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| ====== Torque Wrenches and Attachments ====== | ====== Torque Wrenches and Attachments ====== | ||
| ====== Selecting the Right Torque Wrench ====== | ====== Selecting the Right Torque Wrench ====== | ||
| + | See also in the Sportsterpedia: | ||
| + | * [[techtalk:ref:tools025#torque_wrench_care_and_usage_related_charts_and_information|Torque Wrench Care and Usage, Related Charts and Information]] | ||
| + | * [[techtalk:ref:tools025#torque_wrench_calibration|Torque Wrench Calibration]] | ||
| * First criteria is to find a torque wrench that is calibrated for the torque value you'll be needing, no brainer. \\ Check the torque specs for what you'll be working on and buy a wrench that works in that range. | * First criteria is to find a torque wrench that is calibrated for the torque value you'll be needing, no brainer. \\ Check the torque specs for what you'll be working on and buy a wrench that works in that range. | ||
| * Torque range and accuracy to cover all fasteners on a Sportster: It's safe to say you'll need at least three torque wrenches minimal. \\ 1/4" drive for inch pound wrench for small bolts. \\ 3/8" drive foot/pound for general bolts. \\ 1/2" drive foot/pound wrench for larger torque applications. \\ 3/4" drive foot/pound wrench is very help on the sprocket shaft. | * Torque range and accuracy to cover all fasteners on a Sportster: It's safe to say you'll need at least three torque wrenches minimal. \\ 1/4" drive for inch pound wrench for small bolts. \\ 3/8" drive foot/pound for general bolts. \\ 1/2" drive foot/pound wrench for larger torque applications. \\ 3/4" drive foot/pound wrench is very help on the sprocket shaft. | ||
| - | Most torque wrenches that measure in ft/lbs don't go down low enough for small fasteners like primary/cam cover bolts etc. ((Folkie of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34140)) \\ | + | Most torque wrenches that measure in ft/lbs don't go down low enough for small fasteners like primary/cam cover bolts etc. ((Folkie of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/20633-low-inch-pound-torque-wrench?t=34140)) \\ |
| And most torque wrenches aren't accurate at the very bottom of their range. \\ | And most torque wrenches aren't accurate at the very bottom of their range. \\ | ||
| The accuracy increases as you get up past from 20% or so of the scale on the wrench. \\ | The accuracy increases as you get up past from 20% or so of the scale on the wrench. \\ | ||
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| You do not just have to have a click type torque wrench. There are beam type torque wrenches out there as well. \\ | You do not just have to have a click type torque wrench. There are beam type torque wrenches out there as well. \\ | ||
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| ====== Types of Torque Wrenches ====== | ====== Types of Torque Wrenches ====== | ||
| ===== Dial Type Wrench ===== | ===== Dial Type Wrench ===== | ||
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| The dial torque wrench is designed for quick calibration. ((https://www.diynetwork.com/how-to/skills-and-know-how/tools/torque-wrenches)) \\ | The dial torque wrench is designed for quick calibration. ((https://www.diynetwork.com/how-to/skills-and-know-how/tools/torque-wrenches)) \\ | ||
| To use the wrench, set the inside dial to zero and the outside dial to the desired torque value. \\ | To use the wrench, set the inside dial to zero and the outside dial to the desired torque value. \\ | ||
| The turn the wrench until the two dials line up. \\ | The turn the wrench until the two dials line up. \\ | ||
| - | | CDI (Snap-On) dial torque wrench. ((photo by wachuko of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1688133)) \\ 0-250 in/lbs | | + | | CDI (Snap-On) dial torque wrench. ((photo by wachuko of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/157717-my-2013-hd-forty-eight-build?t=1688133)) ((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/157717-my-2013-hd-forty-eight-build/page5?postcount=61#post3772906)) \\ 0-250 in/lbs || |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:tools:dial_type_torque_wrench_by_wachuko.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | |{{:techtalk:ref:tools:dial_type_torque_wrench_by_wachuko.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:tools:dial_torque_wrench_by_wachuko.png?direct&200|}}| |
| ===== Clicker Type Wrench ===== | ===== Clicker Type Wrench ===== | ||
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| * As its name suggests, the clicking torque wrench clicks when the desired torque is reached. \\ Before turning the wrench, you set the handle to a specific torque. \\ When a clicker wrench is pulled to the point of the torque setting, the lever inside the wrench rolls over a cam and hits the inside of the wrench handle wall. \\ This effect makes the “click” sound, and tells the operator that they have reached the desired torque value. | * As its name suggests, the clicking torque wrench clicks when the desired torque is reached. \\ Before turning the wrench, you set the handle to a specific torque. \\ When a clicker wrench is pulled to the point of the torque setting, the lever inside the wrench rolls over a cam and hits the inside of the wrench handle wall. \\ This effect makes the “click” sound, and tells the operator that they have reached the desired torque value. | ||
| * The typical click-type torque wrench comes with a manual adjustable setting on the handle and typically have a ratchet head just like a socket wrench. | * The typical click-type torque wrench comes with a manual adjustable setting on the handle and typically have a ratchet head just like a socket wrench. | ||
