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| ====== Torque Wrenches and Attachments ====== | ====== Torque Wrenches and Attachments ====== | ||
| ====== Selecting the Right Torque Wrench ====== | ====== Selecting the Right Torque Wrench ====== | ||
| + | See also in the Sportsterpedia: | ||
| + | * [[techtalk:ref:tools025#torque_wrench_care_and_usage_related_charts_and_information|Torque Wrench Care and Usage, Related Charts and Information]] | ||
| + | * [[techtalk:ref:tools025#torque_wrench_calibration|Torque Wrench Calibration]] | ||
| * First criteria is to find a torque wrench that is calibrated for the torque value you'll be needing, no brainer. \\ Check the torque specs for what you'll be working on and buy a wrench that works in that range. | * First criteria is to find a torque wrench that is calibrated for the torque value you'll be needing, no brainer. \\ Check the torque specs for what you'll be working on and buy a wrench that works in that range. | ||
| * Torque range and accuracy to cover all fasteners on a Sportster: It's safe to say you'll need at least three torque wrenches minimal. \\ 1/4" drive for inch pound wrench for small bolts. \\ 3/8" drive foot/pound for general bolts. \\ 1/2" drive foot/pound wrench for larger torque applications. \\ 3/4" drive foot/pound wrench is very help on the sprocket shaft. | * Torque range and accuracy to cover all fasteners on a Sportster: It's safe to say you'll need at least three torque wrenches minimal. \\ 1/4" drive for inch pound wrench for small bolts. \\ 3/8" drive foot/pound for general bolts. \\ 1/2" drive foot/pound wrench for larger torque applications. \\ 3/4" drive foot/pound wrench is very help on the sprocket shaft. | ||
| - | Most torque wrenches that measure in ft/lbs don't go down low enough for small fasteners like primary/cam cover bolts etc. ((Folkie of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34140)) \\ | + | Most torque wrenches that measure in ft/lbs don't go down low enough for small fasteners like primary/cam cover bolts etc. ((Folkie of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/20633-low-inch-pound-torque-wrench?t=34140)) \\ |
| And most torque wrenches aren't accurate at the very bottom of their range. \\ | And most torque wrenches aren't accurate at the very bottom of their range. \\ | ||
| The accuracy increases as you get up past from 20% or so of the scale on the wrench. \\ | The accuracy increases as you get up past from 20% or so of the scale on the wrench. \\ | ||
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| You do not just have to have a click type torque wrench. There are beam type torque wrenches out there as well. \\ | You do not just have to have a click type torque wrench. There are beam type torque wrenches out there as well. \\ | ||
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| ====== Types of Torque Wrenches ====== | ====== Types of Torque Wrenches ====== | ||
| ===== Dial Type Wrench ===== | ===== Dial Type Wrench ===== | ||
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| The dial torque wrench is designed for quick calibration. ((https://www.diynetwork.com/how-to/skills-and-know-how/tools/torque-wrenches)) \\ | The dial torque wrench is designed for quick calibration. ((https://www.diynetwork.com/how-to/skills-and-know-how/tools/torque-wrenches)) \\ | ||
| To use the wrench, set the inside dial to zero and the outside dial to the desired torque value. \\ | To use the wrench, set the inside dial to zero and the outside dial to the desired torque value. \\ | ||
| The turn the wrench until the two dials line up. \\ | The turn the wrench until the two dials line up. \\ | ||
| - | | CDI (Snap-On) dial torque wrench. ((photo by wachuko of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1688133)) \\ 0-250 in/lbs | | + | | CDI (Snap-On) dial torque wrench. ((photo by wachuko of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/157717-my-2013-hd-forty-eight-build?t=1688133)) ((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/157717-my-2013-hd-forty-eight-build/page5?postcount=61#post3772906)) \\ 0-250 in/lbs || |
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| ===== Clicker Type Wrench ===== | ===== Clicker Type Wrench ===== | ||
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| ===== Beam Type Wrench ===== | ===== Beam Type Wrench ===== | ||
| - | * The beam type torque wrench has a long pointed bar that bends at a controlled rate with added pressure. \\ The point moves along a graduated gauge to indicate the amount of torque applied. \\ When the gauge reaches the required torque, you stop turning the wrench. | + | * Beam style torque wrenches contain a floating handle, with allows the handle to pivot as you turn the wrench. |
| + | * The bar bends at a controlled rate with added pressure. \\ The point moves along a graduated gauge to indicate the amount of torque applied. \\ When the gauge reaches the required torque, you stop turning the wrench. | ||
| * There are no more moving parts than the beam itself. | * There are no more moving parts than the beam itself. | ||
| * Your eyes alone tell you when you have reached the correct torque value. | * Your eyes alone tell you when you have reached the correct torque value. | ||
| * No waiting for a click that may or may not come from a clicker type wrench. | * No waiting for a click that may or may not come from a clicker type wrench. | ||
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| + | Beam wrenches come in a variety of calibrations. Check the specs before purchasing. \\ | ||
| | 1/4" Drive - Beam Torque Wrench ((photo by Hippysmack))\\ Range: 0-80 in/lbs | 1/4" Drive - Beam Torque Wrench ((photo by rocketmangb of the XLFORUM)) \\ 0-120 in/lbs | | | 1/4" Drive - Beam Torque Wrench ((photo by Hippysmack))\\ Range: 0-80 in/lbs | 1/4" Drive - Beam Torque Wrench ((photo by rocketmangb of the XLFORUM)) \\ 0-120 in/lbs | | ||
