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 ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication ======
 ====== Remote Oil Filters ======
+The stock oil filter (HD 63782-80T) is the small one that is usually used on custom bikes. Chrome or black can be found. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing?t=563241)) \\
+However, it is also commonly known that the more oil you hold, the more motor heat can be transferred to dissipate that heat. \\
+Race bikes have huge oil tanks for that reason. ((Monte03 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing?t=563241)) \\
+If you go the filter route, be sure to purge the lines by bleeding the pump front nipple first while running. \\
+Then take the return line and place it into a pail before you connect to the barb tank fitting so you assure a complete circle has been made.
+====== Plumbing to Oil Filter ======
+**Note**: On all spin on oil filters, dirty oil goes in the outside of the filter. Clean oil comes out the center. (( ryder rick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5643382&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5643382)) \\
+If you are not sure, start the motor momentarily with the filter off and if oil is pumped out the center port, you have it backwards.
+====== In-Tank to External Spin-on Filter Conversion and Plumbing for Ironheads ======
+The 1978 parts catalog lists an external oil filter kit (63795-77) for 77-78 models. Filter mounts on an (included) chrome left lower front motor mount (similar to the 82-E84 mount). \\
+Also in the kit is a chrome oil filter (63796- 77A), hose fitting (63792-77), length of hose, 3 hose clamps (9946) and 3 cable straps. \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_kit_63795-77_pic1_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_kit_63795-77_pic2_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\
+Simplified drawings showing the different routing of lines for 1957 to 1978 Sportsters while removing the (in-tank) oil filter. \\
+Click on a drawing or pic to enlarge. \\
+{{:techtalk:ref:oil:57-66_xlh_and_58-69_xlch_oil_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:67-76_xlh_and_70-76_xlch_oil_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack_done_w_3d.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:77-78_sportster_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) \\
+|  74 XLH Oil Filter Plumbing ((photo by vyper202 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1570042))  |
+|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:74_oil_line_routing_4_by_vyper202.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+====== Parts / Kits ======
 Below is a parts list for a remote oil filter setup although it's not a kit per say; ((HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337)) \\
 Derale spin-on bypass adapter with dual 1/2" NPT ports. ((https://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/15703/10002/-1)) \\
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 {{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_parts_by_holyhandgrenade.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337))
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 {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_relocation_kit_by_dk_custom.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by DK Custom of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5511484))
-====== Ironhead Oil Filter Locations ======
+====== Filter Mounting Locations ======
-====== Forward mounted filters ======
+See also [[techtalk:ih:oil01#oil_filter_mount|OEM Ironhead oil filter mount locations]] in the Sportsterpedia. \\
+\\
 ===== On the left motor mount =====
 The OEM filter is mounted on the lower left front engine mount on 82-E84 models. \\
 This has also been a popular practice on earlier bikes. \\
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 They are piped off the return hose to the tank. \\
-|  Motor mount oil filter adapter. ((photos by Gone of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2462458))  ||  Installed position ((photo by RDiesel of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2004928&highlight=oil+filter+mount&page=2))  |
+|  Motor mount / Oil filter adapter. ((photos by Gone of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2462458))  ||  Installed position ((photo by RDiesel of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2004928&highlight=oil+filter+mount&page=2))  |
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+===== Other forward positions =====
+|  This one sets the filter upside down. ((photos by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611))  ||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-===== Modifying a standard motor mount for use as a oil filter mount =====
+----
+|A simple bracket with a piece of angle iron bolted to the right frame rail. \\ An automotive spin on filter mount with a 3/4"-16 threaded stem was bolted to it. \\ The PH6022 filter is Fram's cross reference with Harley 63805-80. ((DDDDylan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5280955&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5280955))||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_2_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_1_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+----
+This is an after market filter and cooler setup on a 77 model. ((photo by BLIGHT of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=578083)) \\
+The filter adapter is 5/"x24. However, you can buy adapters online to increase the adapter size to 13/16" or 3/4". \\
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_and_cooler_by_blight.jpg?direct&250|}}|
+----
+This reportedly an old drag specialties item from the early eighty's. ((hasselme0 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) ((photos by 78ironhead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) \\
+It uses the older felt type filters made for early shovels and is a cooler/filter all in one. \\
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_2_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_4_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_1_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_3_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+===== Rear mounted filters =====
+|  Custom built oil filter mount. ((photos by dm4x4 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611))  |||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+----
+|  Custom oil filter on 72 XLH build ((photos by Custom Oil Filter Mount 1 by gixeron1wheel of the XLFORUM
+http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1286445&page=3))  ||  Custom Oil filter on 74 Custom IH ((photo by elteee69 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107243&highlight=fuel+tank&page=11))  |