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| {{:techtalk:ref:tools:clicker_type_torque_wrenches_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ref:tools:clicker_type_torque_wrenches_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\ | ||
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| ===== Beam Type Wrench ===== | ===== Beam Type Wrench ===== | ||
| - | + | * Beam style torque wrenches contain a floating handle, with allows the handle to pivot as you turn the wrench. | |
| - | * The beam type torque wrench has a long pointed bar that bends at a controlled rate with added pressure. \\ The point moves along a graduated gauge to indicate the amount of torque applied. \\ When the gauge reaches the required torque, you stop turning the wrench. | + | * The bar bends at a controlled rate with added pressure. \\ The point moves along a graduated gauge to indicate the amount of torque applied. \\ When the gauge reaches the required torque, you stop turning the wrench. |
| * There are no more moving parts than the beam itself. | * There are no more moving parts than the beam itself. | ||
| * Your eyes alone tell you when you have reached the correct torque value. | * Your eyes alone tell you when you have reached the correct torque value. | ||
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| |{{techtalk:ref:tools:ft-lb_beam_torque_wrench_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{techtalk:ref:tools:ft-lb_beam_torque_wrench_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| - | | 3/4" Drive - Beam Torque Wrench ((photos by dezzertrat of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1860581&page=2)) \\ Range: 0-300 ft/lbs || | + | | 3/4" Drive - Beam Torque Wrench ((photos by dezzertrat of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/173328-77-xlt-teardown-and-rebuild/page2?t=1860581&page=2)) \\ Range: 0-300 ft/lbs || |
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| ===== Digital (electronic) Type Wrench ===== | ===== Digital (electronic) Type Wrench ===== | ||
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| * An electronic torque wrench displays a torque value on a digital screen. ((https://www.hextechnology.com/articles/clicker-wrench-guide/)) \\ | * An electronic torque wrench displays a torque value on a digital screen. ((https://www.hextechnology.com/articles/clicker-wrench-guide/)) \\ | ||
| * Electronic (indicating) torque wrenches, have a strain gauge attached to the torsion rod. | * Electronic (indicating) torque wrenches, have a strain gauge attached to the torsion rod. | ||
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| ===== Torque Screwdrivers ===== | ===== Torque Screwdrivers ===== | ||
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| * For very small torques, it is common to use a torque screwdriver rather than a torque wrench. | * For very small torques, it is common to use a torque screwdriver rather than a torque wrench. | ||
| ====== What's the Best Type Torque Wrench to Use on a Sportster? ====== | ====== What's the Best Type Torque Wrench to Use on a Sportster? ====== | ||
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| That's a loaded question. The best answer is whichever one works. \\ | That's a loaded question. The best answer is whichever one works. \\ | ||
| * Beam, Dial or even Digital torque wrenches are more consistent in their designed use than Clicker type torque wrenches. | * Beam, Dial or even Digital torque wrenches are more consistent in their designed use than Clicker type torque wrenches. | ||
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| ===== Drive Adapters ===== | ===== Drive Adapters ===== | ||
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| * Torque wrenches come with a variety of drive point sizes. Of course, so do sockets. Unless you have a full shop of tools, it can be cost effective to use adapters to give you the flexibility in using the same sockets with different drive wrenches. | * Torque wrenches come with a variety of drive point sizes. Of course, so do sockets. Unless you have a full shop of tools, it can be cost effective to use adapters to give you the flexibility in using the same sockets with different drive wrenches. | ||
| * It's also important at times to be able to get to certain spots with smaller O.D. wrenches with the help from adapters as a (1/4" drive) 1/2" socket will probably be a smaller outside diameter than 3/8" or 1/2" drive in the same bolt size. | * It's also important at times to be able to get to certain spots with smaller O.D. wrenches with the help from adapters as a (1/4" drive) 1/2" socket will probably be a smaller outside diameter than 3/8" or 1/2" drive in the same bolt size. | ||
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| * But, true tool nuts will want to have them all and still need more. | * But, true tool nuts will want to have them all and still need more. | ||
| * You can also 2 adapters back to back to go from 1/2" to 3/8" and then from 3/8" to a 1/4" drive socket. There are other combinations as well. | * You can also 2 adapters back to back to go from 1/2" to 3/8" and then from 3/8" to a 1/4" drive socket. There are other combinations as well. | ||
| - | * If you plan on using a torque wrench, below are some basic size adapters that you'll probably want on hand. So, go ahead and buy them just to have them. You'll appreciate them all eventually.... and probably want more too. | + | * If you plan on using a torque wrench, below are some basic size adapters that you'll probably want on hand. So, go ahead and buy them just to have them. You'll appreciate them all eventually.... and probably want more too. |
