_and_cooler_by_blight.jpg?direct&250|}}|
+----
+This reportedly an old drag specialties item from the early eighty's. ((hasselme0 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) ((photos by 78ironhead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) \\
+It uses the older felt type filters made for early shovels and is a cooler/filter all in one. \\
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_2_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_4_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_1_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_3_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+===== Rear mounted filters =====
+|  Custom built oil filter mount. ((photos by dm4x4 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611))  |||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+----
+|  Custom oil filter on 72 XLH build ((photos by Custom Oil Filter Mount 1 by gixeron1wheel of the XLFORUM
+http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1286445&page=3))  ||  Custom Oil filter on 74 Custom IH ((photo by elteee69 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107243&highlight=fuel+tank&page=11))  |
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_on_74_chopper_by_elteee69.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+----
+|  Custom oil filter mount on an 81 XLH ((photos by teledude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=2))  |||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+|As mounted ((photo by teldude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=5))|
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_4_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+----
+|  'Out of Tank' filter mount ((photo by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))  |
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_4_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+|Filter mounted onto oil tank. The return oil goes through a loop inside of tank, back out through filter and returns through center of filter. ((photos by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))|||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_1_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_2_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_3_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+====== Modified and Custom Oil Filter Mounts ======
+\\
+===== Modifying a standard motor mount for use as a oil filter mount =====
   * This can be done on the bike but it's easier to remove the motor mount and do the work on the bench. ((bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1266793)) \\
   * **Simplified version**:
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 |  Standard motor mount mod for addition of an oil filter ((photos by bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1266793))  ||  Marking the center hole for the filter ((drawing by Hippysmack))  |
 |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:ih_oil_filter_mount_1_by_bustert.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:ih_oil_filter_mount_2_by_bustert.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:finding_center_of_a_circle_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|
   * **Plug the small hole in the left motor mount**: \\ (hole #1 in the pic above)
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 Article by sifty of the XLFORUM ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\
-This mod fits 3/4" 19 TPI type screw-on filters. ((sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\
+This mod fits 3/4" 19 TPI type screw-on filters. ((photos by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\
 Parts / Tools:
   * 3/4" x 1" UNF bolt.
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 There is a dedicated gasket face built by dishing out the bulk of a metal plate. \\
-The pipe fittings are threaded into the plate and bolt and sealed with thread tape / crush washers. \\
+The pipe fittings are threaded into the plate and bolt and sealed with thread tape / crush washers. ((photos by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\
 |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_2_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_3_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_4_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-A 100 x 10mm mild steel flat plate was chucked up into a 4-jaw chuck, skimmed for a gasket surface, center bored and dished for the filter section. \\
+A 100 x 10mm mild steel flat plate was chucked up into a 4-jaw chuck, skimmed for a gasket surface, center bored and dished for the filter section. ((photos by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\
 |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_5_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_6_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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 The bore was tapped to accept the 3/4" BSP connector. \\
 The plate was then roughly mock sketched and cut with an angle grinder, cut-off discs and a file. \\
-The final shape will be done when you can hold it in place relevant to mounting bolts etc. \\
+The final shape will be done when you can hold it in place relevant to mounting bolts etc. ((photos by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\
 |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_7_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_8_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_9_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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 Then the plate was mounted back in the lathe to turn down the mounting tabs. \\
 This will reduce unnecessary weight and allow the use of the original engine mount bolt on the front tab. \\
-The filter sets there better using the engine bolt. \\
+The filter sets there better using the engine bolt. ((photos by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\
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 The weld was turned down flush and the hole was drilled and tapped for the oil inlet hole. \\
 The motor mount was drilled and tapped for the plate while on the bike. \\
-Then the filter surface was masked off and the plate was etch primed and top coated. \\
+Then the filter surface was masked off and the plate was etch primed and top coated. ((photos by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\
 |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_13_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_14_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_15_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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 (to allow for using the original engine mounting bolt) \\
 This solid flat steel plate could be thought of as a really big washer. \\
-The oil line connectors protrude through the engine mounting plate and are accessible for connections. \\
+The oil line connectors protrude through the engine mounting plate and are accessible for connections. ((photos by sifty of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\
 |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_16_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_17_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_18_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-===== Other forward positions =====
-|  This one sets the filter upside down. ((photos by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611))  ||
+====== S&S Oil Filter Mount (1986-1990) ======
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+This billet oil filter mounting bracket (751510) fits any generator engine with 5/16" generator mounting holes and replaces the OEM 1986-1990 Sportster filter pad. ((https://catalog.zodiac.nl/en/19-oil-tank-filter-line/oil-filter/s-s-oil-filter-mount-5335)) \\
+The oil filter bracket seals off the cam chest and provides a convenient place for a spin-on oil filter. \\
+The bracket is machined for easy routing of an oil cooler in all applications and accepts the stock oil pressure sending switch. \\
+It does not have an oil pressure regulator built into it like the OEM filter pad does. ((A 4 liter V8 eater of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1359577&page=88)) \\
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+|  S&S oil filter mount. ((photos by A 4 liter V8 eater of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1359577&page=89))  ||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_mount_sands_1986-1990_pic1_by_a_4_liter_v8_eater.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_mount_sands_1986-1990_pic2_by_a_4_liter_v8_eater.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|A simple bracket with a piece of angle iron bolted to the right frame rail. \\ An automotive spin on filter mount with a 3/4"-16 threaded stem was bolted to it. \\ The PH6022 filter is Fram's cross reference with Harley 63805-80. ((DDDDylan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5280955&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5280955))||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_2_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_1_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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-This is an after market filter and cooler setup on a 77 model. ((photo by BLIGHT of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=578083)) \\
-The filter adapter is 5/"x24. However, you can buy adapters online to increase the adapter size to 13/16" or 3/4". \\
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_and_cooler_by_blight.jpg?direct&250|}}|
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-This reportedly an old drag specialties item from the early eighty's. ((hasselme0 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) ((photos by 78ironhead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) \\
-It uses the older felt type filters made for early shovels and is a cooler/filter all in one. \\
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_2_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_4_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_1_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_3_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-====== Rear mounted filters ======
-|  Custom built oil filter mount. ((photos by dm4x4 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611))  |||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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-|  Custom oil filter on 72 XLH build ((photos by Custom Oil Filter Mount 1 by gixeron1wheel of the XLFORUM
-http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1286445&page=3))  ||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|
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-|  Custom oil filter mount on an 81 XLH ((photos by teledude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=2))  |||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|As mounted ((photo by teldude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=5))|
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_4_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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-|  'Out of Tank' filter mount ((photo by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))  |
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_4_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|Filter mounted onto oil tank. The return oil goes through a loop inside of tank, back out through filter and returns through center of filter. ((photos by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))|||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_1_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_2_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_3_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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