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| ====== Turn Signals ====== | ====== Turn Signals ====== | ||
| - | Here's a chart of alternative bulbs that can be used in place of 1157 Run/Turn or Run/Brake bulbs:\\ | + | Here's a chart of alternative incandescent bulbs that can be used in place of 1157 Run/Turn or Run/Brake bulbs:\\ |
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| ====== LED Lighting ====== | ====== LED Lighting ====== | ||
| - | ===== Sub Documents ===== | ||
| - | * [[techtalk:ref:elec03t|LED VOES Indicator Light Install]] | ||
| - | LEDs are not only highly shock resistant but they have a very long lifetime and can be made quite bright (and in many different colors). ((Scooter_Trash of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077)) \\ | + | |
| + | LEDs are not only highly shock resistant but they have a very long lifetime and can be made quite bright (and in many different colors). ((Scooter_Trash of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/49907-a-led-turn-signals-load-balancer-how-to?t=205077)) \\ | ||
| ===== Converting to LED Turn Signals ===== | ===== Converting to LED Turn Signals ===== | ||
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| **Choosing a resister**: \\ | **Choosing a resister**: \\ | ||
| - | It's important to understand that each incandescent bulb runs 24w when it flashes. ((IXL2Relax of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5396701#post5396701)) \\ | + | It's important to understand that each incandescent bulb runs 24w when it flashes. ((IXL2Relax of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/49907-a-led-turn-signals-load-balancer-how-to/page10#post3924654)) \\ |
| You need a 6-ohm resistor to simulate that equiv load. \\ | You need a 6-ohm resistor to simulate that equiv load. \\ | ||
| Using a resistor rated at 10-watts is definitely going to heat up when you run 24-watts of power through it. \\ | Using a resistor rated at 10-watts is definitely going to heat up when you run 24-watts of power through it. \\ | ||
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| Between 1991 and 2007, the total load that each side of the Turn Signal Module is expecting is 2 x 24w = 48w. \\ | Between 1991 and 2007, the total load that each side of the Turn Signal Module is expecting is 2 x 24w = 48w. \\ | ||
| That's what it is designed to function with when blinking the TS lights. \\ | That's what it is designed to function with when blinking the TS lights. \\ | ||
| - | The TSM is designed to expect a certain range of amps being drawn by the lights. ((Cosmo Kramer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077&page=8)) \\ | + | The TSM is designed to expect a certain range of amps being drawn by the lights. ((Cosmo Kramer of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/49907-a-led-turn-signals-load-balancer-how-to/page8?t=205077&page=8)) \\ |
| When a bulb burns out, that changes the amp draw and the TSM blinks fast (instead of not blinking at all as in older models) to notify the rider that there is an issue. \\ | When a bulb burns out, that changes the amp draw and the TSM blinks fast (instead of not blinking at all as in older models) to notify the rider that there is an issue. \\ | ||
| Prior to '91, the turn signal flasher was an automotive type with no intelligence. \\ | Prior to '91, the turn signal flasher was an automotive type with no intelligence. \\ | ||
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| So fundamentally use the right parts, install in a nice clean, protected method of connection (solder, shrink-wrap, etc). \\ | So fundamentally use the right parts, install in a nice clean, protected method of connection (solder, shrink-wrap, etc). \\ | ||
| - | | Simplified OEM turns. ((drawing by Scooter_Trash of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077, redrawn by Hippysmack)) | Resister / load balancer inline. ((drawings by Scooter_Trash of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077, redrawn by Hippysmack)) || | + | | Simplified OEM turns. ((drawing by Scooter_Trash of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/49907-a-led-turn-signals-load-balancer-how-to?t=205077, redrawn by Hippysmack)) | Resister / load balancer inline. ((drawings by Scooter_Trash of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/49907-a-led-turn-signals-load-balancer-how-to?t=205077, redrawn by Hippysmack)) || |
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| The 3-wire flashers have their own ground wire and they should require no load of any sort to function. \\ | The 3-wire flashers have their own ground wire and they should require no load of any sort to function. \\ | ||
| - | The addition of two diodes for the indicator bulb in the configuration shown below should guarantee there is no bleed from one circuit to the other. ((IXL2Relax of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5396701#post5396701)) \\ | + | The addition of two diodes for the indicator bulb in the configuration shown below should guarantee there is no bleed from one circuit to the other. ((IXL2Relax of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/49907-a-led-turn-signals-load-balancer-how-to/page10#post3924654)) \\ |
| - | | 3 wire flasher. ((photo by hawk69 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077&page=7)) | Example 86-90 model LED turn signal conversion with 3-wire LED flasher. ((drawings by IXL2Relax of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5396701#post5396701)) || | + | | 3 wire flasher. ((photo by hawk69 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/49907-a-led-turn-signals-load-balancer-how-to/page7?t=205077&page=7)) | Example 86-90 model LED turn signal conversion with 3-wire LED flasher. ((drawings by IXL2Relax of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/49907-a-led-turn-signals-load-balancer-how-to/page10#post3924654)) || |
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| - | | 2007 XL1200N ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=2)) | | + | | 2007 XL1200N ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page2?t=916453&page=2)) | |
| - | |Tools include a hacksaw, file and a drill. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453))|1/4" steel tubing, black 1/4" PVC tubing or a \\ bunch of washers can used for spacers. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453)) ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=5))| | + | |Tools include a hacksaw, file and a drill. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation?t=916453))|1/4" steel tubing, black 1/4" PVC tubing or a \\ bunch of washers can used for spacers. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation?t=916453)) ((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page5?t=916453&page=5))| |
