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 ====== Running Copper Oil Lines ====== ====== Running Copper Oil Lines ======
  
-|  Copper oil lines ((photos by zman69 of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=29406)) ​ ||  Copper behind the chain ((photo by Jtrapass of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=360592&​page=2)) ​ |+|  Copper oil lines ((photos by zman69 of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​17654-new-copper-lines-and-pressure-gauge?​t=29406)) ​ ||  Copper behind the chain ((photo by Jtrapass of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​61566-i-need-your-help-iron-head-folks/​page2?​t=360592&​page=2)) ​ |
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-|  Copper oil and gas lines ((photos by calabeast of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=719598)) ​ ||+|  Copper oil and gas lines ((photos by calabeast of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-styles/​chopper-bobber-talk/​89536-bobber-progress?​t=719598)) ​ ||
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-===== Copper Lines for Ext Filter (75 XL) ===== 
  
-Article by sifty of the XLFORUM ((http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=1592463&​page=30)) \\+===== Copper Lines for Ext Filter (75 XL) ===== 
 +Article by sifty of the XLFORUM ((https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​146604-first-harley-1975-xl1000-caf%C3%A9-project/​page30?​t=1592463&​page=30)) \\
  
 The oil return fitting is on top of the case beside the vent, not in front of the pump. \\ The oil return fitting is on top of the case beside the vent, not in front of the pump. \\
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   - The ends were double flared for strength and a solid connection to the flexible hose sections. \\ This is the first pass on the flaring tool.    - The ends were double flared for strength and a solid connection to the flexible hose sections. \\ This is the first pass on the flaring tool. 
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 +====== Make Your Own Custom Oil Pump Hose  ======
 +
 +===== For 91-03 Sportsters =====
 +
 +  * For roughly around $20, you can make (or have made) the hose from the oil pump to the filter housing. \\ You'll have to find a shop that has the proper equipment to make the crimp.
 +  * **Parts include**:
 +
 +|(1) - Parker 43 Series \\ (10143-2-4)|1/​8"​x27 male NPTF rigid crimp fitting for 1/4" hose (Overall length - 1.80" / 46mm) ((https://​www.hoseandfittingsetc.com/​product/​fittings/​hose-fittings/​parker-43-series/​43-series-nptf-pipe-fittings))|
 +|(1) - Parker 43 Series \\ (10643-5-4)|5/​16"​ (1/​2"​x20 threads) female JIC 37° (straight) swivel crimp fitting for 1/4" hose (Overall length - 2.03" \ 52mm) ((https://​www.hoseandfittingsetc.com/​product/​fittings/​hose-fittings/​parker-43-series/​43-series-jic-fittings))|
 +|(App. 6") length - Parker \\ (471TC-4-RL)|1/​4"​ / 6.4mm hydraulic hose ((https://​www.parker.com/​literature/​Hose%20Products%20Division/​4480_B51.pdf)) 2-wire braided synthetic rubber hydraulic hose. \\ Approved for 43 Series fittings, Min bend radius (2" \ 50 mm), ID (1/4" / 6.3mm), OD (0.51" / 13mm) \\ Rated pressure (5800 psi \ 40.0 MPa), ratings (USCG HF / DNV / ABS / MSHA Accepted) \\ Working oil temp (-40 to +212°F / -40 to +100°C), Weight (.2 lbs/ft / .3 kg/m ((https://​www.mrostop.com/​471tc-4-rl-parker-tough-cover-hydraulic-hose-1-4-in-5800-psi.html)) ((https://​www.parker.com/​literature/​Hose%20Products%20Division/​4480_B51.pdf))|
 +
 +Click on a pic to enlarge:
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 +|  Custom oil pump hose made with Parker Hannifin fittings and hose ((photos courtesy of LenC of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​192750-oil-line-replacement/​page4?​t=2064612&​page=4)) ​ ||
 +
 +    * **Notes**:
 +      * Stainless steel fittings must be assembled with a Karrykrimp 2, PHastkrimp, Superkrimp or Parkrimp 2 crimper per the manufacturer. These are very expensive tools thus finding a shop that is properly equipped is essential. ((https://​www.hoseandfittingsetc.com/​product/​fittings/​hose-fittings/​parker-43-series/​43-series-jic-fittings))
 +
 +====== Aftermarket Hoses ======
 +
 +===== IRONMACHINE Prefabbed Hoses =====