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| * But, true tool nuts will want to have them all and still need more. | * But, true tool nuts will want to have them all and still need more. | ||
| * You can also 2 adapters back to back to go from 1/2" to 3/8" and then from 3/8" to a 1/4" drive socket. There are other combinations as well. | * You can also 2 adapters back to back to go from 1/2" to 3/8" and then from 3/8" to a 1/4" drive socket. There are other combinations as well. | ||
| - | * If you plan on using a torque wrench, below are some basic size adapters that you'll probably want on hand. So, go ahead and buy them just to have them. You'll appreciate them all eventually.... and probably want more too. | + | * If you plan on using a torque wrench, below are some basic size adapters that you'll probably want on hand. So, go ahead and buy them just to have them. You'll appreciate them all eventually.... and probably want more too. |
| + | * The use of drive adapters does not change the torque value on the fastener. | ||
| When buying a torque wrench, these are some suggested adapters to have on hand or buy with it: | When buying a torque wrench, these are some suggested adapters to have on hand or buy with it: | ||
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| {{:techtalk:ref:tools:socket_adapters_1_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:tools:socket_adapters_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ref:tools:socket_adapters_1_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:tools:socket_adapters_2_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\ | ||
| ===== Socket Extensions ===== | ===== Socket Extensions ===== | ||
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| + | ===== Drive End Extensions (horizontal with the wrench) ====== | ||
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| + | * These are usually considered methods to extend the length of the wrench (longways from the drive end). \\ It allows you to get into confined spaces that the wrench head (or socket) is too big or awkward for. | ||
| + | * If you use it longways (straight out from the handle, you'll need to re-calculate the torque setting on the wrench. \\ Extending the drive end of the wrench will add extra leverage (torque) on the nut / bolt. | ||
| + | * If you use it at a 90° angle from the drive end, you will not need to recalculate the torque setting. | ||
| + | * Torque is measured at the socket axis. \\ It does not depend on the length of the wrench handle. That only affects the amount of pressure you have to exert to achieve a particular torque. | ||
| + | * The extension is measured from center axis ((The real Leigh of Practical Machinist.com http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/torque-wrench-extention-question-163642/)) to the drive (shaft) axis of the torque wrench. | ||
| + | * The calculation is the same for all types of torque wrenches (whether clicker or beam type, etc). \\ The torque wrench scale tells you how hard you are pulling at the handle. \\ The formula tells you how much torque is actually applied on the fastener. ((Mud of Practical Machinist.com http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/torque-wrench-extention-question-163642/)) | ||
| + | * Or you can [[techtalk:ref:tools025#drive_extensions_horizontal_to_the_wrench|click here for more information on calculating the correct torque]] in the Sportsterpedia. | ||
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| + | | This homemade extension is nice. You will need to recalculate torque if used this way. ||| | ||
| + | |{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque_wrench_extension_1_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque_wrench_extension_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque_wrench_extension_3_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| + | ^ Homemade Wrench Extension for in-frame applications ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2)) ^^^ | ||
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| + | |This setup also extends the drive end of the wrench and you'll have to calculate for the correct torque. \\ 1/2 torque wrench (L) inside a pull handle wrench (minus the handle). 3/4" drive torque wrench (R) with 1/2" adapter and a socket to fit the \\ square shank of the 1/2" wrench. You can torque to about 140 foot pounds with this contraption but you have to keep straight alignment with the \\ 2 wrenches or actual torque on the nut will change. This is Not a proper tool setup but it will work with lower torque values. ((Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2))|| | ||
| + | |{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_1_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2))|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} | | ||
| + | ^ This application is used to adapt a 1/2" drive socket for use with a 3/4" drive torque wrench. Really! ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2)) ^^ | ||
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| + | | Here is another way to make a drive end extension. This also needs to be calculated before using. ||| | ||
| + | |{{:techtalk:ref:tools:dial_type_torque_wrench_and_extension_1_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:tools:dial_type_torque_wrench_and_extension_2_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:tools:dial_type_torque_wrench_and_extension_3_by_the_doctor71.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| + | ^ Dial type torque wrench with box end wrench extension. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074329)) ||| | ||
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| ===== Swivels (or universal joint) ===== | ===== Swivels (or universal joint) ===== | ||
