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techtalk:ref:tools032 [2021/07/10 01:26]
hippysmack [REF: Thread Identification and Sizing Charts]
techtalk:ref:tools032 [2022/03/27 07:38]
hippysmack [Metric Nut/Bolt Threads]
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 ====== Measuring Threads In General ====== ====== Measuring Threads In General ======
 +**Thread TPI or Pitch**: \\
 You can purchase a cheap template with different size threads to size screws/​bolts or go by your local hardware store to use theirs. \\ You can purchase a cheap template with different size threads to size screws/​bolts or go by your local hardware store to use theirs. \\
 But you don't really need one to accurately find the size of most bolts or thread patterns. \\ But you don't really need one to accurately find the size of most bolts or thread patterns. \\
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 You can buy tap/drill and metric conversion charts pretty cheap online or at some bolt or hardware stores. \\ You can buy tap/drill and metric conversion charts pretty cheap online or at some bolt or hardware stores. \\
-Then hang them up in your shop where you can always find them when needed. \\ +Then hang them up in your shop where you can always find them when needed. \\ 
 + 
 +**Bolt/​Screw Length**: \\ 
 +Length is measured from the very end of a bolt/screw to where the fastened surface is assumed to be. \\ 
 +Panhead screws / hex bolts / cap screws etc. are measured from under the head to the end. \\ 
 +Flat head screws, tapered shanks under the head, are measured for overall end to end length (head is assumed to end flush with fastened piece). \\ 
 + 
 +|  Measuring length ((composite of photos used with permission)) ​ | 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​measuring_different_type_bolts_or_screws.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|
  
 |SAE thread gauge: ((photos by Hippysmack))||Tap/​drill and metric conversion charts.| |SAE thread gauge: ((photos by Hippysmack))||Tap/​drill and metric conversion charts.|
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 You can download full size charts from the net if needed. \\ You can download full size charts from the net if needed. \\
 These are just for quick reference. \\  These are just for quick reference. \\ 
 +
 +====== Pitch to TPI Conversion Table ======
 +
 +The table below is a reprint from THA ((https://​traininghandsacademy.com/​wp-content/​uploads/​2020/​11/​Pitch-mm-to-TPI-inches-Conversion-Table.pdf)) \\
 +
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 +|  MM per thread (Pitch) = Threads per inch (TPI)  ||||||
 +|Pitch (mm)|Pitch (in)|Treads Per Inch|Pitch (mm)|Pitch (in)|Treads Per Inch|
 +|0.2|0.0079|127.00|1.25|0.0492|20.32|
 +|0.25|0.0098|101.60|1.5|0.0591|16.93|
 +|0.3|0.0118|84.67|1.75|0.0689|14.51|
 +|0.35|0.0138|72.57|2.0|0.0787|12.70|
 +|0.4|0.0157|63.50|2.5|0.0984|10.16|
 +|0.45|0.0177|56.44|3.0|0.1181|8.47|
 +|0.5|0.0197|50.80|3.5|0.1378|7.26|
 +|0.6|0.0236|42.33|4.0|0.1575|6.35|
 +|0.7|0.0276|36.29|4.5|0.1772|5.64|
 +|0.75|0.0295|33.78|5.0|0.1969|5.08|
 +|0.8|0.0315|31.75|5.5|0.2165|4.62|
 +|1.0|0.0394|25.40|6.0|0.2362|4.23|
  
 ====== US Nut/Bolt Threads ====== ====== US Nut/Bolt Threads ======
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     * This will give you the TPI (or second number).     * This will give you the TPI (or second number).
  
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 + US Thread Pitch  |||||||||
 |Bolt (nominal) \\ Diameter|Decimal|TPI \\ (course)|TPI \\ (fine)^ ​ |Bolt (nominal) \\ Diameter|Decimal|TPI \\ (course)|TPI \\ (fine)| |Bolt (nominal) \\ Diameter|Decimal|TPI \\ (course)|TPI \\ (fine)^ ​ |Bolt (nominal) \\ Diameter|Decimal|TPI \\ (course)|TPI \\ (fine)|
 |**1/​4"​**|.25"​|20|28^ ​ |**3/​4"​**|.75"​|10|16| |**1/​4"​**|.25"​|20|28^ ​ |**3/​4"​**|.75"​|10|16|
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 The diameter is the outside diameter of the thread peaks. \\ The diameter is the outside diameter of the thread peaks. \\
  
-In this example of a 10mm bolt; M10x1.25x35 states that the diameter of the threads is 10mm, the thread pitch is 1.25mm and it's 35mm long. \\+In example of a 10mm bolt; M10x1.25x35 states that the diameter of the threads is 10mm, the thread pitch is 1.25mm and it's 35mm long. \\
  
