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techtalk:ih:engctl01b [2022/03/30 04:35]
hippysmack [Mounting Adapters]
techtalk:ih:engctl01b [2022/03/31 02:28]
hippysmack [Bearing and Support Housing]
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   * B): a square section rubber ring that gets installed into the cam cover bore. . \\ An O-ring & washer installs between the top of the mount plate & the bottom of the mag (washer to mag & O-ring to plate). \\   * B): a square section rubber ring that gets installed into the cam cover bore. . \\ An O-ring & washer installs between the top of the mount plate & the bottom of the mag (washer to mag & O-ring to plate). \\
   * C): a real oil seal that gets installed into the cam cover bore under the mount plate. \\   * C): a real oil seal that gets installed into the cam cover bore under the mount plate. \\
 +
 +**Cam Cover to Adapter Gasket**: \\
 +1958-E1965 adapters use gasket (32522-37). ((DR Dick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1637862&​page=4)) \\
 +The parts catalogs say the gasket was available for 1958-1969 XLCH. \\
 +However, gaskets are known to lose their structural integrity (used on movable mount systems) resulting in the hub working loose from the cover. \\
 +HD got away from the gasket in mid 1965 for this reason. \\
 +So L1965-1969 setups don't use a gasket. \\
 +A bike with no seals barely leaks because the mag drive gears don't get very much oil. \\
 +The oil they do get is "​splash"​ oil. A very small amount of oil gets to drive gears by oil passing thru #2 cam bushing. \\
  
 **Screw and Washers**: \\ **Screw and Washers**: \\
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 Uses #12-24 x 15/32" countersunk flat slot head screws (1865W) to hold plate to cam cover. \\ Uses #12-24 x 15/32" countersunk flat slot head screws (1865W) to hold plate to cam cover. \\
  
-**Fixed Position ​Magnetos**: \\+**Fixed Position ​Magneto Adapters**: \\
 **1958-E1962**:​ \\ **1958-E1962**:​ \\
 Used with magneto (29504-48A). \\ Used with magneto (29504-48A). \\
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 Uses tach drive mag and SEAL STYLE A. Uses gasket between the mount plate and cover surface. \\ Uses tach drive mag and SEAL STYLE A. Uses gasket between the mount plate and cover surface. \\
  
-**Adjustable ​Magnetos**: \\+**Adjustable ​Magneto Adapters**: \\ 
 +A lot of parts got modified by owners over the years so you could have something that don't match the descriptions below. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1130489)) \\ 
 +These are the basics to the OEM moveable mount hubs: \\ 
 +Plain hub (no counterbore or slot) = E1965 \\ 
 +Counterbored (only) = L1965-E1967 \\ 
 +Counterbored and slotted = L1967-E1968 \\ 
 +Slotted (only) = L1968-1969 ​\\
  
 **E1965**: \\ **E1965**: \\
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-L1968-1969 Upper Magneto Adapter (29600-65C) came with oil seal: ((photos courtesy of Ebay seller, jrsvintageharley1990. [[https://​www.ebay.com/​str/​jrsvintageharleyparts?​_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ +L1968-1969 Upper Magneto Adapter (29600-65C) came with oil seal: ((photos courtesy of Ebay seller, jrsvintageharley1990. [[https://​www.ebay.com/​str/​jrsvintageharleyparts?​_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] ​)), 1965-1969 Lower Adapter to the right ((photo courtesy of TomsCyberShop.com www.TomsCyberShop.com)) \\ 
-{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​1968l-1969_upper_magneto_adapter_plate_and_oil_seal_29600-65c_by_jrsvintageharley1990_pic1.jpg?​direct&​300|}} {{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​1968l-1969_upper_magneto_adapter_plate_and_oil_seal_29600-65c_by_jrsvintageharley1990_pic2.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ​ \\+{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​1968l-1969_upper_magneto_adapter_plate_and_oil_seal_29600-65c_by_jrsvintageharley1990_pic1.jpg?​direct&​300|}} {{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​1968l-1969_upper_magneto_adapter_plate_and_oil_seal_29600-65c_by_jrsvintageharley1990_pic2.jpg?​direct&​300|}}  ​{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​1965-1969_magneto_lower_mounting_adapter_by_toms_cyber_shop.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ​\\
  
 +====== Bearing and Support Housing ======
 +From 1958-1969, these parts had the same part number but the bearing support was factory modded several times. \\
 +Bearing support (29561-55) \\
 +Rotor cam end (upper) bearing (29562-59) \\
 +Rotor shaft end (lower) bearing (29563-59) \\
 +
 +Upper bearing plate differences provided by Dr Dick ((http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1062720&​page=26)) \\
 +{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​1957-1969_magneto_bearing_supports_by_dr_dick.jpg?​direct&​400|}} \\
  
 ====== Keyed Mags ====== ====== Keyed Mags ======
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 +====== Various Documentation ======
 +**Instructions for the Joe Hunt Early Sportster Magneto**: \\
 +Click on a pic to enlarge: ((photos from this post from Chevelle of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1391033)) \\
 +{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​ins-magneto-joe_hunt_early_sportster_pic1.jpg?​direct&​400|}} {{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​ins-magneto-joe_hunt_early_sportster_pic2.jpg?​direct&​400|}} \\
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 +{{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​ins-magneto-joe_hunt_early_sportster_pic3.jpg?​direct&​400|}} {{:​techtalk:​ih:​engctl:​ins-magneto-joe_hunt_early_sportster_pic4.jpg?​direct&​400|}} \\
 +
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 +----
 +
 +====== Related Links ======
 +….[[https://​morrismagneto.com/​|Link to Morris Magneto.com]]
  
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