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-====== REF: Powder Coating ======+====== REF: Custom Painting ====== 
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 +====== Painting - Powder Coating ====== 
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 +The work involved in powder coating is about 90% Prep. ((mct496 of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​149106-has-anyone-ever-seen-a-wooden-powder-coat-oven/​page2?​t=1617845&​page=2)) \\ 
 +It's good to bake parts before powder coating at a higher temp than you would powder coat at to bake the impurities out of it. \\ 
 +Also you can flash heat the parts with a propane torch to clear any moisture that may have been attracted to the cleaned part. ((simeli of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​149106-has-anyone-ever-seen-a-wooden-powder-coat-oven/​page2?​t=1617845&​page=2)) \\ 
 +And preheat any tight areas and drop the powder on the gun as you coat to make sure that it gets coverage there as well. \\ 
 + 
 +====== Ovens Used ====== 
 +You can use a gutted and steel lined upright freezer for an oven. ((flippindakgb of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​149106-has-anyone-ever-seen-a-wooden-powder-coat-oven/​page2?​t=1617845&​page=2)) \\  
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 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_in_the_oven_by_chuckthebeatertruck.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Chuckthebeatertruck of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​169628-59-xlh-refurb/​page9?​t=1820462&​page=9)) 
 + 
 +===== Homemade Cabinet Oven ===== 
 +Homemade powder coating cabinet made by XLFORUM member simeli: \\ 
 +Using 5000 watts of heater element it reaches 450° in 15 minutes. \\ 
 +<​blockquote>​I allowed it to stay hot for 45 minutes before shutting it down 2 hours later it was still 180 degrees inside the box.</​blockquote>​  
 + 
 +  * 220V, 108 sq. ft. of rock wool insulation, 33 cu.ft 
 +  * 20 gauge steel for the heat box faced with cement board 
 +  * 4 inches of space packed with 70 sq.ft. of insulation 
 +  * The door face is 20 gauge steel (as is the surroundings) with 1-1/2" of space with 30 sq.ft. of insulation packed into it.  
 +  * 1/4" gasket on the surroundings. 
 +  * Metal studs 
 + 
 +Door latches were not installed in the pics below but jack straps were used in their absence. \\ 
 +Total cost: about $497 (not counting the door latches) \\ 
 + 
 +The heat is supplied from the bottom and one side causing a natural air rotation inside the box. \\ 
 +In testing, ther was around 10 degree difference in the temp of the rails (rack supports). \\ 
 +(which is actually less than the temp rise and fall between heating cycles) \\ 
 + 
 +The only "​glue"​ that is used is 3M "​77"​. \\ 
 +(on the outside of the inner box (steel) and the inside of the outer box (plywood) which is cover with aluminum foil) \\ 
 +The gasket is attached using RTV red and was cooked out during testing. \\ 
 +The cement board is attached by pop rivets and bolts. It was also cooked out during testing. \\ 
 +The oven is also used to gas out the parts during the cleaning process, so everything is gassed out before any coating is done. \\ 
 +Flash heating with propane gets the metal hot enough so that any moisture is evaporated. \\ 
 +Also any lint or dust that may be present is burned off. \\ 
 +Powder is applied quickly after flashing or in the case of larger pieces flashing continues ahead of the powder. \\ 
 + 
 +In use is a regular household style oven controller. \\ 
 +But there are four of the internal oven thermometers that will be mounted inside. \\ 
 +Plus an external probe thermometer that goes through the door (noticed in the pictures below). \\ 
 +It should be about 30-35 minutes of actual time to watch the work and manually control. 
 + 
 +|  Homemade powder coating cabinet. ((photos by simeli of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​149106-has-anyone-ever-seen-a-wooden-powder-coat-oven?​t=1617845)) ​ |||| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​homemade_powder_coat_oven_1_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​200|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​homemade_powder_coat_oven_2_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​200|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​homemade_powder_coat_oven_3_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​200|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​homemade_powder_coat_oven_4_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​200|}}| 
 + 
 +====== Pics of Powder Coated Parts ====== 
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 + 
 +===== Frame ===== 
 +|  Prep  ((photo by simeli of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​149106-has-anyone-ever-seen-a-wooden-powder-coat-oven/​page3?​t=1617845&​page=3)) ​ | 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_1_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +|  After Pics. ((photos by simeli of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​149106-has-anyone-ever-seen-a-wooden-powder-coat-oven/​page3?​t=1617845&​page=3)) ​ ||| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_2_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_3_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_4_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_5_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_6_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_the_frame_7_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +===== Fuel Tank ===== 
 +|  Powder coated fuel tank. ((photos by simeli of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/​149106-has-anyone-ever-seen-a-wooden-powder-coat-oven/​page4?​t=1617845&​page=4)) ​  ||| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coated_fuel_tank_1_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coated_fuel_tank_2_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coated_fuel_tank_3_by_simeli.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +===== Carburetor ===== 
 +|  Before. ((photo by raptor30se of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/​sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/​60963-powder-coat-carb?​t=351161)) ​ |  Prep ((photo by raptor30se of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/​sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/​60963-powder-coat-carb?​t=351161)) ​ | 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_carb_1_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_carb_2_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +|  Individual parts powder coated and installed with the intake manifold done as well. ((photos by raptor30se of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/​sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/​60963-powder-coat-carb?​t=351161)) ​ ||| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_carb_3_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_carb_4_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​paint:​powder_coating_intake_manifold_by_raptor30se.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
  
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