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| ====== Why Use an Oil Cooler? ====== | ====== Why Use an Oil Cooler? ====== | ||
| - | One thing to remember is the temp reading at the oil tank and the actual highest oil temp in the engine are not the same things. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=611969&page=9)) \\ | + | One thing to remember is the temp reading at the oil tank and the actual highest oil temp in the engine are not the same things. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/82462-what-use-is-an-oil-cooler/page9?t=611969&page=9)) \\ |
| It depends where the reading is taken. \\ | It depends where the reading is taken. \\ | ||
| - | Oil coolers may not be needed in cooler climate. The engine is not only air cooled, it is also oil cooled. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=611969&page=9)) \\ | + | Oil coolers may not be needed in cooler climate. The engine is not only air cooled, it is also oil cooled. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/82462-what-use-is-an-oil-cooler/page9?t=611969&page=9)) \\ |
| The oil circulation carries a lot of the internal engine heat away. Engines are built to run certain specs. \\ | The oil circulation carries a lot of the internal engine heat away. Engines are built to run certain specs. \\ | ||
| Operating temperature has an effect on the specs due to heat expansion of the metal. \\ | Operating temperature has an effect on the specs due to heat expansion of the metal. \\ | ||
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| It will also slow the oil breakdown. \\ | It will also slow the oil breakdown. \\ | ||
| - | People argue either way on the benefit of an oil cooler. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=611969&page=9)) However, the reasoning for using an cooler ranges from: \\ | + | People argue either way on the benefit of an oil cooler. ((Graywolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/82462-what-use-is-an-oil-cooler/page9?t=611969&page=9)) However, the reasoning for using an cooler ranges from: \\ |
| Larger oil capacity, lower oil temp and better engine cooling in summer (especially in high temp climates). \\ | Larger oil capacity, lower oil temp and better engine cooling in summer (especially in high temp climates). \\ | ||
| You will have to make your own decision on when to use an oil cooler. \\ | You will have to make your own decision on when to use an oil cooler. \\ | ||
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| All oil coolers and lines are plumbed in the part of the oil flow loop that returns engine oil to the oil tank. \\ | All oil coolers and lines are plumbed in the part of the oil flow loop that returns engine oil to the oil tank. \\ | ||
| Do not pull hoses too tight or oil flow restrictions can occur. \\ | Do not pull hoses too tight or oil flow restrictions can occur. \\ | ||
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| + | ====== Oil Coolers on Ironheads ====== | ||
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| + | | 83 model. ((photo by 83XLX of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/146604-first-harley-1975-xl1000-caf%C3%A9-project/page22?page=22&t=1592463)) | 77 XLCH ((photo by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/50355-and-yet-another-77-ground-up-rebuild/page10?t=209347&page=10)) | | ||
| + | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_on_83_model_by_83xlx.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_line_routing_5_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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| + | ===== HD Oil Cooler (62497-82) ===== | ||
| + | Vertical mount oil cooler sold for 1982-later Sportsters. Superseded by part# (62497-82A). \\ | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:1982-up_sportster_hd_oil_cooler_62497-82_pic1_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrsvintageharley1990. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:1982-up_sportster_hd_oil_cooler_62497-82_pic2_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrsvintageharley1990. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | ||
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| + | ===== Lockhart Oil Cooler ===== | ||
| + | The model below has a built-in thermostat bypass. \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:lockhart_oil_cooler_with_built-in_thermostat_bypass_pic1_by_tomscybershop.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of TomsCyberShop.com www.TomsCyberShop.com)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:lockhart_oil_cooler_with_built-in_thermostat_bypass_pic2_by_tomscybershop.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of TomsCyberShop.com www.TomsCyberShop.com)){{:techtalk:ref:oil:lockhart_oil_cooler_with_built-in_thermostat_bypass_pic3_by_tomscybershop.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of TomsCyberShop.com www.TomsCyberShop.com)) \\ | ||
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| + | ===== Thermostat Bypass Valve ===== | ||
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| + | Some oil coolers have a built in thermostat to divert cooler oil from going thru the oil cooler. \\ | ||
| + | However, external thermostat bypass valves were sold for Sportsters starting in 1979: Chrome (26248-78) and Black (26251-78). \\ | ||
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| + | Below are thermostat valves sold for 79-up Sportsters (also used on FX models, maybe others). \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_thermostat_kit_pic1_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_thermostat_kit_pic2_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_thermostat_kit_pic3_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_thermostat_kit_pic4_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_thermostat_kit_pic1_by_cyclewarehouse.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, Cycle Warehouse. [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/cyclewarehouse/m.html?item=353541444272&hash=item5250b652b0%3Ag%3AVCcAAOSwclRgz4iv&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562|Link to Items for Sale Page]] )) \\ | ||
| ===== Hose Routing ===== | ===== Hose Routing ===== | ||
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| ===== Pics of Hose Routing on a 1978 XLH ====== | ===== Pics of Hose Routing on a 1978 XLH ====== | ||
| - | Photos by IronMick of the XLFORUM ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=920306)) \\ | + | Photos by IronMick of the XLFORUM ((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/104294-oil-line-routing?t=920306)) \\ |
| - The return line here is coming out of the front of the pump, going up to the cooler, then back along the frame. | - The return line here is coming out of the front of the pump, going up to the cooler, then back along the frame. | ||
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| - | ===== Various Pics of Oil Coolers on IHs ===== | + | ====== Oil Coolers on Evos ====== |
