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+techtalk:ih:oil03e [2024/01/01 18:40] (current)
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     * Disconnect the oil lines and oil pressure switch wire.
     * Remove the four mounting bolts and the pump should drop down.
     * There is a flat spot on the frame just under the pump. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM httphttps://www.xlforum.net/forumsforum/showthread.phpsportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/77330-oil-pump-1977-up?t=554323))
     * The complete pump assembly comes out as a unit.
       * It´s not possible to take only the cover out because of the of limited space between the cover and frame. ((acb2 of the XLFORUM httphttps://www.xlforum.net/forumsforum/showthread.phpsportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/77330-oil-pump-1977-up?t=554323)) 
     * Its a tight squeeze but you can wriggle the pump out. ((russzx6 of the XLFORUM httphttps://www.xlforum.net/forumsforum/showthread.phpsportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/77330-oil-pump-1977-up?t=554323))
 
 ===== Pump Stuck to Engine Case =====
 The FSM says to apply gasket sealer to the gasket before installation. \\
 There are also times when a gasket could not be found, so RTV or other sealers were used in addition to or instead of a gasket. ((Farmer00-1 of the XLFORUM httphttps://www.xlforum.net/forumsforum/showthread.phpsportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/77330-oil-pump-1977-up?t=554323)) \\
 Therefore, expect that to make it more difficult to remove the pump from the engine. \\
 
     * First, be patient with it.
       * Try to turn the motor over by hand. It may push the pump out. ((Jason's Sporty of the XLFORUM httphttps://www.xlforum.net/forumsforum/showthread.phpsportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/194711-86-883-xlh-oil-pump?t=2071005&highlight=oil+pump))
       * Try a rubber mallet.
         * Gently tap down on the pump's rear side so you're not forcing extra pressure against the drive gear on the pinion shaft.
       * Try a short piece of 2x4 to gently tap on the pump.
       * Try using a crowbar with a "catspaw" on the rear side of the pump. 
         * It's a wood working tool for pulling nails. ((123456qwerty of the XLFORUM httphttps://www.xlforum.net/forumsforum/showthread.phpsportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/194711-86-883-xlh-oil-pump?t=2071005&highlight=oil+pump))
 
 ===== Gasket Removal =====
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 Below PB Blaster was used with an auto window scraper. ((photos by Hippysmack)) \\
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 ===== Stuck Cover Gasket =====
 The spring washer inside the pump puts a lot of tension against the cover. \\
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     * However, a 24 hour soak will help to soften the gasket / sealer and make it easier to break free.
 
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 This oil pump had to be soaked overnite before the cover would separate from the body. \\
 
 |  Cleaning and soaking gaskets for more easy removal ((photos by Hippysmack httphttps://www.xlforum.net/forumsforum/showthread.phpsportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/194881-let-s-study-the-77-85-oil-pump-parts-and-changes-and-when/page4?t=2071153&page=4))  ||
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 ====== Disassembly ======
 Wiggle the cover off and the feed gerotors are exposed. 
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   * The outer plate is held in place by a solid pin in the gearshaft. \\
     * It's a loose fit in the hole in the gearshaft and it's held in place by tension of the spring washer between the plates.
 
 
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