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| - | |Template for the bracket. \\ Entire drawing should print out 2" x 2". \\ (notched to get around a small edge in the tree) ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=2))|Holes drilled in 3/4" wide bracket. \\ Left hole (tree) - 3/8". Right hole (turn) 5/16". ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453))| | + | |Template for the bracket. \\ Entire drawing should print out 2" x 2". \\ (notched to get around a small edge in the tree) ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page2?t=916453&page=2))|Holes drilled in 3/4" wide bracket. \\ Left hole (tree) - 3/8". Right hole (turn) 5/16". ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation?t=916453))| |
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| - | |Parts: (2) 5/16"x24x1-1/2" bolt, lockwashers and spacers. ((photos by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453))|| | + | |Parts: (2) 5/16"x24x1-1/2" bolt, lockwashers and spacers. ((photos by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation?t=916453))|| |
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| - | |Remove the lower tree bolt on the right side. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM, resized/cropped by Hippysmack http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=2))|Remove the rounded bolt from the signal with an \\ Allen wrench. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=2))| | + | |Remove the lower tree bolt on the right side. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM, resized/cropped by Hippysmack https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page2?t=916453&page=2))|Remove the rounded bolt from the signal with an \\ Allen wrench. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page2?t=916453&page=2))| |
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| - | |Mount the new bracket to the tree. Torque the existing bolt (#45 Torx socket head) to 30-35 ft lbs. ((photos by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=2)) ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=6))||Add a spacer on a bolt to extend the turn housing. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=2))| | + | |Mount the new bracket to the tree. Torque the existing bolt (#45 Torx socket head) to 30-35 ft lbs. ((photos by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page2?t=916453&page=2)) ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=6))||Add a spacer on a bolt to extend the turn housing. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page2?t=916453&page=2))| |
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| - | |Tighten the turn and zip tie the wires nice and neat. ((photos by vwclogan of the XLFORUM, resized/cropped by Hippysmack http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=2))||Reposition as needed and start on the other side. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=2))| | + | |Tighten the turn and zip tie the wires nice and neat. ((photos by vwclogan of the XLFORUM, resized/cropped by Hippysmack https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page2?t=916453&page=2))||Reposition as needed and start on the other side. ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page2?t=916453&page=2))| |
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| - | | After / Before \\ Stock front turns on a 2007 XL1200N ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=2)) | | + | | After / Before \\ Stock front turns on a 2007 XL1200N ((photo by vwclogan of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page2?t=916453&page=2)) | |
| ==== Alternate Bracket Material ==== | ==== Alternate Bracket Material ==== | ||
| - | | Bracket made from aluminum flat bar ((photos by Matt.loup.t of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=11)) || | + | | Bracket made from aluminum flat bar ((photos by Matt.loup.t of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page11?t=916453&page=11)) || |
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| - | |These rectangular strips were bought from a hardware store. They are size 3 (CHGO NO 3) and the holes are 1" apart (center to center). \\ You can also find stainless spacers in the correct size. Cut and shape the brackets, over drill one hole on each, paint them. ((photos by DedPyro of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=11))||| | + | |These rectangular strips were bought from a hardware store. They are size 3 (CHGO NO 3) and the holes are 1" apart (center to center). \\ You can also find stainless spacers in the correct size. Cut and shape the brackets, over drill one hole on each, paint them. ((photos by DedPyro of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page11?t=916453&page=11))||| |
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| - | |Use the original signal mounts, some flat metal stock and a bolt with the same thread as mirrors. Cut the stock to size and drill the 3/8" holes for the tree mount. ((photos by dieselbikin of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=10))||| | + | |Use the original signal mounts, some flat metal stock and a bolt with the same thread as mirrors. Cut the stock to size and drill the 3/8" holes for the tree mount. ((photos by dieselbikin of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page10?t=916453&page=10))||| |
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| - | |**Modification for 48's**. The only difference is that you need to drill two 3/8" holes in both brackets and angle the brackets from the tree \\ slightly to allow the nut to clear. The 48 turn signal has the wires running through the mounting stud rather than having them come out the back of the housing. \\ The mounting stud is the perfect length to fit the new 1" spacer and there is ample room to bolt the original nut and lock washer to the new bracket. ((photos by ccain of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=11))||| | + | |**Modification for 48's**. The only difference is that you need to drill two 3/8" holes in both brackets and angle the brackets from the tree \\ slightly to allow the nut to clear. The 48 turn signal has the wires running through the mounting stud rather than having them come out the back of the housing. \\ The mounting stud is the perfect length to fit the new 1" spacer and there is ample room to bolt the original nut and lock washer to the new bracket. ((photos by ccain of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page11?t=916453&page=11))||| |