-|  Metric Thread Pitch  |||| +^{{techtalk:​miscres:​instruction_sheet_header_4.png?​nolink&​600|}}||||| 
-|Bolt Diameter|Standard ​Thread Pitch (mm)|Fine ​Thread ​Pitch (mm)|Extra Fine Thread ​Pitch (mm)| +|  Metric Thread Pitch  ​||||| 
-|**4mm**|0.70| ​ -  |  -  | +|Thread OD \\ Metric|Thread ​OD \\ Inches (app)|Standard \\ Pitch (mm)|Fine ​\\ Pitch (mm)|Extra Fine \\ Pitch (mm)| 
-|**5mm**|0.80| ​ -  |  -  | +|**4mm**|0.157"​|0.70| ​ -  |  -  | 
-|**6mm**|1.00| ​ -  |  -  | +|**5mm**|0.197"​|0.80| ​ -  |  -  | 
-|**7mm**|1.00| ​ -  |  -  | +|**6mm**|0.236"​|1.00| ​ -  |  -  | 
-|**8mm**|1.25| ​ 1.00  |  -  | +|**7mm**|0.275"​|1.00| ​ -  |  -  | 
-|**10mm**|1.50| ​ 1.25  |  1.00  |  +|**8mm**|0.315"​|1.25| ​ 1.00  |  -  | 
-|**12mm**|1.75| ​ 1.50  |  1.25  | +|**10mm**|0.394"​|1.50| ​ 1.25  |  1.00  |  
-|**14mm**|2.00| ​ 1.50  |  -  |  +|**12mm**|0.472"​|1.75| ​ 1.50  |  1.25  | 
-|**16mm**|2.00| ​ -  |  -  | +|**14mm**|0.551"​|2.00| ​ 1.50  |  -  |  
-|**18mm**|2.50| ​ -  |  -  | +|**16mm**|0.630"​|2.00| ​ -  |  -  | 
-|**20mm**|2.50| ​ -  |  -  | +|**18mm**|0.708"​|2.50| ​ -  |  -  | 
-|**24mm**|3.00| ​ -  |  -  |+|**20mm**|0.787|2.50| ​ -  |  -  | 
 +|**24mm**|  ​|3.00| ​ -  |  -  |
  
 +**Methods of measuring in pics**: \\
 +Metric screw thread OD can be deduced by using an imperial (US) scale caliper using the chart above. \\
 +Your measurements may not be an exact match to the dims above but will be close enough to make a judgement on the metric counterpart size. \\
 +
 +{{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​measuring_metric_screw_threads_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) {{:​techtalk:​ref:​tools:​measuring_screw_pitch_by_hippysmack.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\
 ====== Common Brake Line Threads ====== ====== Common Brake Line Threads ======
 Most brake systems use flared fittings since they have strong metal to metal connections. \\ Most brake systems use flared fittings since they have strong metal to metal connections. \\
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 It will catch the first thread, making you think that it will go in, but it will destroy the threads as you tighten it. \\  It will catch the first thread, making you think that it will go in, but it will destroy the threads as you tighten it. \\ 
  
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 |  Thread Conversion Comparisons ​ ||| |  Thread Conversion Comparisons ​ |||
 |Thread Size|Metric Diameter|Metric Thread Pitch| |Thread Size|Metric Diameter|Metric Thread Pitch|
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     * The tapered thread has it's diameter reduced on a taper of .0625" per inch of thread length. Almost all hardware store fittings will be tapered thread.((DR DICK of the XLFORUM ​ http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1810036&​highlight=tap+die&​page=2))     * The tapered thread has it's diameter reduced on a taper of .0625" per inch of thread length. Almost all hardware store fittings will be tapered thread.((DR DICK of the XLFORUM ​ http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​t=1810036&​highlight=tap+die&​page=2))
  
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 |Nominal pipe \\ size (NPT) \\ (male threads)|Threads \\ per inch|Actual outside \\ diameter, (OD)|| ​ |Nominal pipe \\ size (NPT) \\ (male threads)|Threads \\ per inch|Actual outside \\ diameter, (OD)|| ​
 |:::​|:::​|Inch|MM| ​ |:::​|:::​|Inch|MM| ​
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   * You can measure male JIC threads by either using a caliper or simply laying a fitting across a tape measure. \\ Measure the OD of the threads and count the number of threads per inch to confirm with the chart below. \\ Thread OD will not exactly match the SAE thread size but will get you close enough if you have a JIC fitting.   * You can measure male JIC threads by either using a caliper or simply laying a fitting across a tape measure. \\ Measure the OD of the threads and count the number of threads per inch to confirm with the chart below. \\ Thread OD will not exactly match the SAE thread size but will get you close enough if you have a JIC fitting.
  
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 |JIC Size|AN Size|Thread \\ Size|Male \\ Thread O.D.|Female \\ Thread O.D| |JIC Size|AN Size|Thread \\ Size|Male \\ Thread O.D.|Female \\ Thread O.D|
 |1/​8"​|-2|5/​16"​-24|5/​16"​|9/​32"​| |1/​8"​|-2|5/​16"​-24|5/​16"​|9/​32"​|