| + | * The use of drive adapters does not change the torque value on the fastener. | ||
| When buying a torque wrench, these are some suggested adapters to have on hand or buy with it: | When buying a torque wrench, these are some suggested adapters to have on hand or buy with it: | ||
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| | This homemade extension is nice. You will need to recalculate torque if used this way. ||| | | This homemade extension is nice. You will need to recalculate torque if used this way. ||| | ||
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| - | ^ Homemade Wrench Extension for in-frame applications ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2)) ^^^ | + | ^ Homemade Wrench Extension for in-frame applications ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools/page2?t=395586&page=2)) ^^^ |
| - | |This setup also extends the drive end of the wrench and you'll have to calculate for the correct torque. \\ 1/2 torque wrench (L) inside a pull handle wrench (minus the handle). 3/4" drive torque wrench (R) with 1/2" adapter and a socket to fit the \\ square shank of the 1/2" wrench. You can torque to about 140 foot pounds with this contraption but you have to keep straight alignment with the \\ 2 wrenches or actual torque on the nut will change. This is Not a proper tool setup but it will work with lower torque values. ((Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2))|| | + | |This setup also extends the drive end of the wrench and you'll have to calculate for the correct torque. \\ 1/2 torque wrench (L) inside a pull handle wrench (minus the handle). 3/4" drive torque wrench (R) with 1/2" adapter and a socket to fit the \\ square shank of the 1/2" wrench. You can torque to about 140 foot pounds with this contraption but you have to keep straight alignment with the \\ 2 wrenches or actual torque on the nut will change. This is Not a proper tool setup but it will work with lower torque values. ((Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools/page2?t=395586&page=2))|| |
| - | |{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_1_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2))|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} | | + | |{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_1_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools/page2?t=395586&page=2))|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} | |
| - | ^ This application is used to adapt a 1/2" drive socket for use with a 3/4" drive torque wrench. Really! ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2)) ^^ | + | ^ This application is used to adapt a 1/2" drive socket for use with a 3/4" drive torque wrench. Really! ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools/page2?t=395586&page=2)) ^^ |
| | Here is another way to make a drive end extension. This also needs to be calculated before using. ||| | | Here is another way to make a drive end extension. This also needs to be calculated before using. ||| | ||
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| - | ^ Dial type torque wrench with box end wrench extension. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074329)) ||| | + | ^ Dial type torque wrench with box end wrench extension. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197656-cylinder-base-nut-question?t=2074329)) ||| |
| ===== Swivels (or universal joint) ===== | ===== Swivels (or universal joint) ===== | ||
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| {{techtalk:ref:tools:swivels_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) | {{techtalk:ref:tools:swivels_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) | ||
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| ===== Crows Foot ===== | ===== Crows Foot ===== | ||
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| These can warp / break or strip the bolt corners especially when used for high torque applications. \\ | These can warp / break or strip the bolt corners especially when used for high torque applications. \\ | ||
| - | | Flare nut crows foot. \\ Tight corners for non-slip function. ((photo by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586)) | Cheap crows foot. \\ Rounded corners can slip. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | | + | Any force that is applied that isn’t at a 90° angle will change the applied torque to the fastener. ((https://agradetools.com/torque-wrench-myth-busted/)) \\ |
| - | |{{:techtalk:ref:tools:crows_foot_by_hopper.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:tools:crows_foot_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}| | + | When you put a crows foot on a torque wrench and use it long-ways, the torque applied to the fastener increases. \\ |
| + | If you turn the crows foot at a 90° angle, there is no increase in torque to the fastener from the preset scale. \\ | ||
| + | [[techtalk:ref:tools025#drive_extensions_horizontal_to_the_wrench|Click here for more information on calculating the correct torque]] if not using a crows foot at 90° in the Sportsterpedia. | ||
| + | | Flare nut crows foot. \\ Tight corners for non-slip function. ((photo by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools?t=395586)) | Cheap crows foot. \\ Rounded corners can slip. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Using a crows foot on a torque wrench ((photo by Hippysmack)) | | ||
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