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_on_74_chopper_by_elteee69.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+----
+|  Custom oil filter mount on an 81 XLH ((photos by teledude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=2))  |||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+|As mounted ((photo by teldude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=5))|
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_4_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+----
+|  'Out of Tank' filter mount ((photo by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))  |
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_4_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+|Filter mounted onto oil tank. The return oil goes through a loop inside of tank, back out through filter and returns through center of filter. ((photos by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))|||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_1_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_2_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_3_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+====== Modified and Custom Oil Filter Mounts ======
+\\
+===== Modifying a standard motor mount for use as a oil filter mount =====
   * This can be done on the bike but it's easier to remove the motor mount and do the work on the bench. ((bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1266793)) \\
   * **Simplified version**:
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 |  Standard motor mount mod for addition of an oil filter ((photos by bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1266793))  ||  Marking the center hole for the filter ((drawing by Hippysmack))  |
 |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:ih_oil_filter_mount_1_by_bustert.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:ih_oil_filter_mount_2_by_bustert.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:finding_center_of_a_circle_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|
   * **Plug the small hole in the left motor mount**: \\ (hole #1 in the pic above)
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-===== Other forward positions =====
-|  This one sets the filter upside down. ((photos by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611))  ||
+====== S&S Oil Filter Mount (1986-1990) ======
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|
+This billet oil filter mounting bracket (751510) fits any generator engine with 5/16" generator mounting holes and replaces the OEM 1986-1990 Sportster filter pad. ((https://catalog.zodiac.nl/en/19-oil-tank-filter-line/oil-filter/s-s-oil-filter-mount-5335)) \\
+The oil filter bracket seals off the cam chest and provides a convenient place for a spin-on oil filter. \\
+The bracket is machined for easy routing of an oil cooler in all applications and accepts the stock oil pressure sending switch. \\
+It does not have an oil pressure regulator built into it like the OEM filter pad does. ((A 4 liter V8 eater of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1359577&page=88)) \\
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+|  S&S oil filter mount. ((photos by A 4 liter V8 eater of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1359577&page=89))  ||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_mount_sands_1986-1990_pic1_by_a_4_liter_v8_eater.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_mount_sands_1986-1990_pic2_by_a_4_liter_v8_eater.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|A simple bracket with a piece of angle iron bolted to the right frame rail. \\ An automotive spin on filter mount with a 3/4"-16 threaded stem was bolted to it. \\ The PH6022 filter is Fram's cross reference with Harley 63805-80. ((DDDDylan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5280955&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5280955))||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_2_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:remote_oil_filter_1_by_ddddylan.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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-This is an after market filter and cooler setup on a 77 model. ((photo by BLIGHT of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=578083)) \\
-The filter adapter is 5/"x24. However, you can buy adapters online to increase the adapter size to 13/16" or 3/4". \\
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_and_cooler_by_blight.jpg?direct&250|}}|
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-This reportedly an old drag specialties item from the early eighty's. ((hasselme0 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) ((photos by 78ironhead of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1078240&page=3)) \\
-It uses the older felt type filters made for early shovels and is a cooler/filter all in one. \\
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_2_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_4_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_1_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_3_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-====== Rear mounted filters ======
-|  Custom built oil filter mount. ((photos by dm4x4 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611))  |||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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-|  Custom oil filter on 72 XLH build ((photos by Custom Oil Filter Mount 1 by gixeron1wheel of the XLFORUM
-http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1286445&page=3))  ||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_gixeron1wheel.jpg?direct&250|}}|
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-|  Custom oil filter mount on an 81 XLH ((photos by teledude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=2))  |||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|As mounted ((photo by teldude66 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=974924&page=5))|
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_4_by_teledude66.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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-|  'Out of Tank' filter mount ((photo by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))  |
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_4_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|Filter mounted onto oil tank. The return oil goes through a loop inside of tank, back out through filter and returns through center of filter. ((photos by DBH of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1002001&page=5))|||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_1_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_2_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:out_of_tank_oil_filter_3_by_dbh.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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