| A swivel (or universal joint) is a great little tool for getting into areas where a straight run at a nut / bolt is hindered by obstacles near it (whether by the frame, wheels etc.). | A swivel (or universal joint) is a great little tool for getting into areas where a straight run at a nut / bolt is hindered by obstacles near it (whether by the frame, wheels etc.). | ||
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| These can warp / break or strip the bolt corners especially when used for high torque applications. \\ | These can warp / break or strip the bolt corners especially when used for high torque applications. \\ | ||
| - | | Flare nut crows foot. \\ Tight corners for non-slip function. ((photo by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586)) | Cheap crows foot. \\ Rounded corners can slip. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | | + | Any force that is applied that isn’t at a 90° angle will change the applied torque to the fastener. ((https://agradetools.com/torque-wrench-myth-busted/)) \\ |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:tools:crows_foot_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:tools:crows_foot_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | When you put a crows foot on a torque wrench and use it long-ways, the torque applied to the fastener increases. \\ |
| + | If you turn the crows foot at a 90° angle, there is no increase in torque to the fastener from the preset scale. \\ | ||
| + | [[techtalk:ref:tools025#drive_extensions_horizontal_to_the_wrench|Click here for more information on calculating the correct torque]] if not using a crows foot at 90° in the Sportsterpedia. | ||
| - | + | | Flare nut crows foot. \\ Tight corners for non-slip function. ((photo by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586)) | Cheap crows foot. \\ Rounded corners can slip. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Using a crows foot on a torque wrench ((photo by Hippysmack)) | | |
| - | + | |{{:techtalk:ref:tools:crows_foot_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:tools:crows_foot_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:tools:torque_with_a_crows_foot_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |
| - | ======= Torque Wrench Extensions (horizontal with the wrench) ======= | + | |
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| - | * These are usually considered methods to extend the length of the wrench (in a linear plane) from the drive center to get into confined spaces that the wrench head (or socket) is too big or awkward for. However, for whatever or how you are extending the end of the torque wrench, you'll need to re-calculate the torque setting on the wrench. Extending the end of the wrench (whether with a crows foot, dog bone or other) will add extra leverage (torque) on the nut / bolt so you'll have to lower the setting on the wrench to compensate. | + | |
| - | * Torque is measured at the socket axis. It does not depend on the length of the wrench handle. That only affects the amount of pressure you have to exert to achieve a particular torque. | + | |
| - | * The extension is measured from center axis ((The real Leigh of Practical Machinist.com http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/torque-wrench-extention-question-163642/)) to the drive (shaft) axis of the torque wrench. | + | |
| - | * The calculation is the same for all types of torque wrenches (whether clicker or beam type). The torque wrench tells you how hard you are pulling at the handle when you back out the ft/lbs, the formula tells you how much torque is on the fastener when you make the wrench show that many ft/lbs. ((Mud of Practical Machinist.com http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/torque-wrench-extention-question-163642/)) | + | |
| - | * **You can search online calculators** to find the value to set your torque wrench to achieve actual torque at the fastener. | + | |
| - | * **Or, this formula ((https://www.norbar.com/en-gb/Home/Torque-Wrench-Extension-Calculator)) will allow you to achieve (actual) torque on your fastener**. M1 = M2 x L1 / L2 \\ Where: | + | |
| - | * M1 is the torque setting of the wrench | + | |
| - | * M2 is the actual torque applied to the nut | + | |
| - | * L1 is the normal length of the wrench (square drive shank center point to pull handle center point). | + | |
| - | * L2 is the extended length of the wrench (square drive shank center point on wrench to center point of bolt / nut). | + | |
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| - | |{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque_wrench_extension_1_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque_wrench_extension_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque_wrench_extension_3_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| - | ^ Homemade Wrench Extension for in-frame applications ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2)) ^^^ | ||
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| - | |1/2 torque wrench (L) inside a pull handle wrench (minus the handle). 3/4" drive torque wrench (R) with 1/2" adapter and a socket to fit the \\ square shank of the 1/2" wrench. You can torque to about 140 foot pounds with this contraption but you have to keep straight alignment with the \\ 2 wrenches or actual torque on the nut will change. This is Not a proper tool setup but it will work with lower torque values. ((Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2))|| | ||
| - | |{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_1_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2))|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} | | ||
| - | ^ This application is used to adapt a 1/2" drive socket for use with a 3/4" drive torque wrench. Really! ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2)) ^^ | ||
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| - | ^ Dial type torque wrench with box end wrench extension. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074329)) ||| | ||
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