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IH: Body Parts - Sub-01W

Ironhead Frame Identification

Note: For more specifics on K models , search the Harley K Model site.
You can also download a PDF of their frame and casting specific information by clicking the link HERE.
General K Model information is listed below for differentiating those from XL Sportster frames.


Many first generation changes to these frames were reproduced but not used on future frame versions.
The purpose was to be able to replace older frames with the newer versions.
Click Here for the main Ironhead frame page with part number interchangeability.

This page is more for visual differences in frames. See the year model information in the sub docs below for more specific pics and information.

Backbone

Top Center Motor Mount

The easiest way to tell if you have a K or KH (52-56) and not a Sportster frame at a glance is to look at the top motor mount bracket, also called the “engine steady.” 1)

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Backbone Profile

See pics above also for 79-85.

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Neck

Neck Profile

On pre-73 Sportsters notedly XLH, the hole up front on the right side of the tube is for the wiring bundle from the forks to run into. 12)
The wiring runs through the frame backbone and exits at the mid point for the switch wiring.
Then the remainder of the wires exit at the tail end of the tube, going to the battery, relays and etc.
The entire top tube was hollow for the length of it on all frames through 1972.

Then in 1973, the frame changed and this tube hole was mostly closed off (although a smaller hole is reportedly on the rear tube area on some 73-78 frames).
The factory got rid of the casting and welded a U-shaped metal plate over the end of the top tube to attach the rear shocks on 73> models.
You may find post 72 necks / frame tubes with (owner drilled) holes to retro the main wiring through the backbone to clean up the look.

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Neck Casting Numbers 1957-1969

Neck Casting Numbers:

Click on a pic to enlarge:

Found on K Model, Casting -52 18)
Notice the different gas tank mount hole to number positions and webbing height between XLH and XLCH. (Note: extra hole on orange frame below owner induced).
Painted surfaces can sometimes skew the numbers to look differently.
Found on 67-69 XLH, Casting (-56) 19)Found on 67-69 XLCH, Casting (-56) 20)Found on 67-69 XLCH, Casting (-56) 21)

Frame VIN Numbers

Click Here to reference Motor and VIN numbers in the Sportsterpedia.

Seat Casting \ Brackets

Seat (front) Bracket

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Coil / Regulator Mount Casting 65-66 XLH, 65 XLCH

Earliest known appearance according to the K Model site is April of 1964. Present through 1966 on XLH and may be through 1969 on XLCH.
Later models may have still had this casting but reportedly the holes were not threaded since newer models didn't use them.
Even though the casting began to appear on frames in late 1964 in anticipation of the new mounting locations;
The regulator wasn't mounted there until the 1965 model year when the switch was made to the 12v system. 29)

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Seat Casting Larger Webbing (right side)

1957-1966 XL, XLH 1958-1969 XLC, XLCH
Seat cast webbing (XLCH shown) 31)
1967-1969 XLH seat cast webbing
w/ extra “wing” on right side. 32)
1971 XLCH (w/ Buddy Seat) key switch and coil locations. 33) 1972 “low” version seat casting wing. 34)

Oil Tank Bracket (XLCH)

1966-1969 XLCH frames have the “Lunchbox” oil tank bracket under the seat casting.

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Seat Casting Date Code (1957-1972)

Seat casting date codes were introduced sometime in the K Model years.
According to Harley K Model site, 1952 K model frames don't have date codes, and only the last few months of 1953 had them.
So roughly in L1953 is when date codes first appeared.
The date code reflects when the frame was made, not when the bike was assembled. 36) Therefore it is yet just another tool to distinguish between year models.

1970-1972 (and possibly later frames) still have date stamping numbers but they are not normally used to distinguish the year of the frame.
A VIN number is stamped into the neck and that is what determines the year model in the legal sense.
Of course when mods have been done to them, further discover will have to be done.

1957-1969 models DO NOT have VIN numbers. So to chase down the year model of the frame, several methods of deducing must be done.
Generally, on the seat casting ear for the gas tank mount on the right hand side, you'll see a letter and digit.
Sometimes the code is stamped (letter/digit or digit/letter). The letter is the month, the digit is the year.

However, this is not the only number that matters for dating the frame.
You can distinguish the 57-59 frames from the 67-69 by the seat castings, which are quite different.
Each frame would have uniquely identifiable features also. 37)
Harley switched production over to the new model year in late summer. So a frame manufactured in November of 1953 would have been used on a 1954 K Model.
The 1954's were already showing up in dealerships by November of '53 and etc.

The date code may not precisely ID the whole frame but it's a tool as are other ID methods described on this page.
The year certain models were introduced for instance;
1957 XL only model produced that year.
1958 XL, XLH, XLC and XLCH were the street bikes produced.
1959 XL, XLH and XLCH were the only street bikes produced.

1957-1972 Seat Casting Date Code - Month and Year
AJanuaryGJuly01960 or 197061966
BFebruaryHAugust11961 or 197171957 or 1967
CMarchISeptember21962 or 197281958 or 1968
DAprilJOctober3196391959 or 1969
EMayKNovember41964
FJuneLDecember51965


Seat Posts

Attachments to XL, XLH Seat Posts:

Attachments to XLC, XLCH Seat Posts:

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Straight or Doglegged Posts:

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Rear Motor Mount (forgings)

These are forged rear engine mounts at the bottom of the frame, also known as “Tomahawks” used from 57-81.
There are casting numbers below the swingarm pivot. The same tomahawks were used on several different year and model Sportsters.
Below are numbers per year/model Sportsters (more information is need).

Year/ModelNumber Below Right
Swingarm Pivot
Number Above
Right Swingarm Pivot
Number Below Left
Swingarm Pivot
Number Above
Left Swingarm Pivot
1965-1966 XLH
1967-1969 XLCH
47650-52PA
(P above dash)
(A below dash)
47652-52PA
(PA below dash)
1967-1980 XLH47650-671047652-67
1977 XR-750 48)47650-6714
1980 XR-750 49)47650-67 47652-67
Early model tomahawks (47652-52 PA, right) (47652-52 PA, left) 50)
Found on 1967-1969 XLH frame. 51)Found on XRTT frame 52)
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Lower Frame Tubes

Divots in Tubes

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Jiffy Stand Mounts

Around mid 1967, the jiffy stand bracket was reinforced with additional welding to the peg mount.
1957-E1967 frames do not have the extra reinforcement welding.
1977-up frames do not have foot peg mounts. 77-up footpegs mount from studs bolted into the engine case.

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