 +These hoses are made in the USA by IronMachine. [[https://​www.ironmachine.com/​c95-02-buell-tube-frame-91-03-xl1200-xl883-ironmachine-oil-pump-line-hose-a62631-91-copy|Link to their website add]] \\
 +Hose below replaces HD (62631-91) from the oil pump feed to the oil filter on all 1991-2003 Sportster 883/1200s and 1995-2002 BUELL tube frame models. \\
 +Working pressure is 225 PSI. Overall length is 8.75". It also comes with a lifetime warranty. \\
 +
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_feed_hose_91-03_ironmachine_pic1_by_cyclone14.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Cyclone14 of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/​202286-high-pressure-oil-line-pump-to-filter?​highlight=sportsterpedia#​post4504231)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_feed_hose_91-03_ironmachine_pic2_by_cyclone14.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Cyclone14 of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/​202286-high-pressure-oil-line-pump-to-filter?​highlight=sportsterpedia#​post4504231)) \\
 +
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_feed_hose_91-03_ironmachine_pic3_by_cyclone14.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Cyclone14 of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/​202286-high-pressure-oil-line-pump-to-filter?​highlight=sportsterpedia#​post4504231)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_feed_hose_91-03_ironmachine_pic4_by_cyclone14.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Cyclone14 of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/​202286-high-pressure-oil-line-pump-to-filter?​highlight=sportsterpedia#​post4504231)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​oil_feed_hose_91-03_ironmachine_pic5_by_cyclone14.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Cyclone14 of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/​202286-high-pressure-oil-line-pump-to-filter?​highlight=sportsterpedia#​post4504231)) \\
 +
 +===== Goodridge Oil Line Kits =====
 +This a Goodridge oil line for Sportsters sold in many places in Europe. \\
 +This hose (complete) is reportedly not being assembled anymore by the company but can still be found online. \\
 +The individual parts are also available as a "Built a Hose" kit and you can you buy the parts separately and put them together yourself. \\
 +That way you can cut it to the length you want / need (good for custom applications). \\
 +The individual parts can be purchased online as well as in this link to [[https://​www.motorcyclestorehouse.com/​online-catalogs/​Volume14/​1635/​index.html#​zoom=z|Motorcycle StoreHouse.com]] \\
 +You can buy an installation tool but it it's not absolutely necessary per the manufacturer. \\
 +You can also find Goodridge braided hoses online (5/​16",​ 1/4" and 3/8") thru companies that ship to the US like these at  [[https://​www.denniskirk.com/​search/​goodridge+braided.q|Dennis Kirk.com]]. \\
 +The 210 series is PTFE lined whereas the 202 series is neoprene lined. \\
 +Goodridge also makes hoses for brake line applications. \\
 +
 +The part numbers will vary depending on where you buy them from. \\
 +Dennis Kirk's part numbers for fittings are: \\
 +49-7974 (45 degree) \\
 +49-7975 (90 degree) \\
 +497976 (straight) \\
 +And fittings: \\
 +49-7977 (straight 1/4 in. NPT) \\
 +49-7978 (straight 1/8 in. NPT) \\
 +The Goodridge parts numbers for fittings are listed at the Motorcycle StoreHouse link above. \\
 +There is a greater number of size and fitting information there. \\
 +
 +Goodridge (complete hose) part number: \\
 +(921859) 86-90 Sportsters \\
 +(921862) 91-03 Sportsters (oil pump to oil filter pad) \\
 +
 +Construction:​ It has PTFE inner tubing compatible with all fluids inside a stainless steel braid (14mm OD) with chrome plated steel fittings (reusable). \\
 +Specs: Burst pressure - 690 bar (10,008 psi), Working temp (-70°C to +260°C) (-94°F to 500°F) \\
 +
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​oil:​goodridge_oil_line_-_921862_by_nlxl.jpg?​direct&​400|}} ((photo by NLXL of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/​198792-oil-feed-line-between-pump-and-filter/​page2?​t=2075639&​page=2)) \\
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