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| - | |All thread coupling: In the first pic below, the top 2 fasteners were removed from each side and discarded; (L) 3/8" x 18 pinch bolt and (R) turn signal stud. \\ The 2-1/4" threaded rod and coupling nut replaces the pinch bolt and provides for more threads in the tree. 3/8" rods can be cut from all-thread or a 5" carriage bolt. \\ The coupling nuts are 1-3/4" long or can be cut shorter (these were cut to 7/8"). The signal stud is replaced with a 5/16" x 24 bolt with the head ground down just \\ enough to fit inside the coupling nut snugly. It is then cut so there is about 1/2" of threads to screw into the turn signal housing with a jam nut threaded on it. \\ The carriage end of the 5/16" bolt is then inserted into the coupling that has been side drilled and tapped for a #10x32 set screw to hold the signal bolt tight. \\ The tree can be torqued back properly by use of a crows foot on a socket wrench applied to the coupling. ((photos by alank of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=438111&page=2))||| | + | |All thread coupling: In the first pic below, the top 2 fasteners were removed from each side and discarded; (L) 3/8" x 18 pinch bolt and (R) turn signal stud. \\ The 2-1/4" threaded rod and coupling nut replaces the pinch bolt and provides for more threads in the tree. 3/8" rods can be cut from all-thread or a 5" carriage bolt. \\ The coupling nuts are 1-3/4" long or can be cut shorter (these were cut to 7/8"). The signal stud is replaced with a 5/16" x 24 bolt with the head ground down just \\ enough to fit inside the coupling nut snugly. It is then cut so there is about 1/2" of threads to screw into the turn signal housing with a jam nut threaded on it. \\ The carriage end of the 5/16" bolt is then inserted into the coupling that has been side drilled and tapped for a #10x32 set screw to hold the signal bolt tight. \\ The tree can be torqued back properly by use of a crows foot on a socket wrench applied to the coupling. ((photos by alank of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/66989-my-5-front-turn-signal-relocation-kit/page2?t=438111&page=2))||| |
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| **Mounted to lower trees**: | **Mounted to lower trees**: | ||
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| - | | 2012 883N ((photo by byumetalman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=10)) | 2009 XL1200N ((photo by privation of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=4)) | 2007 883L ((photo by Gillespk of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=9)) | | + | | 2012 883N ((photo by byumetalman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page10?t=916453&page=10)) | 2009 XL1200N ((photo by privation of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page4?t=916453&page=4)) | 2007 883L ((photo by Gillespk of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page9?t=916453&page=9)) | |
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| - | | 2012 XL1200X ((photo by ccain of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=11)) | 2012 XL1200C ((photo by Matt.loup.t of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=11)) | 2007 XL1200R ((photo by DedPyro of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=11)) | | + | | 2012 XL1200X ((photo by ccain of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page11?t=916453&page=11)) | 2012 XL1200C ((photo by Matt.loup.t of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page11?t=916453&page=11)) | 2007 XL1200R ((photo by DedPyro of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page11?t=916453&page=11)) | |
| **Mounted to upper trees**: | **Mounted to upper trees**: | ||
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| - | | 2000 XL1200 ((photo by dieselbikin of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=10)) | | + | | 2000 XL1200 ((photo by dieselbikin of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page10?t=916453&page=10)) | |
| ===== Front Turns on the Forks ===== | ===== Front Turns on the Forks ===== | ||
| - | |98 1200C \\ Turns mounted with electrical conduit clamps. ((photo by jacobbuelow of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453))|09 883L \\ Turns mounted with electrical conduit clamps. ((photo by rockmanbm of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=916453&page=7))| | + | |98 1200C \\ Turns mounted with electrical conduit clamps. ((photo by jacobbuelow of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation?t=916453))|09 883L \\ Turns mounted with electrical conduit clamps. ((photo by rockmanbm of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-electrical/sportster-motorcycle-lighting/103956-7-turn-signal-relocation/page7?t=916453&page=7))| |
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| Note that on some of the stock studs, the housing threads on the double-ended stud have a different pitch than the fender mounting threads. | Note that on some of the stock studs, the housing threads on the double-ended stud have a different pitch than the fender mounting threads. | ||
| - | SportyTrace suggested the following: ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072073))\\ | + | SportyTrace suggested the following: ((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/195681-need-help-rear-indicator-light-mount-loose?t=2072073))\\ |
| I ended up fabbing up a replacement longer threaded stud that could get deeper into the indicator body to use the good remaining threads. I used all-thread rod. The trick was getting a nut fixed into place on threaded rod and making the stalk the correct length. I ended up purposely messing up the threads at the fixing point and added loctite too. Worked a treat, but was a bit fiddly. Shown below: original stock one on top and home-made replacement beneath.\\ | I ended up fabbing up a replacement longer threaded stud that could get deeper into the indicator body to use the good remaining threads. I used all-thread rod. The trick was getting a nut fixed into place on threaded rod and making the stalk the correct length. I ended up purposely messing up the threads at the fixing point and added loctite too. Worked a treat, but was a bit fiddly. Shown below: original stock one on top and home-made replacement beneath.\\ | ||
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