| - | | 83 model. ((photo by 83XLX of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) | 77 XLCH ((photo by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=209347&page=10)) | | + | ===== HD Oil Cooler (62996-07A) on 2004 1200C ===== |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_on_83_model_by_83xlx.jpg?direct&200|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_line_routing_5_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | Note: if you have a "Custom" or forward controls you will need to remove the right side to gain access to the oil hose from the pump: ((pics by 04xl1200c of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/128917-oil-cooler-p0rn?t=1341854)) \\ |
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| - | ===== Lockhart Oil Cooler ===== | + | |
| - | The model below has a built-in thermostat bypass. \\ | + | |
| - | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:lockhart_oil_cooler_with_built-in_thermostat_bypass_pic1_by_tomscybershop.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of TomsCyberShop.com www.TomsCyberShop.com)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:lockhart_oil_cooler_with_built-in_thermostat_bypass_pic2_by_tomscybershop.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of TomsCyberShop.com www.TomsCyberShop.com)){{:techtalk:ref:oil:lockhart_oil_cooler_with_built-in_thermostat_bypass_pic3_by_tomscybershop.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of TomsCyberShop.com www.TomsCyberShop.com)) \\ | + | |
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| - | ===== Thermostat Bypass Valve ===== | + | |
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| - | Some oil coolers have a built in thermostat to divert cooler oil from going thru the oil cooler. \\ | + | |
| - | Below is a thermostat bypass valve (26248-78) used on 1977-up FX models. \\ | + | |
| - | Some have used it on Sportsters as well. \\ | + | |
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| - | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_thermostat_kit_pic1_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_thermostat_kit_pic2_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | + | |
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| - | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_thermostat_kit_pic3_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_cooler_thermostat_kit_pic4_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | + | |
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| - | ====== Evo ====== | + | |
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| - | ===== HD Oil Cooler (62996-07A) ===== | + | |
| - | Note: if you have a "Custom" or forward controls you will need to remove the right side to gain access to the oil hose from the pump: ((pics by 04xl1200c of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1341854)) \\ | + | |
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| ===== Jagg Oil Cooler ===== | ===== Jagg Oil Cooler ===== | ||
| - | Jagg's original "Deluxe Oil Cooler System" was first designed with Harley Davidson motorcycles in mind. ((https://jagg.com/collections/harley-davidson-sportster/products/deluxe-hd)) \\ | + | Jagg has several oil coolers to choose from including a chrome version, slimline, a deluxe with diamond cut fins and a wideline cooler. \\ |
| + | They also offer a fan assisted cooler. \\ | ||
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| + | * Jagg's original "Deluxe Oil Cooler System" was first designed with Harley Davidson motorcycles in mind. ((https://jagg.com/collections/harley-davidson-sportster/products/deluxe-hd)) \\ | ||
| (perimeter, vertical frame tubes) | (perimeter, vertical frame tubes) | ||
| + | * The cooler mounts to the left frame down-tube, spaced away from the frame to allow airflow to both the oil cooler and the engine. | ||
| + | * It's mounted to the frame using Uralite mounts which have a shock-absorbing effect. | ||
| + | * It's a six-tube, two-pass design. | ||
| + | * In-line turbulators add to the cooler's efficiency with minimal oil pressure loss or restriction. | ||
| + | * Aluminum construction with durable powder coated finish. | ||
| + | * Billet aluminum end caps with machined fins to match and complement the style of the engine's cooling fins. | ||
| - | * The cooler mounts to the left frame down-tube, spaced away from the frame to allow airflow to both the oil cooler and the engine. | + | Jagg Slimline Oil Cooler: \\ |
| - | * It's mounted to the frame using Uralite mounts which have a shock-absorbing effect. | + | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:jagg_slimline_oil_cooler_pic1_by_tomscybershop.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of TomsCybershop www.TomsCyberShop.com)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:jagg_slimline_oil_cooler_pic2_by_tomscybershop.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of TomsCybershop www.TomsCyberShop.com)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:jagg_slimline_oil_cooler_pic3_by_tomscybershop.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of TomsCybershop www.TomsCyberShop.com)) \\ |
| - | * It's a six-tube, two-pass design. | + | |
| - | * In-line turbulators add to the cooler's efficiency with minimal oil pressure loss or restriction. | + | |
| - | * Aluminum construction with durable powder coated finish. | + | |
| - | * Billet aluminum end caps with machined fins to match and complement the style of the engine's cooling fins. | + | |
| - | Jagg has several oil coolers to choose from including a chrome version, slimline, a deluxe with diamond cut fins and a wideline cooler. \\ | + | | Jagg Slimline oil cooler installed ((photos by Graywolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/82462-what-use-is-an-oil-cooler/page9?t=611969&page=9)) || |
| - | They also offer a fan assisted cooler. \\ | + | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:jagg_oil_cooler_1_by_graywolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:jagg_oil_cooler_2_by_graywolf.jpg?direct&300|}}| |
| ==== Oil Filter Adapter ==== | ==== Oil Filter Adapter ==== | ||
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| * Flows oil through the filter first, for better flow | * Flows oil through the filter first, for better flow | ||
| - | + | | Fittings mounted down wouldn't work ((photo by WVDevil of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/lubrication-and-lubricants/177057-jagg-oil-cooler-install-problem?t=1901105)) | | |
| - | | Fittings mounted down wouldn't work ((photo by WVDevil of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1901105)) | | + | |
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| - | | Jagg oil cooler with filter adapter ((photos by kilroykarr of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=403064)) || | + | | Jagg oil cooler with filter adapter ((photos by kilroykarr of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/64404-jagg-oil-cooler-wtf-thought-it-was-easy?t=403064)) || |
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| - | | Jagg Slimline oil cooler installed ((photos by Graywolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=611969&page=9)) || | ||
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